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A watch cannot accurately measure blood pressure. Period.
As a physician I advice my patients to buy a blood pressure machine with a cuff that they can apply around their arm. Gadgets that claim to measure blood pressure at the wrist are also often inaccurate.
It must be a lot of fun to run around with that kind of blood pressure machine :)

Here is a tip for your important work "hard blood pressure cosmetics can lead to cerebral infarctions in the early morning".
 
To me, this looks like it’s just as much an effort to keep sales high for the AW SE for another year as anything else -AW SE just launched last year and Apple would kill a ton of sales if AW 7 had been a huge upgrade compared to AW 6.

AW SE is like a downgraded AW 5-6 which works to exaggerate the value of the new AW 7.

Apple must be making a killing off those SEs since they almost have none of the expensive tech of the flagships but still retail for $279.

The fact that the S3 also didn’t drop in price this year from its $199 again highlights how hard Apple is still pushing the SE.

Apple always does this to some extent. Like in the iPhone 13 lineup the 12 gets to stay but the 12 Pros are cut.

In the end, it’s all about getting you to upgrade.
 
I still have my first Watch, Series 4, but thinking since a while about getting the next one because the missing always-on-display annoys me. Also new health features would be nice.
Now, I guess I will buy the Series 7 because of the always-on-display and the bigger screen.
 
It must be a lot of fun to run around with that kind of blood pressure machine :)

Here is a tip for your important work "hard blood pressure cosmetics can lead to cerebral infarctions in the early morning".
To be meaningful, blood pressure levels should be measured at a state of rest. Ambulatory (while active) blood pressure monitoring is only useful if certain defined diagnoses are suspected.
 
Why not? On screen keyboard. Compass. Etc… I have the S4 and want to upgrade. But I can’t justify the expense on a limited budget.
I would never use the keyboard. I’ll use quick reply’s or take out my phone.
 
I think they wanted to make the flat edged Apple Watch but ran into production problems and had to resort to using their backup plan. That’s probably also why the AW7 won’t be available this month but „later this fall“.
I will wait for AW8.
 
Kinda surprised at the comments in here. Yes, the screen is the only difference, but for many people the screen is the watch's main feature. What have they added in the past few years that was more worthy of an upgrade?
But the previous bump in screen size meant really more stuff on the screen, so increased usability. Besides a keyboard that I doubt anyone with regularly sized fingers will use, the extra screen size here does not mean much.
 
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Is there blood pressure measuring now, like in Samsungs Galaxy watch 4 ?
Apple is typically expected to run late on difficult to measure items. The company seems to want to insist on stability, accuracy, and consistency before releasing new features. There's a Samsung user forum that discusses watch blood pressure reliability and accuracy. It's enlightening. Visit it.
 
A watch cannot accurately measure blood pressure. Period.
As a physician I advice my patients to buy a blood pressure machine with a cuff that they can apply around their arm. Gadgets that claim to measure blood pressure at the wrist are also often inaccurate.
Its a shame, and I really hope that it becomes feasible someday. I take stimulant medication for my ADHD, so need to monitor my blood pressure. I'm terrible at remembering to do that (see 'ADHD'), so a decent wearable blood pressure monitor would be a game changer. But a poor-quality wearable monitor is probably worse than no wearable monitor at all.
 
To be meaningful, blood pressure levels should be measured at a state of rest. Ambulatory (while active) blood pressure monitoring is only useful if certain defined diagnoses are suspected.
"blood pressure levels should be measured at a state of rest" - why - because there are until now no instruments to monitor it; medicine is much to hierarchic and scholastic - many physicians are not able to think around
 
"blood pressure levels should be measured at a state of rest" - why - because there are until now no instruments to monitor it; medicine is much to hierarchic and scholastic - many physicians are not able to think around
It's because a healthy resting blood pressure is different from a healthy active blood pressure. Comparing the two is uninformative.
 
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It's because a healthy resting blood pressure is different from a healthy active blood pressure. Comparing the two is uninformative.
The human body is regulated by a complex system of dependent and/or independent and/or interconnected control loops. Blood pressure control is one small part of that. A monitored profile of the human blood pressure consists of blood pressure measurements during all kinds of activity, resting state and sleep. This is far more valuable as a single sample at the doctors office. May be the Samsung watch 4 is not as accurate as a 1000$ specialised instrument. But the amount of information is superior.
 
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The human body is regulated by a complex system of dependent and/or independent and/or interconnected control loops. Blood pressure control is one small part of that. A monitored profile of the human blood pressure consists of blood pressure measurements during all kinds of activity, resting state and sleep. This is far more valuable as a single sample at the doctors office. May be the Samsung watch 4 is not as accurate as a 1000$ specialised instrument. But the amount of information is superior.
The clinically-approved pressure cuff that I use at home regularly cost £20 (~$28). But its design means that when used it gives superior data to any that are currently generated by wristwatches. The important tradeoff is quantity versus quality of data I guess. If someone genuinely needs to monitor blood pressure for their health, quality is arguably most important.

Its easier to standardise comparisons if they're always being done 'at rest', but I guess in theory a smartwatch should be able to identify if you're resting or not, using the accelerometer and HR sensors. That would be important for identifying trends in bp over time.
 
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A flat edged Apple Watch would be a no-go.
Flat edge makes sense on the iPhone as it's easier and more comfortable to hold.
But on the Watch clothes need to slide over it, rounded edges are way better for that.
This! I too was intrigued by the flat edge renders. But the sharper top edge was going to slightly catch on shirt and jacket cuffs. It would be annoying.
 
The clinically-approved pressure cuff that I use at home regularly cost £20 (~$28). But its design means that when used it gives superior data to any that are currently generated by wristwatches. The important tradeoff is quantity versus quality of data I guess. If someone genuinely needs to monitor blood pressure for their health, quality is arguably most important.

Its easier to standardise comparisons if they're always being done 'at rest', but I guess in theory a smartwatch should be able to identify if you're resting or not, using the accelerometer and HR sensors. That would be important for identifying trends in bp over time.
I think under therapy the most interesting measurement point is during sleep early in the morning when people usually get their cerebral infarction.
 
Well even though I had just finished 4 years with my Apple Watch Series 3 I was planning one more year before I upgraded, but then I dropped it (shame because before that it was actually in almost perfect condition) and the screen shattered (sucks). So, I had been building excitement for the series 7. But, after the Event I was very disappointed and then with the latest information I decided that since this isn't really the watch I actually wanted that I would just take one fo the discount deals on a series 6 (which will be delivered in the next couple of day). I will see what the next couple of years bring to consider the newest model in the future.

And, to one of the questions. The 20% improvement in performance was compared to the S5 which just happens to be the same claims of the improvement in performance of the S6 over the S5. So the performance of the S6 and S7 are expected to be the same as each other but both 20% improved over the S5.
 
Okay, understood. So if my watch is already at, say 85%, I wouldn’t receive 8 hours of charge in 8 mins cause it’s so close to full?
Correct. Plus they didn't exactly say that you get 8 hours of charge in 8 minutes. They said that you get 8 hours of Sleep Tracking in 8 minutes which is going to be a different use case than 8 hours of daytime use.

I am just sad that this plus a slightly bigger screen are the only improvements over a serves 6. But, I know that will be enough for some. :)
 
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Anyone think we’re just stuck with 18 hour battery for the next few years until a new battery tech comes out? That’s the only hardware upgrade I really want. If series 8 & 9 will just continue to be 18 hours, I’ll likely go ahead and get the 7. No way to know, but it sure would be nice to!

I wonder if the new battery tech that Whoop is using now would help?
 
No-one yet, but the technology is there.
Just that peoples lives depend on accurate measurements, and to get to that point, it will take time (eg clinical trials), and, the other thing people don’t realize, it will add a HEAFTY premium ( think of what a Dexcom 1-2 year supply costs)
I both agree and don't agree. Medical equipment companies make a killing on supplies that cost them next to nothing to make... And, if/when apple (or others) finish the meter that would be in this watch it will not need supplies.

But, I do know that they will not supply it until it is small enough, energy efficient enough, and accurate enough. I really really want to this feature. The talk about it way back before the first watch is part of what got me interested in the watch in the first place. I waited until the series 3 before I jumped on board because I wanted this feature and then finally decided to leap. I had at that time planned to use the series 3 until they release glucose monitoring but sadly, while it was still in great shape, I dropped it in the kitchen, while working on a broken band, and the screen shattered, about 3 weeks or so ago. So, I was planning on getting the series 7 (and then keep it until ...). But, after all the information on the series 7 I have jumped on a $349 deal for the 44mm series 6 GPS-WIFI model.

I will plan to use this one until... LOL
 
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