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Good article.

1,875 Apple Watch Editions!

When did Apple last sell so few of a product? I think this may be a record. Did the Newton ever have such low numbers?

Thank goodness for Slice. They are doing what Steve Jobs used to do at each keynote: tell us how many products Apple have sold.

Jonny Ive has said that he is "very tired." The reason for this is because he tried his hardest to design a thin, attractive watch and failed. The trauma of a thick watch is just too much to bear. He knows his heart is not in wearables. Neither is the general public's.
Not really fair to be showing the super-expensive watches. The iPod sold very few initially and, in fact, sold fewer than the Apple Watch by a wide margin. Some things take time. Many people are taking a wait and see approach,... we will see better sales the next generation.
 
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I replied to something he'd said previously and ended my comment with "This forum is better without trolls." (Which, to be fair, is true of any forum.) The result was a 3 day ban from the website.

Yep. Calling someone a 'troll' even though they ARE a troll gets you banned from this website.

But BEING a troll and harassing people is perfectly fine for the moderators.
 
"I'm sorry, I can't help you with that right now."
Yeah, it'd be nice if Siri was as capable as Microsoft's voice recognition from 12 years ago.

It resided on the phone, and used the Internet when it needed to, not for every time you wanted to check your appointment or call someone in your contacts.

Hey Siri developers:
If I want to do something that is already on my phone, I don't need the Internet to figure out what is already on my phone. You figure it out, and get back to me quickly.
If I want to something that is on the Internet, like find the best eatery in Henderson, Nevada, then connect up to the Internet.

I'm sure a smartphone that is 256* times more powerful than my 2003 windows phone can handle the same task.

*Using Moore's Law of technology doubling every 18 months, so 12 years is 8 doublings, or 256x.
 
Good article.

1,875 Apple Watch Editions!

When did Apple last sell so few of a product? I think this may be a record. Did the Newton ever have such low numbers?

1,875 * $13,700 = $25,687,500

When did Apple sell so few of a product and made such a high level of income proportionate to the sale?

Jonny Ive has said that he is "very tired."

Yeah, I've read the New Yorker article too. It's clear though that Ive isn't "very tired" of designing products. He's very tired of the extremes people people place on those products and how there's such an extreme fuss and attention paid to it. He's a shy person.

The reason for this is because he tried his hardest to design a thin, attractive watch and failed. The trauma of a thick watch is just too much to bear. He knows his heart is not in wearables. Neither is the general public's.

The attempts to see failure where failure doesn't exist are kinda laughable here. Apple Watch Edition is not intended to be a high-volume product, but a prestige product, meant more to drum up conversation than to actually drive profit. Apple's probably surprised they sold as may as they did.

Admittedly, a lot of this is Apple's own doing. Originally, Apple's position on products like the iPhone was that even if they breached high single-digit percentage numbers in the market, it would be a resounding success for them. We are now unfortunately in the age of "best quarters ever" where cynics assume immediately that if hundreds of millions of a product are not flying out of the factories and into the hands of frenzied fanatical fans, then it's an utter flop.

Such a model isn't sustainable. There are only 7.3 billion people on the planet. And eventually, people are going to point to the fact that Apple didn't sell 8 billion of X product this last quarter, and that means DOOOOOMED.
 
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Yep. Calling someone a 'troll' even though they ARE a troll gets you banned from this website.

But BEING a troll and harassing people is perfectly fine for the moderators.

I didn't call him a troll, though. I said "This forum is better without trolls." I could also say now, in response to you the exact same thing and it be true. :(
 
Just wondering how it compares to the launch of the AppleTV which was a hobby.

That would be an interesting comparison. The interest in wearable tech isn't going to be as broad as tablets/phones. This was never going to be a major seller, at least not at this point.
 
What about the Gold Apple watch with FaceTime™ built-in?

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Apple has a huge brand behind them. You can bet whatever they put out they'll be a few million Apple loyalists will buy it. For a company like Apple, it is a failure.
You do not know the exact number of what is possible in this yet to be developed market.
As with all it's items Apple starts someplace and then keeps refining.
We will eventually see a watch that doesn't need the iPhone.

As for failure, I'd like to sell 3 million of anything with Apple margins.

Probably would only need to do that one and retire.
 
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I didn't call him a troll, though. I said "This forum is better without trolls." I could also say now, in response to you the exact same thing and it be true. :(
Yea, you should have ask the moderators about that. Some people slip by moderations, others get wrongly accused. I get my fair share of warnings from misinterpreted posts every now and then but that could be because some people just don't like me.
That frost guy complains so much I can't understand why he is even on this site. If he doesn't like the watch then why is he wasting time making comments? I don't like Google but I don't sign up for Android forums just to bash it. That makes me more upset about it, not feeling better.
 
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The problem with the Apple Watch was the marketing. The Apple Watch is a bit more extravagant than an apple mouse and it was exposed as something way beyond the iPod. Even the introduction of the iPod was more humble. So creating false expectations was the biggest mistake. If Apple had release the Apple Watch without mayor notifications people would have discover it, being curious about it and slowly integrating it into their life.

The article is not mentioning how many Apple Watch were giving away for free. You bet any of those artists had to pay for theirs.
 
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I am sick to death of the Slice "research" as if God had come down on earth named slice. This so called research has not been corroborated in fact some has challenged its methodology. Such bull
 
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Come on people. Let's do the math here.
If these numbers are extrapolated from 22,000 people, this means that only 13 or 14 people from Slice's population bought one of the editions.
Not only do I think that this is statistically a totally unreliable number because of the small group of people, but I also doubt whether the demographic of people that buy an edition are really represented in Slice's population.
It is not really the group that is willing to share their online spendings with a research firm I would guess.
 
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Good article.

1,875 Apple Watch Editions!

When did Apple last sell so few of a product? I think this may be a record. Did the Newton ever have such low numbers?

Thank goodness for Slice. They are doing what Steve Jobs used to do at each keynote: tell us how many products Apple have sold.

Jonny Ive has said that he is "very tired." The reason for this is because he tried his hardest to design a thin, attractive watch and failed. The trauma of a thick watch is just too much to bear. He knows his heart is not in wearables. Neither is the general public's.

Why don't you thank me too? I just estimated that Apple sold 5,329,900,001 watches.

These estimates mean nothing just like the 90% drop in sales story is meaningless until we have a real number to base all of this nonsense speculation upon. Apple doesn't want to give that number because they are trying to manage Wall Street and media expectations at least until quarterly earnings. But they probably won't break out Apple Watch numbers until after Watch 2.0.
 
Back at the end of May Apple executives threw an Apple Watch party in San Francisco for employees who worked on the product (you can find some photos on Instagram). Imagine Dragons performed. According to one account:

https://illogicaloutcome.wordpress....ons-as-a-treat-for-a-job-amazingly-well-done/


Now honestly if the product was the failure that many in the media are spinning it out to be (the latest is a laughable story from Mark Wilson at Fast Company) would Apple executives be throwing a party for employees involved with the product and telling them demand is exceeding expectations? You don't throw a party and bring in Imagine Dragons to perform for something that's a flop.

Media is bought and paid for by competitors and the highest bidder. I've actually seen MacRumors on the news before (TV News) and they were cited as a credible source for all things Apple. I shook my head. Clearly MacRumors is starting to make some serious money at this point.
 
Good article.

1,875 Apple Watch Editions!

When did Apple last sell so few of a product? I think this may be a record. Did the Newton ever have such low numbers?

Thank goodness for Slice. They are doing what Steve Jobs used to do at each keynote: tell us how many products Apple have sold.

Jonny Ive has said that he is "very tired." The reason for this is because he tried his hardest to design a thin, attractive watch and failed. The trauma of a thick watch is just too much to bear. He knows his heart is not in wearables. Neither is the general public's.

I don't care about the Apple Watch either way. But this comment is so ridiculous, it's comical. Between the phrase "trauma of a thick watch" and knowing what's inside Jonny's heart, you unintentionally have me rolling in stitches. Keep up the nonsensical posts.
 
That's all this stuff is, predictions and estimates. Only Cook and Co. Know the facts. Personally, I think everyone expects everything Apple makes to be the next iPhone, so by this standard a million a month is disappointing.
It's not Apple's fault if people have unrealistic expectations. I'm not aware of anyone at Apple saying they expected the Watch to sell at iPhone levels. If that's the standard than just about any product any company sells would be considered a failure.
 
What is with all the desperate urgency to paint the Apple Watch as a failure? Apple has always had critics; that is normal and expected, but this is something different. I suspect payola or pathology. This just isn't normal human behavior. This could count as a full time job for certain posters here.
 
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