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Apple Wins Injunction Barring U.S. Sales of Samsung Galaxy Nexus Phone

G4DP said:
He didn't mean it, just like 90% of the *****e he said on stage. As someone earlier said he was nothing more than a used car salesmen. A damn good one, but nothing more.

If it was a major feature then sure fair enough ask questions. Apple are trying to create a monopoly. They will find the other manufacturers starting to collaborate before long then they could be in trouble.

I wish they would just spend the money on improving their own products instead of running scared of the competition.
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It's the fit and finish of both the machines and the OS that keeps me running with Apple products. Internally, nothing more than chips and boards, the same that all the other OEM's use. And of late, it seems that many Apple product have issues out of the gate: screen issues, stability etc. (27" iMacs, MBP's, Retina MBP's, iPhone 4S battery performance, etc). If you are really honest about it, there is not much value in Apple hardware. Software and functionality, that's another story. I've built a Hackintosh for grins that ran rings around any Mac I've used for 1/2 the cost, but at the end of the day it was hardly a smooth process. Fun for a hobby, not for a production machine.

Obviously there are patents involved that Apple legal is choosing to leverage, and like it or not that's the world we live in. I wonder though if it creates more ill will towards Apple than engendering brand loyalty.

For the first time since I bought the first iPhone, I held a smartphone in my hands recently that made me want something other than an iPhone: The Galaxy Note. It's huge, some like that and some do not, but the screen was nothing short of stunning, fit and finish were fantastic and it was unbelievably fast. Will I switch: no, I've invested plenty of money into i-Apps and the platform does all I want it to. But I am hoping for a significant jump in screen size for the iPhone 5.
 
Just a thought

I'm for competition, as well.

In this situation, Apple's lawsuit is good for competition. If they win, or have valid points, it forces the competition to be more original...just as competition in the marketplace keeps prices and choices maximized for consumers.

You can't have it both ways. It seems that the competition argument constantly favors the less innovative. If apple wins, it shows that the competition needs to be more inventive, that's all.

More inventiveness, better for us.
 
Just purchased Galaxy Nexus!

Well I just purchased a Galaxy Nexus. Hopefully it ships before this block goes into effect.

I will however be putting off my purchase of a new macbook air (which I really want) until I see where this is going.

If apple kills all competing smartphone business (by basically making any innovative and interesting software features impossible for competitors to implement) I don't think I want to support a company like that. Which is a shame because they make great products and really shouldn't be so worried about google or samsung.

PS. google had voice search capabilities built into its phones long before apple released siri. I know because I'm looking at one of these phones right in front of me running outdated gingerbread. They are just enhancing this already present functionality in their newest phones.

Now S-voice I can't comment on. Samsung is on its own there. But please apple leave the Galaxy Nexus alone!
 
Tom Sawyer said:
It's the fit and finish of both the machines and the OS that keeps me running with Apple products. Internally, nothing more than chips and boards, the same that all the other OEM's use. And of late, it seems that many Apple product have issues out of the gate: screen issues, stability etc. (27" iMacs, MBP's, Retina MBP's, iPhone 4S battery performance, etc). If you are really honest about it, there is not much value in Apple hardware. Software and functionality, that's another story. I've built a Hackintosh for grins that ran rings around any Mac I've used for 1/2 the cost, but at the end of the day it was hardly a smooth process. Fun for a hobby, not for a production machine.

Obviously there are patents involved that Apple legal is choosing to leverage, and like it or not that's the world we live in. I wonder though if it creates more ill will towards Apple than engendering brand loyalty.

For the first time since I bought the first iPhone, I held a smartphone in my hands recently that made me want something other than an iPhone: The Galaxy Note. It's huge, some like that and some do not, but the screen was nothing short of stunning, fit and finish were fantastic and it was unbelievably fast. Will I switch: no, I've invested plenty of money into i-Apps and the platform does all I want it to. But I am hoping for a significant jump in screen size for the iPhone 5.
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I think an issue with many.. combined with mac seeming to disregard their core base of old, perhaps the old Apple co. was no more after Steve passed. loyalty should run both ways. So many are watching and adjusting if need be.
 
G51989 said:
Uh oh !

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Touch Screen, Menu's and buttons that you TOUCH.

HOLY ****ING SHITBALLS. ROUNDED EDGES TO!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

OH MY GOD.

THEY COPIED APPLE.

In 2002...
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Start Menu? Where is the start menu on the iPhone? In fact, where are the menus in the iPhone? The iPhone does not use traditional menus in the interface. It uses buttons, dialog boxes and callouts from some buttons but no menus.

That phone is designed around the windows interface shrunk down while the iPhone took a fresh approach to UIs which have been copied. You are getting things a bit confused. The behaviour and operation/workflow of the iPhone was a distinct departure from previous "smart" phones. The preference app in iOS uses cascading pages instead of a "menu". It is a different concept that Apple brought into the smartphone space.

PS.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/android-before-and-after-the-iphone/
 
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coldmack said:
Please put down what ever you are on because that sounds like you are delusional.
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Hmmm...Pocket PC.

GPS ( iPhone didn't have that at launch, it STILL doesn't inculd turn by turn )
MMS ( iPhone didn't have that when it came out )
TV out ( iPhone never had that )
3G ( iPhone didn't have that )

And pretty much everything else.

You must be to young to remember the pocket PC.
 
Saturn1217 said:
If apple kills all competing smartphone business (by basically making any innovative and interesting software features impossible for competitors to implement) I don't think I want to support a company like that. Which is a shame because they make great products and really shouldn't be so worried about google or samsung.

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That's not happening. Samsung and HTC are being sued because they tend to appropriate people's designs a bit too much. Apple's not being the big meany.

Call me a jingoist bastard but America needs to dominate Technology and being subservient to companies like Samsung and HTC would be an embarrassment.
 
coolbreeze said:
Apple sees Google's OS and $349 unlocked price and sues everything in sight. They see a major threat and go for the jugular legal-wise. Psst: it's called competition.

Sigh. Apple seems to want nobody to push them with competing products. Their basis for this is far-reaching...google is a search company, of course their phone software will perform basic and advanced search functions (including voice). They really need to chill out with all this suing crap. It's tacky.

I'm honestly considering selling my iPad and Macbook out of principle. I'm quickly losing respect for Apple's management. They are behaving like children. It's hard to support a company that quickly moves to stifle competition and innovation.

The Galaxy Nexus is an amazing device and Jelly Bean is a superb OS. Apple knows this and they are scrambling to eliminate competition.
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BUT...

If Google did infringe on patents, then Apple is in every way right to sue as much as they like. That's why they got the patet, eh? To prevent things like this.

If someone stole your idea and used it to make money for themselves and ended up becoming more popular than you, you would be mad too, right?
 
G51989 said:
Ugh, Mac's Start at 599.

The Laptops start at 1K.

Hardly high end.
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the 17" starts at $1500, spec it like a macbookpro your easily over $3000 for the Maingear or more if you max it out $5000?, and easy for rmbp to spec over $4,000
 
gnasher729 said:
Actually, Apple has been increasing their market share in the PC market, in the phone market, and in the smartphone market year after year.
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The Mac will never sell as well or compete with the PC. It NEVER has and it NEVER will. More PC's were sold Last year than computers Apple has made during its entire existence

BTW: I own 7 Macs atm, its not like I hate them.


People don't feel like paying a ton of money for old tech.

The best video card apple offers is a 6000 series MOBILE?

What a ****ing joke.

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aristotle said:
Start Menu? Where is the start menu on the iPhone? In fact, where are the menus in the iPhone? The iPhone does not use traditional menus in the interface. It uses buttons, dialog boxes and callouts from some buttons but no menus.

That phone is designed around the windows interface shrunk down while the iPhone took a fresh approach to UIs which have been copied. You are getting things a bit confused. The behaviour and operation/workflow of the iPhone was a distinct departure from previous "smart" phones. The preference app in iOS uses cascading pages instead of a "menu". It is a different concept that Apple brought into the smartphone space.

PS.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/android-before-and-after-the-iphone/
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BTW: I was being pretty sarcastic.
 
If this were the case over the square icons in TouchWiz and the very iPhone 3G esque original Galaxy S, I would say *yes* Samsung "ripped off Apple." That was a clear case of copying and everyone could see it.

This, on the other hand is petty.

And to clarify, this injunction is based solely on the universal search patent. The judge found that the other patents probably did infringe, but that they did not do "irreparable harm."
 
G51989 said:
Ok, tons of PC laptops cost that much.

My laptop was around 7,000 dollars after tax. And its an Alienware.

Does that Mean Apple is low end crap?
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Nope, PC's can run as high than a mac like the macpro. None at that level are junk. Apple does not sell desktops at $500 or laptops at $300 though especially when specced adequately. Each have their own merit.
 
G51989 said:
The Mac will never sell as well or compete with the PC. It NEVER has and it NEVER will. More PC's were sold Last year than computers Apple has made during its entire existence.
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Doesn't change the fact that Apple's market share has been growing year after year after year. And "never" is a very long time :)

And right now Apple sells more computers every quarter than any single companies sells PCs.


davidcmc said:
Apple has lost a huge smartphone market share.

Misinformation is bad. Get your sources properly so you don't post BS.
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Exactly, don't post ********. I said "Apple's market share has been growing year after year". Many of Apple's products are seasonal; the market share doesn't grow every quarter. Now compare Apple's market share this year with Apple's market share the year before.
 
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"The judge concluded that Apple would suffer irreparable harm in the form of significant lost market share if sales of the competitive Galaxy Nexus..."


This is embarrassing for Apple. They are crying that the lemonade stand down the street, which uses water, lemons and sugar, is a better tasting and more popular drink than their lemonade.

Quite funny actually. They finally have a legit competitor and they are crying foul.

I wish them the best with their childish cries for help. Google's got their number and it's gonna get ugly.
 
gnasher729 said:
Doesn't change the fact that Apple's market share has been growing year after year after year. And "never" is a very long time :)

And right now Apple sells more computers every quarter than any single companies sells PCs.




Exactly, don't post ********. I said "Apple's market share has been growing year after year". Many of Apple's products are seasonal; the market share doesn't grow every quarter. Now compare Apple's market share this year with Apple's market share the year before.
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Yes, but most of the PC makers aren't close to as huge as Apple.

But, the nice thing about PC's, is that you have a choice of companies to buy from, or you can build your own. And if your running Windows, you have the largest software ecosystem in the world, pretty tempting.

As much as I like my Macs, you get outdated hardware, you get no choice, and they drop support randomly. Not good
 
I WAS the one said:
steve jobs own words the day he presented the iPhone: "boy, we patented it"

What do you think? Patents are just for paperwork and forget about it? Apple has the right legally right to do that!
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Apple has indeed full right to do it. But a part of AAPL success is that this is a "cool" brand...
These injunctions do not sound cool at all unless there are afraid of not being able to keep up pace and good work. This is the kind of move who makes me think twice about buying AAPL again in the future though I reckon I am not one of these stupid fanboys...

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Peace said:
Tell me something. Theoretically.

If I changed my username to twixt and started posting things you didn't like would you consider that to be good competition for everyone ?
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That is theoretically brilliant concept...
 
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