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I knew I wasn't on crack or some other drug.
Again, not stating this is 100% fact, but I distinctly remember hearing about this version of events.

It is nor fact, there were TWO kind of prototypes, the WMesque ones and touch only ones.

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Rotten apple is the biggest patent troll ever to be surfaced out of the business world in the history of capitalism.

Every year and I mean literally; apple sues some poor company over ridiculous patent settlement ever.

I wouldn't be surprised if their own revenue is mostly comprised of money they got from suing other companies.

You're joking, don't you?
 
I'd rather be in the hospital that touch or even look at that disgrace of an device. BTW that more like 2004 not 2002 since its a color screen device.

Color screen devices were around before 2002. I would know, I had one.

I had a Pocket PC from 2005 ( I think ).

And everything an iPhone could do at launch. It could do it better, and faster than an iPhone
 
so so much as an opinion but a fact. Apple knows full out and well that MS has a huge number of software patents and if Apple trys to sue Microsoft with is crapents they would be hit by a lot more from MS.

Apple is the biggest patent troll out there right now using crapents left and right.

If I recall, the Apple vs Microsoft argument was already played out in court long ago. Apple was Jobs, Gates, Woz and created the windows type personal PC i.e.; the macintosh which then became famous much to the chagrin of IBM which only operated on DOS. Gates left the partnership and created Windows based on the Apple windows system & OS. so that DOS /IBM computers could operate with a desktop like a mac..ie: windows. Unfortunately for Jobs, he did not patent the software but had only patented the hardware, so Jobs lost his action suit against Gates and Microsodft Windows was born. The rest is history.. Nevertheless, both were pioneers and friends/shareholders of Apple stock in the end.
 
I have the feeling that Apple's thermonuclear moment against Google is fast reaching ground zero. And as well it should because Google's Nexus 7 tablet, designwise, is a blatant cheat of the iPad and iPhone casing. It takes tremendous courage and confidence for Apple to raise all these injunctions a mere few months before the launch of the new iPhone. I hope the courts rule in Apple's favor. IP needs all the protection it can get both from domestic and foreign competitors. And by the way, cheating and copying is not competition but fakery and cowardice. The real, undisputed spirit of competition is innovation, originality, singularity and such attributes.

How about the Kindle Fire? The RIM Playbook? The HP TouchPad? Did they all rip-off the iPad? If you'd ask me, the Nexus 7 is more Kindle Fire-y than the iPad. Why? It's designed to compete with the Kindle Fire, not the iPad. Explain how the Nexus 7 "blatantly" rips off the iPad?

Oh that's right, you can't have anything rectangular with rounded corners.
 
It boggles the mind how Apple who uses Samsung's products IE Screens,SSDs etc in their own Macbook's and relies on them very heavily for these products can also be Samsung's own worst enemy.

I am going to sue the pants off you but lets remain great business partners .


I love Apple and Samsung for the record and i have no ill will towards Android either as competition is a good thing for all of us.
 
Are you saying that the iPhone was the first showing a grid of icons? Really?

Ah, and the home screen in an Android is very different from an iPhone, it can be totally empty, it can have only widgets or it can have icons.



This is not an iPhone thing, is a lot prior to the iPhone



You're the one claiming that Android has stolen iOs or that it is a rip off.

Apples claiming that not me. You asked what think is being stolen or copied. I gave examples. I'm not in the know of what Apple knows/doesn't know to be stolen or copied. I've repeatedly stated that, "its for the courts to decide". I don't know who or whom owns what patents for which parts are being accused of being infringed upon by any party involved. I am stating that if any party felts as though there IP is being infringed upon. They have a right to fight it in court and prove as such. If your asking my opinion I stated that "well the whole phone". Which you state is inaccurate. Well, Apple feels otherwise (Steve Jobs), and they get to fight that our in court.
 
If your asking my opinion I stated that "well the whole phone". Which you state is inaccurate.
Seriously, how can you claim that they have "copied the whole phone". How are we suppose to interpret that? If literally, then you are claiming that an Android phone is a direct clone of an iPhone, which clearly is false. If figuratively you must mean that "a lot of features were copied", then which features exactly, can you finally explain that or will you keep hiding behind the vaguest of possible arguments?
 
It boggles the mind how Apple who uses Samsung's products IE Screens,SSDs etc in their own Macbook's and relies on them very heavily for these products can also be Samsung's own worst enemy.

I am going to sue the pants off you but lets remain great business partners .


I love Apple and Samsung for the record and i have no ill will towards Android either as competition is a good thing for all of us.

Apple is Samsung's customer and Samsung the supplier for some components for Apple. Patent disputes on proprietary products are a separate issue that they will resolve in court. It's not personal, its just business and clarification needed between two companies that compete on some levels.
 
Actually, Apple has been increasing their market share in the PC market, in the phone market, and in the smartphone market year after year.

Where are you getting those informations? LOL. :D

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/0...s-to-61-in-the-u-s-during-q1-ios-drops-to-29/

Apple has lost a huge smartphone market share.

Misinformation is bad. Get your sources properly so you don't post BS.

As for desktop market share, those sources get vendor's pre-built PC's sales.
Yes, Apple has been selling more than before, but it's still behind companies like HP (http://www.appleinsider.com/article...et_as_apple_takes_106_of_us_pc_shipments.html).
Also, please don't forget that PC's aren't exclusively pre-built machines like Macs.
Many people (I mean, A LOT of people) prefer to build their PCs by buying spare parts separately and assembling the machine by themselves.

At last, maybe this says something to you: http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
That's a worldwide market share, not only US market share.
 
Apple doesn't care about overall marketshare.


They are more concerned with dominating the high ASP (Avg Selling Price) markets. So HP sells more computers because they're pounding out low margin dreck but when you look at the computer sales above $1000 where the margin is Apple is cleaning house with probably 65% share or better

Oops I was too conservative the number is likely 90%

http://betanews.com/2009/07/22/apple-has-91-of-market-for-1-000-pcs-says-npd/

Same process is happening with iOS. Apple doesn't care for the low end. Even a free 3GS on contract nets Apple $400.

That's why they have 100 bil in the bank and can afford to sue Samsung silly if they want to. They have the patents, money and influence.
 
Where are you getting those informations? LOL. :D

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/0...s-to-61-in-the-u-s-during-q1-ios-drops-to-29/

Apple has lost a huge smartphone market share.

Misinformation is bad. Get your sources properly so you don't post BS.

As for desktop market share, those sources get vendor's pre-built PC's sales.
Yes, Apple has been selling more than before, but it's still behind companies like HP (http://www.appleinsider.com/article...et_as_apple_takes_106_of_us_pc_shipments.html).
Also, please don't forget that PC's aren't exclusively pre-built machines like Macs.
Many people (I mean, A LOT of people) prefer to build their PCs by buying spare parts separately and assembling the machine by themselves.

At last, maybe this says something to you: http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
That's a worldwide market share, not only US market share.

well thats like comparing Apples and Oranges. Those are market shares for OS used, not companies. Compare Apple's shares in relation to all the PC makers, then calculate each co's share in the market.

In a perfect world PC would operate on mac OS and Mac would be as buildable as a PC IMO
 
"We have to let go of this notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. We have to embrace a notion that for Apple to win, Apple has to do a really good job. And if others are going to help us that's great, because we need all the help we can get, and if we screw up and we don't do a good job, it's not somebody else's fault, it's our fault. " - Steve Jobs

I'm not even sure if Jobs actually meant it when he said that. Maybe it was a brief moment of enlightenment that was slowly eroded by his victim character.

He didn't mean it, just like 90% of the *****e he said on stage. As someone earlier said he was nothing more than a used car salesmen. A damn good one, but nothing more.

If it was a major feature then sure fair enough ask questions. Apple are trying to create a monopoly. They will find the other manufacturers starting to collaborate before long then they could be in trouble.

I wish they would just spend the money on improving their own products instead of running scared of the competition.
 
He didn't mean it, just like 90% of the *****e he said on stage. As someone earlier said he was nothing more than a used car salesmen. A damn good one, but nothing more.

If it was a major feature then sure fair enough ask questions. Apple are trying to create a monopoly. They will find the other manufacturers starting to collaborate before long then they could be in trouble.

I wish they would just spend the money on improving their own products instead of running scared of the competition.

I doubt anyone is running scared from anyone be it Microsoft or Apple. However these are times of flux and believe that both Apple and Microsoft are redefining their future.
 
Apple doesn't care about overall marketshare.


They are more concerned with dominating the high ASP (Avg Selling Price) markets. So HP sells more computers because they're pounding out low margin dreck but when you look at the computer sales above $1000 where the margin is Apple is cleaning house with probably 65% share or better

Oops I was too conservative the number is likely 90%

http://betanews.com/2009/07/22/apple-has-91-of-market-for-1-000-pcs-says-npd/

Same process is happening with iOS. Apple doesn't care for the low end. Even a free 3GS on contract nets Apple $400.

That's why they have 100 bil in the bank and can afford to sue Samsung silly if they want to. They have the patents, money and influence.

Very true. But how does help you or the average PC or Smartphone consumer?
 
Color screen devices were around before 2002. I would know, I had one.

I had a Pocket PC from 2005 ( I think ).

And everything an iPhone could do at launch. It could do it better, and faster than an iPhone
Please put down what ever you are on because that sounds like you are delusional.
 
Very true. But how does help you or the average PC or Smartphone consumer?

Well it doesn't. Just like a Mercedes is too expensive for the average consumer Apple focuses on the high end..like Alienwares, MainGear...
 
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