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And to think Samsung opened the door for them and handed them the keys... :confused:
 
So they are admitting they created artificial demand by trickling out units? I mean, you couldn't locate a 7 in the fervor, now they are slowing production because of a surplus?

Doesn't add up. Wall Street will want answers. Seems shady to me, if not unethical.
 
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Sluggish sales and STILL not in stock at any Verizon stores around me. I'm getting really sick of companies pulling this BS. :mad:

I ended up re-ordering on launch day at a non-apple retailer, had mine 3 days later. Other than "jet black", there was plenty of phones within a month".
 
So they are admitting they created artificial demand by trickling out units? I mean, you couldn't locate a 7 in the fervor, now they are slowing production because of a surplus?

Doesn't add up. Wall Street will want answers. Seems shady to me, if not unethical.
Go to post #47 if you want to understand how much of a reoccurring non-story this is.
 
This is all just fluff. I want to know how many units have been sold. That laid out over last years data is where the meat is for a true analyst not trying to boost his street credibility and those numbers will come out sooner than latter I suspect.

I suspect that we are going to see lower sales this year over the 6s which were lower than the 6. Apple tends to sell the most units when it is a new design. This is not a unknown thing.

I am waiting for the story on how the iPhone 7 was the backup design. I just feel the 7 was the beta design like the MacBook design was. The team was reaching and they needed more time to get it to market. The 7 fills the whole for now in the run up to the major new design.
 
http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-inc-aapl-cut-iphone-6s-production-30-percent-sales-lag-2250430 iPhone 6s

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...-smartphone-market-galaxy-s3-smartphone-sales <-Same Neikki firm responsible for this report iPhone 5

https://www.slashgear.com/iphone-4s-production-supposedly-slashed-over-demandsupply-issues-09194164/ iPhone 4s

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1260577 <-Iphone 4

https://www.cnet.com/news/analyst-apple-cutting-iphone-production/ - iPhone 3GS

http://www.macworld.com/article/1136551/iphone3g_production.html - iPhone 3G

These exact same production cut rumors come out like clockwork somewhere between November and January (while orders for Q1 are being placed). This is clockwork, this is constant year to year, yet it makes news every year based on clickbait ******** and lazy reporting.

You see one tech news site report, they all do in "me too" fashion. I'm sure someone makes a killing off the temporary stock drop every single year these damn "cuts" or "production issues" stories come out.

Nothing to see here folks, we'll see you all here in 10-12 months for the next great production cut "scandal".
Good search. Good info. I can get behind that. Danke.
 
If only Apple could figure out to have ample supply when the phone actually came out. Every year they made people wait upto 6 weeks to get these devices.. LOL honestly, if i order at launch and im to expect my delivery in end of November or something, the phone is obsolete by that time hehe
I agree. And the reason Apple couldn't capitalize on the Note 7 debacle was that those folks like my husband who would have gone to the iPhone 7 Plus were told there likely would not be any available until February. We wer both utterly shocked when we went to the Apple Store in early December and found that they did have some stock, but not full stock. My husband would have preferred 256 GB but had to settle for 128 GB.
 
Good search. Good info. I can get behind that. Danke.
It took surprisingly longer that I thought to get those. Google's algorithms now stick the most trending results (meaning the very story we're discussing) in even when explicitly searching for things like "iPhone 5s production cut".

Google's a ****ing nightmare these days.

I'm also certain these rumors are done at the behest of people with minds like Jim Cramer who notoriously spread misinformation to hit a stock so they can pick it up cheaper and flip when it rebounds.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/09/03/13/jon_stewart_exposes_apple_stock_manipulation
 



Apple plans to reduce production of the iPhone line by 10 percent beginning in the first quarter of 2017, according to supplier data collected by Nikkei. Apple is said to have experienced a similar situation thanks to accumulated inventory of the iPhone 6s late in 2015, which also caused it to lower output of that smartphone in Q1 2016.

The company attempted to prevent the same thing from happening again with the iPhone 7 by curbing production quantities on the 2016 smartphone, but even with that preemptive move Apple is again looking at a manufacturing downturn for its flagship iPhone line in the new year.

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In the report, Nikkei cites "sluggish" global sales for the iPhone 7 as the main reason behind the move. Because of this, the production cuts are expected to be focused on the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus.
Apple could have capitalized on Samsung's Galaxy Note7 problems earlier in the year, but according to a collection of analysts the iPhone 7 lacked "compelling" features and failed to garner interest in the new smartphone line. In September, Apple made the decision not to divulge the first weekend sales for the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. Throughout the year, a "doom and gloom" sentiment has followed the company ever since it reported its first revenue decline in thirteen years.

Later in 2017, Apple will launch the next-generation iPhone, which is currently rumored to come in three different sizes, one of which will include a flexible OLED display with a bezel-free design. Rumors are still conflicting, however, with a report from Mac Otakara suggesting that next year's iPhone could be an iterative update on the design of the iPhone 7 with beefed up internals.

Article Link: Apple Will Reduce iPhone 7 Production By 10% in Early 2017 Due to 'Sluggish' Sales
[doublepost=1483124700][/doublepost]If Apple would listen a little more to what their best and longest term customers want instead of pushing the extreme edge of ID, sales wouldn't be sluggish.
 
Please slow down and think for yourself instead of listening to trolls. They didn't make the phone thinner!!!! They used the space to make the battery larger, add a second speaker, increase the size of the haptic engine and increase its water resistance

They increased the haptic engine abit and placed a large empty piece of plastic covering the left speaker grills. I think it contains a small barometric vent at the top, because it needs pressure equalisation due to being water tight. But it was mostly replaced by empty space.

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Part of me wants this xSS adventure to fail, for a company as large as apple and with their resources there is no excuse for the same design 3 years running other than pure profit.

Personally I tried, and went back to my 6S , I actually like having the headphone jack , even though I use my AirPods for commuting and gym
 
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I purely didn't upgrade because of the rediculous price they charge for the 7.


No lie there ... a base 7 goes for just over $1,000 with tax ... even on the 2-year plan I had to upfront $550 of it (I got the 128GB model which was $1,160 with tax.)
 
Let's wait and see what the actual sales numbers are. The high price not the design is the deciding factor for most people. Hence why Apple does well on Xmas.


I still find it absolutely fascinating that no single shareholder has requested a formal audit of product sales.

Because of this, (and its a "thought experiment") we can only assume the only shareholders in the company are employees themselves.
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They increased the haptic engine abit and placed a large empty piece of plastic covering the left speaker grills. I think it contains a small barometric vent at the top, because it needs pressure equalisation due to being water tight. But it was mostly replaced by empty space.

HKE5xh2dBgS6rEUv.medium

Flies in the face of the idea "Every 1/10 of a millimeter is 'precious'" doesn't it..?
 
I thought sales were "Off the charts". That's what happens when you try to pull Jedi mind tricks on people and you get caught because a supplier isn't as secretive.
 
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I'm not a significant stock holder so I don't really care what the sales numbers are, but I'm wondering if consumers have simply realized that the phones are good enough to last 2-3 years, and there's always a better model around the corner, so might as well stretch out the current device for another generation.
 
The calendar is turning past the holiday season and the rampant rumors of the iPhone 8 are taking hold. It isn't surprising that people are inclined to hold out if they can.

My belief is that whatever "sluggishness" there is now will be repaid in spades when the pent up demand is unleashed on the 8.
 
I still find it absolutely fascinating that no single shareholder has requested a formal audit of product sales.


Yeah, no shareholder revolts don't usually happen UNTIL there is a sustained and "quantifiable" turn of direction in the revenue/profit model and so far Cook has managed to hold them at bay.
 
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