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Ugly square, bad battery life, :eek: ..... just get a Garmin Fenix 5S Plus, battery lasts most of the week and it trounces the AW in quality and looks. :cool: and spotify > apple music. :D
 
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No offense to the 7 people who own an iWatch, much like the 3 people who own the iHomePod, but is this even still a thing? I haven’t seen a single person wearing an iWatch in public. First, this thing would actually be useful if it was round. Don’t care if rectangle is more functional. Circle looks nicer. Second, no one cares about health. Americans are massively obese by choice. Stop shoving health in my face, stupid Apple. I like eating McDonald’s every day, that’s my choice, stop shaming me.
It’s an Apple Watch, not an “iWatch” lol.

And where do you live? I literally see a hundred per day. I went to Disney World and it seemed like more than half the people had an Apple Watch.

And if you’ve looked at the financials, it’s obvious Apple is selling a lot of them. They just put up over $5B in wearables revenue in a slow quarter.

Apple is likely selling 25M watches per year. It’s massively successful.

Apple just did more revenue in wearables than all of Netflix does in a quarter.
 
Ouch FitBit. At this rate I'm going to have to jump ship to Garmin.

BTW... not a hater post. I want an Apple Watch, but the battery life makes it impossible for those of us with sleep disorders who need sleep tracking.
The Watch4 is really nice. In my experience you could charge it when you wake up, put it back on after showering and dressing, and charge it again, say in the hour you spend eating or reading or watching TV at night and you should be more than fine.

As for me, I wear my Series 0 at night instead. Works fine for sleep monitoring though YMMV.
 
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People were afraid Tim couldn’t deliver a hit new product in a new category, but the Apple Watch seems like a roaring success. That’s 50% YOY growth from Q2 last year.

and what did tim.
jony ive lost his mojo bringing this thing to life ... just start reading newspapers!
the apple watch was delivered by macrumors and other fan bases who redesigned that crap generation 1 software into something useable!
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I only need to charge my Apple Watch once per day while I take a shower and get ready in the morning. It tracks me literally over 23 hours of everyday. I don’t really want to wear it in the shower and not necessary while eating breakfast. This is a much smarter use case and solution. It doesn’t take many hours or cause a ripple to simply use the product and get all of the benefits of it. The Apple Watch and AirPods are the only two products by Apple I am completely happy with right now.

I hate the notch (symmetry is what defines beauty) on the iPhone more than anything, the MacBook Pros have garbage touchbars, terrible throttling due to poor design, and horrific keyboard travel not even considering the failure rate.

The iPad Pro is a great product but horrible value. I bought one, but for literally 1/5 the price I got a cellular Tab S4 that has almost as much display size for watching Netflix videos as a 12.9” iPad Pro due to the poor 4:3 screen ratio of the iPads. The value isn’t there. It’s not worth 5x as much money. It just isn’t. It’s a great product but not at 5x. HomePod is nice but not great. AppleTV is okay. In my opinion, Apple has lost its way looking only to grow services and wearables.

Now I have a Samsung Note 9 and S10+ 5G. Where is Apple’s game with its primary breadwinner, stuck in the past. No worries, I am an idiot stuck loving Apple and have a XS Max that has worse battery life than the other phones even with the battery case sold by Apple. It’s just that bad.

Oh, I hear the six-color logo is making a comeback - stuck in the past as there are no visionaries left at Apple. AppleTV+, way too late to the game. Apple Card, a gimmick. Any small company can have their own branded credit card.

Apple is being smoked by Huawei and sizzled by Samsung. Seriously, I saw a Huawei Honor 10 Lite for $120. Dual SIM, either 401 or 441 PPI LCD that looks good. Is it an iPhone? NO. But it does amazingly well with the AI Kirin chip. $120 Huawei beats Apple’s XR at LCD and is true 1080p FHD+ screen.

The Apple ecosystem is sticky, but Tim Cook’s money grab has to be nearing its end. The company has to innovate, and it’s now in the copycat business. Out of many of the things that made Apple great, and focused on growing services due to overpriced iPhones being simply ignored by the public. FaceID might be more secure, but I will take TouchID bezels and all way over the damned notch and ridiculous appearance. Apple better have way more up its sleeves than the iPhone 2019 series that is rumored. It’s garbage so out of touch with reality in the year we are in 2019.

I call on the board to look at real strategy to “Make Apple Great Again!”

why do you own 3 phones ... and an inferior xs when having 2 superior samsung phones .. makes no sense to me. or does your family use them, otherwise charity would be thankful for some of your wealth, haha!
 
It’s an Apple Watch, not an “iWatch” lol.

And where do you live? I literally see a hundred per day. I went to Disney World and it seemed like more than half the people had an Apple Watch.

And if you’ve looked at the financials, it’s obvious Apple is selling a lot of them. They just put up over $5B in wearables revenue in a slow quarter.

Apple is likely selling 25M watches per year. It’s massively successful.

Apple just did more revenue in wearables than all of Netflix does in a quarter.
Just need to walk around NYC as an example to see the popularity of the Apple Watch. Maybe not popular like that everywhere, but seems like the AW is a hit regardless of the naysayers.
 
According to Tim Cook. I don’t trust a word he says. Fact is, Apple doesn’t quote real numbers with the iWatch. Because, as I predicted back in 2014, the iWatch is a failure very much like 2013 Mac Pro, iMac Pro, 12-inch MacBook, MacBook Pro with Butterfly keyboard/Touch Bar, iPod (do NOT argue with me on this, the iPod is no longer sold and is canceled, I am right, YOU ARE WRONG), the G4 Cube, Hockey Puck Mouse, HomePod, and AirPods (they look like goddamn Q-tips sticking out of your ear, you look ridiculous, have some dignity). That’s my opinion, of course. But I think I have very good reasons to be skeptical of how successful the iWatch is, because, to me, it’s a gimmick. It’s UGLY first of all. Battery life sucks. It’s EXPENSIVE. It FAILED as a fashion product and then had to be positioned as a “healthstyle” device. News flash, no one cares about health, and frankly, health is not a priority in life. How about POWERFUL GPUs, Apple? How about upgradeable RAM, Apple? Forget this health nonsense. And it’ll be obsolete in a couple of years. I see through Tim Cook’s crap. The iWatch is another $1000 Apple device users are forced to upgrade along with a $1500 iPhone. That’s $2500 every year an Apple user has to pony up yearly to keep up with the latest and greatest.

Suddenly now there’s an goddamn Apple credit card. Hmm. Yeah, that’s not a coincidence.


Wow ... such anger
You must really be upset because you took the time to annoy the rest of us with your rant instead of posting something useful. Though what I can't understand is why you are on an Apple rumours site when you don't seem to like any of the recent Apple products. The reality is that your opinion doesn't really mean anything to the rest of us (if you don't agree, then YOU ARE WRONG, so DO NOT ARGUE).

If you can handle them, here are some facts (or best estimates as reported by an analyst who has no skin in the game):
  • Apple shipped a greater percentage share of the total smartwatch sales, compared to one year earlier - and grew the sales by a greater number of units than any other company
  • Contrary to what you said, the iPod is still being sold : https://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/
    • making verifiably false statements reduces your credibility and dignity
  • The US is not the centre of the universe and your opinion regarding regarding the priority of health is not the only one -- while it may be possible to make an argument that a disturbing number of North Americans don't care for their health as much as they should, there is a whole world out there ( @Suttree - you should try to get out of your parents' basement and check it out some time, you might be surprised)
    • regardless of the above, a skilled marketing department will create a market where none previously existed (look up the history of Viagra for an example of this). Apple has done that
    • those of us who spend our lives helping others care for their health appreciate anything that helps people stay healthy and minimizes the need for medications, medical interventions, etc
  • my children still use their Series 0 watches - they serve the purpose that they were meant to serve. That's 4 years of use (not "a couple") and at a net cost of less than a cup of coffee per day (or doughnut, or Big Mac, or whatever terms of reference you connect with.) If you think that you don't waste that much money on a daily basis, then you are wrong (No, don't argue, you are definitely wrong. Unless you work at a minimum wage job [in which case your anger at the cost is likely misdirected] then the time you took to write your rant probably was worth more than that coffee, doughnut, or burger.)
  • On average, a pack of cigarettes costs $7 in the US. For this much, you could purchase a new Hermes Apple Watch about every seven months. Go with a more reasonably priced one and you could replace it every three months. If you actually did this, there is no doubt that you could sell the previous one for at least 60% of what you purchased it for, allowing you to get a new one every six weeks. Or, give up smoking and get a new phone and new watch every year (and pocket whatever the residual value is when you upgrade)
    • Perhaps you should think about why you feel the need to replace your devices every year? As noted, the watch can work reasonably well for a few years. Apple has also made efforts to ensure that the phone can remain useable for several years (I still use an iPhone 7 [2016], and have had no issues with it running fairly high-demand apps that I use within my medical practice)
  • Notwithstanding the prior two paragraphs, "expensive" is relative. Your income/financial status may not be representative of the market that Apple is targeting - if this is the case, then your opinion won't matter to them (to extend this thought, many people purchase vehicles and homes that are far more expensive than that which would serve their needs -- do you blame the builder/manufacturer for this, or is it the fault of the consumer?)
  • Powerful GPUs, Upgradable RAM, etc have nothing to do with the watch sales and utility
    • If you take the time to examine the corporate structure before spewing vitriol, you would understand that focusing on the watch does not take away from design decisions made regarding the other devices
  • While I have no interest in the credit card personally, from a corporate standpoint, this appears to be a very smart move - instead of paying 2-4% to Amex or MasterCard, they are passing some of this on to the consumer in the form of Apple Cash. It comes off as a nice perk to the consumer (though to my limited knowledge, I don't think it's as good as some other cards). At the same time, it provides Apple with even more cash (until people do something with the Apple Cash, it is sitting in Apple's bank account), while encouraging people to use ApplePay more, and encouraging people to stay within the Apple ecosystem. Even if it is revenue neutral for Apple, it is a smart business decision (which I support, as I am a shareholder). From a consumer standpoint, this should be no different than any other company offering a credit card - if you don't like it then don't get it. No need to be get upset or angry, and realistically, no need to waste cognitive energy on it.
  • all of these devices are consumer products - if you don't like them, or if there is something out there that is better for your particular use pattern, then vote with your pocketbook, but please don't subject the rest of us to your closed-mindedness.

tl;dr
  • Your data is incorrect
  • Your assertions are incorrect
  • Your opinions come from a fixed mindset, which makes them irrelevant to the rest of us
  • You seem to think that Apple cares what you (or any of us individually) think. They don't.
  • You don't seem to understand the role of a corporation. It is to make money for shareholders. That's it.
  • You have to manage your consumerism - nobody is forcing you to buy or to upgrade annually.
Thanks for your post - I had a particularly frustrating day, and you provided the perfect opportunity for me to vent...
 
I was an early skeptic. but now the watch is probably my favourite Apple device alongside AirPods. I would be lost without it. Rocking a silver stainless series 4 and absolutely love it.
 
Ouch FitBit. At this rate I'm going to have to jump ship to Garmin.

BTW... not a hater post. I want an Apple Watch, but the battery life makes it impossible for those of us with sleep disorders who need sleep tracking.

i have a sleep disorder as well. I track my sleep every night using the Apple Watch. I charge for an hour every morning while getting ready to go to work and an hour before I go to sleep.
 
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As someone who had the Gen 1 Watch the day it came out... yeah it was bad. The speed was atrocious and first party apps took ages load. Third party apps literally didn’t load at all.

Despite this, they’ve grown consistently every year and become the number 1 smartwatch with nearly half the market share. That’s quite impressive when you think about how limited the original watch was.
Yeah but you are ignoring the fact that the smart watch market in general is quite anemic.
 
i have a sleep disorder as well. I track my sleep every night using the Apple Watch. I charge for an hour every morning while getting ready to go to work and an hour before I go to sleep.

How long of a charge are you getting? I keep reading people who are saying they're getting about two days a charge, which is over twice as much as Apple rates the AW at. The kind of disorder I have makes any kind of routine really hard so charging for an hour every day can be more challenging than it seems.

2 days is cutting it close, but doable. 3 days and we're on for sure.
 
People were afraid Tim couldn’t deliver a hit new product in a new category, but the Apple Watch seems like a roaring success. That’s 50% YOY growth from Q2 last year.

The number of units shipped aren't really that great. Plus Samsung has been experiencing much higher growth. But for now, they're in the clear
 
The Watch4 is really nice. In my experience you could charge it when you wake up, put it back on after showering and dressing, and charge it again, say in the hour you spend eating or reading or watching TV at night and you should be more than fine.

Yes, it seems like everyone is saying that it charges pretty fast which lets those of us who are absent minded off the hook. The Fitbit Blaze that I have doesn't charge very fast, but it does last up to five days.
 
How is it living under a rock?

jk.

I see them everywhere I go... everywhere. It was much different when the S0 launched; I felt like I had the only one for a long time. Right around the S1 they started to become much mire prolific IMO.

I haven't even heard about this iWatch , but seeing them IRL. I know Apple Watch, but iWatch? is that like some Wish knock off for 3$ ?
To be real, I really would like to get AW, but i'm sure I will get bored of it in 2 days, Im not a wearable fan, I just don't see how it would be useful in my daily life..(just like any other smartwatch)
 
Well, the Apple Watch can be better if it charges up to 90% in 9 minutes for such a miniature device. Oh wait, it took 9 times longer to fully charge on series 4 model which shouldn’t take that long to fully charge for such a tiny device.
 
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No offense to the 7 people who own an iWatch, much like the 3 people who own the iHomePod, but is this even still a thing? I haven’t seen a single person wearing an iWatch in public. First, this thing would actually be useful if it was round. Don’t care if rectangle is more functional. Circle looks nicer. Second, no one cares about health. Americans are massively obese by choice. Stop shoving health in my face, stupid Apple. I like eating McDonald’s every day, that’s my choice, stop shaming me.
I don't know if you're trolling or being serious. "First, this thing would actually be useful if it was round. Don’t care if rectangle is more functional. Circle looks nicer." So you're admitting rectangle is more functional, but it is less useful because rounded looks nicer? What?
 
Ouch FitBit. At this rate I'm going to have to jump ship to Garmin.

BTW... not a hater post. I want an Apple Watch, but the battery life makes it impossible for those of us with sleep disorders who need sleep tracking.

The Apple Watch charges so quickly, you could do that during a shower or a quick 30 minute break, to be able to wear it all night as well. I never understand the battery life argument. I literally never worry or think about it with mine.
 
Oooh, please tell us, what do the adults use?
Going by the ads in in-flight magazines, I would say super successful businessmen and supermodels wear expensive Swiss mechanicals.
So the not so successful ones, in the millions, have to settle for an Apple Watch.
 
The Apple Watch charges so quickly, you could do that during a shower or a quick 30 minute break, to be able to wear it all night as well. I never understand the battery life argument. I literally never worry or think about it with mine.

I know other people nitpick, but that's not what I'm doing. Not arguing here. I like the AW and I think it's a good value in comparison to its competitors, but even with fast charging it's not ideal for the most important things I'd need it for if the average run time is less than a full day.

So, I've been buying the device I need instead of the one I want and hoping that the AW's run time improves enough for me to jump in.

I'm a bit confused as to what that run time is though. People are telling me 2 days here, but others are implying they go about a day and Apple says 18 hours.
 
Ouch FitBit. At this rate I'm going to have to jump ship to Garmin.

BTW... not a hater post. I want an Apple Watch, but the battery life makes it impossible for those of us with sleep disorders who need sleep tracking.
What does sleep tracking enable you to do?
 
No offense to the 7 people who own an iWatch, much like the 3 people who own the iHomePod, but is this even still a thing? I haven’t seen a single person wearing an iWatch in public. First, this thing would actually be useful if it was round. Don’t care if rectangle is more functional. Circle looks nicer. Second, no one cares about health. Americans are massively obese by choice. Stop shoving health in my face, stupid Apple. I like eating McDonald’s every day, that’s my choice, stop shaming me.

See them everywhere in the UK and US.
 
Ouch FitBit. At this rate I'm going to have to jump ship to Garmin.

BTW... not a hater post. I want an Apple Watch, but the battery life makes it impossible for those of us with sleep disorders who need sleep tracking.
And you sleep only once within 48h?
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Honest question...how does tracking help your disorder?
It doesn’t. Sleep tracking is complete non-sense. You wake up, you know if you had a good sleep or not.
The data derived from sleep trackers are not giving any meaningful insights if you think very rationally about it.

What is useful IMHO are those apps that track your snoring habits. You get an idea of how severely your are snoring which can be an indicator of health issues you may have.
 
No offense to the 7 people who own an iWatch, much like the 3 people who own the iHomePod, but is this even still a thing? I haven’t seen a single person wearing an iWatch in public. First, this thing would actually be useful if it was round. Don’t care if rectangle is more functional. Circle looks nicer. Second, no one cares about health. Americans are massively obese by choice. Stop shoving health in my face, stupid Apple. I like eating McDonald’s every day, that’s my choice, stop shaming me.

Funny enough I watched a uk police documentary last night - saw 5 in the first 5 minutes. Easy to spot because of their iconic shape. Funny how many people here slagged both this and the AirPods and now they own the place.....
 
Unsurprised. I may be critical to the bone about Apple's choices on the Mac and iPhone but the series 4 Watch is a solid piece of tech (even considering the dependency with the iPhone) and I'm very happy with it. It's as if it was designed by a different company altogether.
 
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