No one said Apple was first.
Glad you recognize Apple wasn't the first!
No one said Apple was first.
They were already introduced on phones before the iPhone saw the light of day in 2007. Toshiba made the first one and Motorola had a smart phone with fingerprint scanner before the iPhone came out with it.No one said Apple was first.
Apple started the trend.
What HIGH volume FLAGSHIP device introduced the general public to the fingerprint scanner? The iPhone.
Aside from us nerds on here, no one can even name a high volume flagship device that had a fingerprint scanner before the iPhone. Good luck with people knowing what the "Atrix" is.
Well, I knew they weren't first. My point is, the general public doesn't know about all of these low budget devices that experimented with features like that. Apple makes those features popular, and its forces OEM to follow suit. Apple wasn't first with removing the headphone jack, but it will start a trend and everyone other major manufacturer will get in line and remove it as well. Samsung is first in line, with their flagship device. Most people only know: iOS (iPhone), Android (Galaxy) anyway.Glad you recognize Apple wasn't the first!
Who?They were already introduced on phones before the iPhone saw the light of day in 2007. Toshiba made the first one and Motorola had a smart phone with fingerprint scanner before the iPhone came out with it.
Well, I knew they weren't first. My point is, the general public doesn't know about all of these low budget devices that experimented with features like that. Apple makes those features popular, and its forces OEM to follow suit. Apple wasn't first with removing the headphone jack, but it will start a trend and everyone other major manufacturer will get in line and remove it as well. Samsung is first in line, with their flagship device. Most people only know: iOS (iPhone), Android (Galaxy) anyway.
That's true.Fair points - except - The attix was a $700+ phone - so not so much a 'budget' phone!
That's true.
Let's be COMPLETELY honest: The Atrix fingerprint scanner was HORRIBLE when you compare it to the iPhone 5S.
I highly doubt its because of the headphone jack. Its basically the same design for THREE years...people don't see a reason to upgrade. With the AirPods doing so well, people are coming around to the whole "wireless" idea. Apple had to lay the groundwork..the 7 is a placeholder for the 10th Anniversary iPhone. Mark my words: you will see more Android phones without the headphone jack next year... wireless is the future. Most flagships won't even have a headphone jack by the end of 2018.
SO ... we'll have absolutely NO idea how many of those sales where 7 and 7+ ... Apple pulling the wool as always.
Glad you recognize Apple wasn't the first!
Well, you misunderstood the situation. It'seems not that the production is being cut compared to the previous quarter. That's indeed would be expected. 10% drop is compared to the same period previous year (i.e. compared to iPhone 6S). Just read the linked Nikkei article. So, yes it'a a big problem.I love how every year orders go down in Q1, yet no one seems to bat an eye when it's claimed to be due to poor sales.
Maybe, and stay with me here guys, you don't need to produce as many phones a month as you do during the run up to the Holiday season??
I'd love to know how to get an analyst job, must be nice to be paid to just make claims regardless of the impact or veracity of them. I'd start with a piece on Butterball being in trouble because turkey sales mysteriously slowed down after November...for some unknowable reason.![]()
I was basing it off Tim Cook said, and the recent article about AirPods suppliers increasing production capacity.I don't really agree with that. Firstly we don't know how many Airpods have sold, all we know is there is limited stock. That could be from overwhelming sales but it could also be due to constrained supply. They did after-all delay the Airpods about two months. Furthermore the only people buying them are going to be iPhone / Mac owners of which there are 150+ million in the world so it has no bearing on Android switch rates.
Secondly the push back on the lack of the 3.5mm jack was really quite high, I'm sure it persuaded some Android phone owners from switching to iOS when they could stick with flagships from other companies. It's also what analysts are saying who are more qualified than I in these matters.
iPhone owners like myself didn't really have a choice in the matter. If we want to keep using iOS and stay invested in this ecosystem that we've spent a lot of money on (Apps, Watch, Laptop) but we wanted a new phone we had to get the iPhone 7. But that's just not true of Android owners, they had more options.
you bet your heart we doOh man. MacRumors is going to love this story.
Well, you misunderstood the situation. It'seems not that the production is being cut compared to the previous quarter. That's indeed would be expected. 10% drop is compared to the same period previous year (i.e. compared to iPhone 6S). Just read the linked Nikkei article. So, yes it'a a big problem.
While all this is true it is not clear to me why would you give credit to Apple for improving the fingerprint sensors. A trip version was not that good not because Motorola screwed it up but because the sensors (and phone CPUs) were not that good at the time. Sensor vendors improved their products since then. That's itThat's true.
Let's be COMPLETELY honest: The Atrix fingerprint scanner was HORRIBLE when you compare it to the iPhone 5S.
This article is funny (it was from three years ago) when Apple introduced the iPhone 5S, with a fingerprint scanner.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/12/iphone-5s-fingerprint-scanner/
Fast forward to 2017, not having a fingerprint scanner on a flagship device is unheard of. Just like we won't see many flagship with headphone jacks in a few years. Who knows? Maybe in 2018-2020, I'll find this post.
While all this is true it is not clear to me why would you give credit to Apple for improving the fingerprint sensors. A trip version was not that good not because Motorola screwed it up but because the sensors (and phone CPUs) were not that good at the time. Sensor vendors improved their products since then. That's it
While all this is true it is not clear to me why would you give credit to Apple for improving the fingerprint sensors. A trip version was not that good not because Motorola screwed it up but because the sensors (and phone CPUs) were not that good at the time. Sensor vendors improved their products since then. That's it
I was basing it off Tim Cook said, and the recent article about AirPods suppliers increasing production capacity.
Those Android phone owners will have no choice but adopt to wireless in 2017 and 2018 when their beloved headphone jack is gone.
As I said, I personally believe wireless is the future. I've love to see if I'm right in a few years. Right now, we are going through a transition to wireless. 2016 was all about laying the groundwork for whats to come in the future.
might be ancient but it works perfectly well. i'd love to see it back.Headphone jacks are so dead and ancient, I'm so over that but I do agree with you on the unnecessary thinness of the phone. Thinness doesn't always mean innovation.