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My thinking is because the airpower is only compatible with the series 3 and not older models, it may have a special chip built in designed to be used with the airpower, which could mean it has a slightly longer range which would accomodate the watch being used slightly raised off the pad or on it's side. They must have thought of this considering so many people use the watch as an alarm clock, and it has this built in to the software.

Here's hoping anyway, especially with it possibly being £150 it should be able to be used with the watcfh and any bands.
Air power will still allow the watch to be viewed time wise in portrait
 
I have a Moto 360 Sport that recently died (battery) and I was considering another one, or going for an Apple watch. This report has me now leaning toward just waiting for series 4. I always preferred a round face, like the Moto 360 Sport has, but I doubt the series 4 goes round, but I'm interested to see what a "redesign" means. It could just mean the larger screen, but maybe it'll be less square but not full circle either.

Also hoping for an always-on screen option. I loved this about the Moto 360 Sport, and really hope Apple gives the option to users, especially since it's OLED. Users should be able to do what they want, minimal always on time/date with basic color option to match band if they want. Always-on time/date with user disabled rise to wake would be a good battery compromise in my opinion.

In my iPhone I've gone through the watch faces to see what the options are for the Apple watch, and I don't really love any of them. There seems to be nothing with just a large digital clock in the center, it's always top right it seems, you can't put it center. Hopefully a watch face store is introduced with series 4 as well.

My ideal watch face for an always-on screen would be what's basically the current night stand screen. Large digital clock with date. If it was always green like now I could handle that, but a color option would be nice. Apple could also allow small numbers for temp possible, or battery level, but I don't think that's necessary. For me, 95% of the time a quick glance is for time, and 5% is for the date.

Ideal always-on screen:
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If forced to be grey:
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Current Moto 360 Sport always-on screen:
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Phil Schiller's world revolves around customers just like you. Almost as though he pulls a lever somewhere to make people want an upgrade... Nah, this is Apple and they would never do anything like that.

Actually he would have wanted me to not only buy the serious 0, but also the 1,2 and 3. So I may not be at the top of his favorite list.
 
Albeit with third-party bands, they do resemble the Apple Watch OEM bands, but they are not nearly the quality that Apple bands are. It’s just a matter of what the consumer wants to spend. You get what you pay for.

I don't know. I have the blue sport strap that the watch came with and a red one that I got on Amazon for £8 and aside from the colour, I wouldn't know which was which.
[doublepost=1522252075][/doublepost]I'm torn, I've been waiting to upgrade my Series 0 (or is it Series 1) but because of an admin cockup at the Apple Store recently I got a brand new Series 0 for free. So now I feel like I should give this one a few years like I did the last.
 
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I have a Series 1 but would love it to be thinner, smaller bezels and of course battery life improvements would be appreciated! If that happens, I would opt for an AW4, rather than a lower priced "last year" model like I did with the AW1.
Sorry but I'm going to have to use your post so I can make a point.

Apple is not going to make a watch to replace your phone. They are not. Ever. Not because they can't. Because I am sure that they can, but because they are not. Why? Almost all of the money that they make comes from selling you a phone. They are never going to give up the opportunity to sell you both a phone and a watch. Never. So don't buy the watch if you want. You'll still make Apple happy,because you will buy that phone.

Granted, I could see the watch replacing the phone when the iWear or Glasses of whatever name become the predominant form of mobile computing... The watch would hold all the components and the glasses would just be a wireless AR "screen".
 
I don't know. I have the blue sport strap that the watch came with and a red one that I got on Amazon for £8 and aside from the colour, I wouldn't know which was which.

My point was third party bands and Apple bands may resemble each other almost identically, but the quality of material and craftsmanship is not nearly the same, which Apple’s are superior.
 
Sorry but I'm going to have to use your post so I can make a point.

Apple is not going to make a watch to replace your phone. They are not. Ever. Not because they can't. Because I am sure that they can, but because they are not. Why? Almost all of the money that they make comes from selling you a phone. They are never going to give up the opportunity to sell you both a phone and a watch. Never. So don't buy the watch if you want. You'll still make Apple happy,because you will buy that phone.

That leads me to my last point, because they are about the other two. Apple is not going to do what YOU want. They are not. They are going to do what they think is best. And one important consideration of that is, how do we make more money. They do have other thoughts and being Apple, function and form are both parts of that. But this company got it's start by being different. How? By doing what THEY think is right, not what customers think. That was Steve's magic. He could see what you really wanted before you could even see it. Not what you thought you wanted, but what you really did. He did not ask you for input. Because you did not know. That is part of Apple, even now that Steve is not with us. So they are not going to do what you want. They are going to do what they believe is best.
Let’s meet up in 2 years here and see if you are right. Care to wager on your confidence? As things get smaller darn tootin they are going to dick tracy this thing. Like a poster above noted, there will be options other than a phone: glasses, ipads, laptops, etc. some people just don’t want a phone, especially all the time. I am one of those people.
 
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The watch was never intended for reading lots of data. Jony Ive even said the watch was designed for quick glances, and anything more one should pull out their phone. Indeed the watch is the absolute worst medium for extended viewing of anything, especially data.

And yet Apple's team looked at prototypes, and picked the one that wasn't round. Why? Because it would've been a bad idea. Rather than try to shoehorn a weird mediocre circular UI onto a weird circular screen, they went with Occam's razor and just took a regular goddamn screen and a regular goddamn UI instead.

The only reason we don't have round TVs is because the original film medium was square. But practically speaking, a round TV would actually solve a lot of problems created by mobile phones and the ever increasing vertical movies being shot on them. When a newscast switches to a vertical display, rather than reduce the image significantly with extra wide pillar bars, the image would just rotate to a full screen version on a round TV. A round TV could show any aspect ratio, including IMAX with very little picture loss, and so forth.

A wide aspect ratio (which most certainly is not round, nor square) still makes a lot of sense for motion pictures, because of the way our eyes are arranged. If we were of the cyclops species, a round TV might make sense. We're not, so it does not.

Portrait-oriented videos existing has little bearing here because those are unlikely to be watched much on a TV, especially at significant length.

That's why there are round picture frames,

Round picture frames exist because… have you looked at the upper body of a human being lately?

The round watch is not going away, just because it does more than tell time now

The traditional dumbwatch is in fact going away, and for a smartwatch, round isn't a lesser form factor. That's why Apple didn't pick it.
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Sorry but I'm going to have to use your post so I can make a point.

Apple is not going to make a watch to replace your phone. They are not. Ever. Not because they can't. Because I am sure that they can, but because they are not. Why? Almost all of the money that they make comes from selling you a phone. They are never going to give up the opportunity to sell you both a phone and a watch. Never. So don't buy the watch if you want. You'll still make Apple happy,because you will buy that phone.

At one point, much of their money came from selling you a Mac. At a later point, iPhone revenues started taking off. At a yet later point, neither a Mac nor a Windows PC were necessary any more to set up an iPhone. And yet later, hooking up an iPhone with a computer at all has become quite an atypical scenario.

The Watch may eventually take a similar road.
 
AW3 battery life is good in that you can sleep with it one night and use apps to track it, but you'll need to re-charge when sitting down at some point the next day. Now if you take a few call(s) and do heavy things that day, you might wake up to it nearly dead. I think the sweet spot is if we can get to nearer to 2 days.

I'd be happy to upgrade if we get substantial improvement on battery and form factor with LTE. It's still a pretty watch though but getting more screen could be compelling. Certainly if you have AW0 or 1 that might be the springboard.
 
I've been waiting for a larger display and now if this is true, I will be able to buy one.
The current mens watch is just too small for me.
 
Best Buy is having a sale $30 off Apple Watch, series 3. A lot of people who either want to upgrade or are new buyers will probably wait for the Series 4. Take $150 off and they will get some movement.
 
Best Buy is having a sale $30 off Apple Watch, series 3. A lot of people who either want to upgrade or are new buyers will probably wait for the Series 4. Take $150 off and they will get some movement.

We don't know what is going to happen. Like they may just keep Series 3 as the new introduction model, and discontinue Series 1. At that time it would drop in-price.
 
I have read this multiple times and I still have no idea what you mean.

There is no need for the bands to flare out to almost meet the 38mm case size. Tons of the bands are also clunky - especially on women. Some of the loops are better but still look to much like a wristband.

They need to give more delicate options. It looks to much like a gadget watch made in Taiwan.
 
IMO, if they are goin to improve battery life, it needs to last 2 days. If you have to charge part way thru the 2nd day, what’s the point?

Also, charging your phone every day has become routine, just as it is for current watch owners. I wonder if going to every other day or longer will mess people up.
 
Looking forward to it, my S2 is too slow. I would assume they aren't making the watch larger, simply cutting down the bezels to make the screen larger in the same package. Maybe the micro-LED technology will allow them to do it. I'd love to see thinner, and I really hope they keep the ingenious band design. Of course better battery life is always on the wishlist, yeah I know it clashes with my wish for a thinner phone.
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IMO, if they are goin to improve battery life, it needs to last 2 days. If you have to charge part way thru the 2nd day, what’s the point?

Also, charging your phone every day has become routine, just as it is for current watch owners. I wonder if going to every other day or longer will mess people up.

2 days including sleep tracking and workouts. My very expensive solution is to buy 2 AW's so I can just switch between them. I can't get a full day if I workout that morning. Sleep tracking isn't so bad since the screen is off, but it still takes some juice.
 
My point was third party bands and Apple bands may resemble each other almost identically, but the quality of material and craftsmanship is not nearly the same, which Apple’s are superior.
Sure they are superior at exorbitant prices. Look, I have the $1000 iPhone X. It is overpriced but it's the best iPhone there is IMHO. I can't find an iPhone X clone for a 1/4 of the price but I can certainly find watchbands that are of decent quality for far less than Apple's offerings. In my opinion, the watchbands are ridiculously overpriced.
 
IMO, if they are goin to improve battery life, it needs to last 2 days. If you have to charge part way thru the 2nd day, what’s the point?

Also, charging your phone every day has become routine, just as it is for current watch owners. I wonder if going to every other day or longer will mess people up.
I think I’m a gadget hore. Every night I plug in my ipad, watch, cell, and pencil. I do it without thinking.
 
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