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So it appears Apple planned the 7 as a 6ss all along, setting up for an 8 next year and skipping a 7s.

Will still be 7s and also a new more expensive one called "iphone pro" with oled screen and thinner bezels and new design. Maby that glass back so it can have wireless charging too. What i think atleast
 
That certainly speaks to my situation. I have a two year old 6+ and even some extra cash, but no desire or need to get a new phone.

How would a two generation newer iPhone 7, or any other manufacturer's phone for that matter, say a Google Pixel or Samsung Galaxy, improve my life or situation?

You're correct. As long as the technology you currently use now with your iPhone suits your needs and daily habits, then the latest and greatest would not always benefit you until you see fit . And coming from a current iPhone 7 Plus user, it's a great iPhone by all means, but the upgrades over the last two iPhone generations have been incremental.

The biggest improvement with the iPhone 7 has been the speed and camera. I know you mentioned your a photographer on previous threads, that said, likely with your talent from pictures you posted, perhaps when and if you do upgrade, the dual camera would perhaps be something of interest to you with the optical zoom and the new portrait mode. I'm only an amateur with photo taking, but the results are impressive with the camera and I have obtained some stellar takes with 10x zoom. Loads of expansion with the dual camera and zoom for the iPhone in the future.

And...you can take that extra cash and pick up the Airpods. (Worth it in my experiences).
 
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Well I remember to a time when mobile phones did not get any innovation year over year. There was competition, but the devices almost looked identical. Well, the other ad a better menu here, the other a better camera there. The better camera was what was marketed, when a new device came out.

It was the time when the phones got thinner, and the users liked that and bought the new new phone of the aesthetics of being thinner.

That might sound familiar to what we have today, bit I am talking about the times when the Motorola RAZR was the hot thing. That time started around 2003 and edit with a Big Bang when the iPhone was introduced. The complete marked was taken by the iPhone and it's lookalikes.

Now we are 10 years in the future and it seems to repeating itself. This time I doubt that Apple will come out with a innovation that would give the market a new spin. I don't see that ability with Apple Anymore.

So, what Do I expect:
  • We might see 1 or 2 Macs to be released. They cannot compete with average devices of the competitors, but are way overpriced. The Mac market will shrink faster than the notebook market.
  • We will see a new iPhone, it might look different. Well it still has the display, and the shape might be rectangular, but it might be slimmer and more reduced. Something what we all know is missing from the device and some kinky feature (animated emojis)) might be pressed in.
  • We will see new iPads. They look like the old devices. Apple still has no clue how to make out of the iPad more than a couch surfing device, but they will promote it as the better notebook, even when the UI has not improved and it does not support professional workflows. They might marked the new iPad with the "Hello again again" slogan.

All the parts are still selling good. Not as good as expected, but man there is competition. Cook will stay and continue his mission to burn the companies assets.
 
This is actually good news for us customers!

Maybe this will be a wake-up call for our Iteration King to head down the stairs screaming "Jony, put away your carvers and take that iPhone out of the hydraulic press - we need something different this time!"
 
How do you explain away that Apple Pay now has zoomed past all the competitors, including Samsung, Google, etc., to dominate the market with 75% of all contactless payments??????

Turns out you were just spit ballin info that Cook spit-balled to the Fortune writer, a writer that had to put all kinds disclaimers in the article ...

"Apple hasn’t revealed exact volume or usage numbers, but it has said the service adds one million new users each week. Apple has also said in the past that transaction volume through Apple Pay is five times the amount from a year ago. But without a baseline usage number, it’s impossible know whether the current volume is significant."

Here's the real data, with the real story behind Apple Pay usage ...

http://www.pymnts.com/news/mobile-payments/2016/apple-pay-adoption-usage-2016/

http://www.pymnts.com/apple-pay-adoption/
 
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Yup. Must be from sluggish sales, and not from the usual sales volume decline after the rush of a launch of a new model and holiday shopping season.
You clearly have no idea about supply chain management. The supply chain already knew about the Ordner decline after the initial sales surge because it happens every year. This is a 10% reduction in top of that that is caused by "sluggish" sales because the iPhone 7 really wasn't that impressive of an upgrade.
 
That's why I ordered mine online and it came the next day, I hate dealing with store representatives anyway. I can never walk out of a store without them trying to tack on $80 in unnecessary accessories

Sluggish sales and STILL not in stock at any Verizon stores around me. I'm getting really sick of companies pulling this BS. :mad:
 
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You clearly have no idea about supply chain management. The supply chain already knew about the Ordner decline after the initial sales surge because it happens every year. This is a 10% reduction in top of that that is caused by "sluggish" sales because the iPhone 7 really wasn't that impressive of an upgrade.

Ohh, I see. Can you show me evidence of this claim? Surely, claiming that the iPhone 7 isn't an impressive upgrade should be easy to quantify.
 
Ohh, I see. Can you show me evidence of this claim? Surely, claiming that the iPhone 7 isn't an impressive upgrade should be easy to quantify.

~10mio hits on google for "iPhone 7 is not impressive"
~1.5mio hits on google for "iPhone 7 is impressive"
 
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This is what happens when you put most of your investment in the product that provides more income. You crash hard, without having alternatives, when you hit the limit of such product (either by lack of innovation/quality or by lack of market demand).

Apple in the past: Good design + efficiency + user friendly + developer friendly + rock-solid stability + comfortable updates in a few minutes.

Apple currently: Average design + buggy + feature reduced (Disk Utility, MagSafe, AirPort...) + bloated >4GB software updates that take hours to download + bloated everything + fast income-biased AppStore rules + investment moved from a good operating system (OS X) to a crippled one (iOS) + pushing the user into Apple services + political lobbying + "Samsung is to blame" attitude.

Yes, the money is on iOS... but... forever? really? Are you sure iOS is your true and only future? Or maybe neglecting the quality and products that built your reputation will take a bill at some point?
 
We are witnessing the beginning of the decline of the Apple brand. It won't happen overnight of course - but these are the signs. Fractured models - three new sizes for the next release. Macs not being tended to or refreshed properly. It isn't the recycled phone design that will cause it. It's just...time. Happened to Nokia, Microsoft, Blackberry, etc.

People forget the iPhone has been around TEN years already. That's a long time for people to become bored. Another five years, tops, and Apple is going to be in some trouble. The phone is 90% of their business model.
 
This is actually good news for us customers!

Maybe this will be a wake-up call for our Iteration King to head down the stairs screaming "Jony, put away your carvers and take that iPhone out of the hydraulic press - we need something different this time!"

Apart from the fact it's been widely reported to have been Ive's personal dream to make a phone that looks like one sheet of glass...

So this new phone IF it exists will still be 'his' design. Probably won't have any ports and be 5.5mm thin with half a days battery life and start from $1500.
 
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