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It sounds like Apple's phone and watch processors didn't improve at all this year. Maybe the silicone team is spending all its time on the M1X, maybe it's just covid-related slowdowns, or maybe they're starting to hit a wall.
Maybe I misheard the presentation, but there was a pretty significant bump on the iPhone chip...and even the watch chip was improved...one component, the CPU stayed the same, but the rest was updated...similar to S4>S5, same CPU but added gyroscope and some other features...it does get incremental at some point.

from the front page Macrumors article... The ‌iPhone 13 Pro‌, or iPhone14,2, earned a Metal score of 14216, a 55 percent increase compared to the 9123 Metal score earned by the ‌iPhone 12 Pro‌.
 
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Thanks, that's what I figured. Have you used watchOS 8 yet? Does that have any Siri improvements?
it's funny...I went from S3 to S5 and there was a pretty noticeable improvement with Siri...there are times when it lags, but I don't find it unusable. depends on what else is going on at that moment
 
Same processor as last year? Enough said. Keeping my 5 = plenty fast. Hopefully blood pressure is integrated next year.
 
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I am glad that I can still stay on my S6 for another year without any feelings of FOMO.
Have you been upgrading every year? Does anyone do that? I’ve had a Series 2 and an SE so far.

If you’re selling them to upgrade I guess that makes sense. Otherwise, it’s kind of a waste of money isn’t it? The changes year over year aren’t that big.
 
As a Series 4 owner:

The larger display has me very interested, but...

All I really want to know is how fast it is with responding to Siri commands. Aside from notifications and all the other passive features of Apple Watches, the main engagement I use (or try to use) is Siri for things like Homekit and other controls. But Siri on my series 4 is EXTREMELY slow. So slow that it is almost never worth it. So slow that 100% of the time it would be faster to pull out my phone and use Siri.

Given that this is 3 generations newer, I am hopeful that something has actually improved with that time.
I have the series 2 and feel the same way about how incredibly slow it is. The series 7 will not be any faster than the series 6, so at least we can see much how much faster the series 6 is right now. I want a faster processor and a bigger battery, but I decided to skip the 6 and wait the for the 7. Now that it appears the 7 is the same processor and likely the same battery as the 6, I guess I’m waiting for the 8 =/
 
Guess this year’s watch is more a ”tick”: Better charging, totally different way of connecting stuff internally, slightly bigger screen … Can’t risk doing all that _and_ introduce new sensors and whatnot. Chances are that next year’ll be a “tock“, building on the technological foundation of this year’s changes.

S5 also brought the AOD and little else, but it was the foundation the S6 could rely upon.
I feel like I had previously heard that faster charging degrades the battery faster. Is that true? If so, it seems like slower charging would be preferred for those who intend to keep the watch a few years.
 
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Is anyone else a little tired of the minor iterations on the Apple devices and the idea that the market can be milked on these minor adjustments? The larger display aside.. the Apple Watch's main utility seems to come from health/monitoring tech and this "major overhaul" adds no new sensor or collection data. I upgraded from the 4 to the 6 because of the increased functionality, but I won't be upgrading again until Apple can justify the $400-$500 price tag it wants to slap on these devices.
Kinda, especially that they’re still selling the series 3. It’s like when they kept selling the iPad 2 many years later and people were asking why they didn’t start selling the iPad 3 or 4 as the discount model and Apple’s reply was basically “people are still buying it so why would we sell a better device for the same discounted price?”
 
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I think we need to see the series 7 whilst ignoring the rumours of what it maybe could have been.

My series 4 had an ECG. Not sure how often anyone uses that normally but for me it was when it first launched then never again. I would see the same usage with any other health feature.

Ive sold my S4 in anticipation of the S7 and overall I’m still happy I did. The new screen is an improvement and I’ll get the always on feature that came with the S5.

I’m disappointed the processor isn’t a further step up (from S6) but they did the same in the past as the S4 and S5 used the same CPU.

Oh and I’m not sure I like the blue tint that the replacement for the space Grey has!
I wasn’t expecting glucose monitoring this year, but if they’re really able to implement that, it’ll be HUGE for diabetics. That will/would definitely be a game charger. Used on a daily basis by millions. Far more than ECG.
 
Have you been upgrading every year? Does anyone do that? I’ve had a Series 2 and an SE so far.

If you’re selling them to upgrade I guess that makes sense. Otherwise, it’s kind of a waste of money isn’t it? The changes year over year aren’t that big.
Series 6 is my 1st Apple Watch.
 
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How much faster is this than S3?

Siri is painfully slow on my S3, but if I'm reading this right, S6/S7 are only 20% faster than S4/S5/SE, which doesn't sound like much difference (only a 20% gain in 3 generations?). So then the key question is, what's the difference from S3 to S4? (This is confusing!)
 
Is anyone else a little tired of the minor iterations on the Apple devices and the idea that the market can be milked on these minor adjustments? The larger display aside.. the Apple Watch's main utility seems to come from health/monitoring tech and this "major overhaul" adds no new sensor or collection data. I upgraded from the 4 to the 6 because of the increased functionality, but I won't be upgrading again until Apple can justify the $400-$500 price tag it wants to slap on these devices.
So, because Apple prioritized a bigger, reportedly more durable screen and faster charging over sensor upgrades (in one year) this is a "minor iteration"?

Anyone in an industry that builds things knows that you release, then refine. The watch is here. You bought it because its features were worth it to you at the time (maybe?)

Apple is, just like every other manufacturer out there, now refining and adding meaningful features to each of their products, but they do this in a YEARLY cycle with the highest of expectations.

It's simply unrealistic to expect the allocation of finite resources to all possible features on a device. Believe me, these products have a roadmap, and Apple plays a balancing game of which features go in now or have to wait for the next upgrade cycle. They have to pivot quickly to implement new technologies available (like 5G, etc) without breaking the current functionality and (more impressively) integration within its ecosystem.

So the cool thing is that your watch will retain its usefulness with software support that is also unrivaled in the industry, so it'll not only remain as useful as when you bought it, but likely even more so via OS updates/upgrades.

I get the disappointment (I waited TEN YEARS for the iPad to be what it is), but credit must be given where it's due.

In my twenty years observing Apple releases, it blows my mind what they do in ONE year alone (which again doesn't take one year to do, it just looks that way to us consumers).
 
Is there blood pressure measuring now, like in Samsungs Galaxy watch 4 ?
A watch cannot accurately measure blood pressure. Period.
As a physician I advice my patients to buy a blood pressure machine with a cuff that they can apply around their arm. Gadgets that claim to measure blood pressure at the wrist are also often inaccurate.
 
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How much faster is this than S3?

Siri is painfully slow on my S3, but if I'm reading this right, S6/S7 are only 20% faster than S4/S5/SE, which doesn't sound like much difference (only a 20% gain in 3 generations?). So then the key question is, what's the difference from S3 to S4? (This is confusing!)
S3 to S4 was a 2x (200%) jump in processing power. Also went from a 32-bit to 64-bit processor. Along with a bigger display and ECG, it was kind of the last “big” update to the Watch.

 
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If you don’t have a USB C charger, which those iPhone and Apple Watch only owners may not, then it’s an added expense now. Maybe cheap or expensive but you still not need to buy a USB C charger and have two chargers and cables. They really should have made the iPhone USB C also.
I'd plug them into the Mac or PC with USB-C.
 
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