I moved from a 4S to Galaxy Nexus and have exactly the same opinion.
He's comparing iOS to ICS.
So if you would be surprised if there were major similarities, why on Earth did Apple win this injunction?
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So if you would be surprised if there were major similarities, why on Earth did Apple win this injunction?
It is common knowledge that Eric stole confidential details of iOS from the Time on Apple's BOD, and brought them back to Google. This was a massive breach of trust on Eric's part. You would never see someone like Larry Elision
do that to Steve. Eric and Larry were equally close to Steve during Eric's time on Apple's BOD.
People can say what they want about Steve. He was no angel. However, if you were allowed into his world and broke the trust ( research Buddhism )
it was no different than taking a part of his sole.
So, do a little more research on what happened. You can even use a Galaxy 2 10.1 if you'll feel better.
Android will die a slow death. WIN8 Mobile will be the final nail.
No dreams here.
Here is where your argument breaks down. It was common knowlege Google bought android and was planning on making a phone well before Eric was invited onto Apples BOD. Chances are Apple wanted Eric because Google was making a phone.
Also Eric kept himself out of anything at Google dealing with Android to avoid Apple being able to scream he stole trade secrets. Then he started leaving and not taking part in anything dealing with the iPhone.
On top of all that do you really thing BOD gets all the little details. They get big picture stuff but not the day to day stuff.
It comes down to Apple fanboys trying to twist the truth and BS.
You see the problem I have with that is as far as I know Samsung have not yet been convicted of anything. The judge in this case has decided that they are guilty until proved innocent.
I think you have high aspirations for the patent system. As far as I can see it's mostly used as a way of stifling competition. Large wealthy companies like Apple with mega budgets can patent the hell out of anything and everything. The vast majority of Apple patents never see the light of day. Other companies could take inspiration from those patents and develop the products.
I think Dyson is a good example. There are many bagless vacuum cleaners now some of which look like the Dyson. I don't see Dyson suing any of them because Dyson's patents are all related to very the detailed technical inner workings of their product. I can accept the need to patent that.
But this case is all about Apple saying boo hoo they built a product that looks just like ours. Yeah so freaking what! Most laptops look the same, most TVs look the same, etc, etc. Apple should be suing Google not Samsung if they believe the inner workings of Android have stolen any code or specific patents from iOS. Look how many times Apple's court cases have been thrown out and each time it's because the judge has found that Apple's claims are too broad and non specific.
I know what's going on here. Apple is trying to stifle the competition in the hope that they can obtain a stranglehold on the tablet market before anyone else can establish a foothold, just like they did with the iPod. And look what happened there, once Apple had their 70% market share, Apple simply soaked the market for it's worth, there was very little product innovation and choice just frittered away to a few companies like Philips willing to hang on in there.
If the tablet is the future of the computer then it should not be dominated by any one company.
You do realize, some Android users do own or owned an Android device and iOS devices. Or maybe the know an Apple Mac and an Android device, after all this is MacRumors. For example, I own a iPhone, iPad, and an Android tablet, along with an array of Macs.
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How do you know that?
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Fixed.
Mac users who have Android phones are spending an awful lot of time on the iPhone forums (mostly to defend Androids and bash the iPhone).
The patents aren't really the issue, apple is looking to protect what it sees as companies stealing their intellectual developments.
The problem comes with the way rights and patents are made etc, not the way in which they are enforced.
It's too easy to copy a products look and feel and even advertisements these days without being slapped on the wrists.
These days a company show have those rights or at least a system not based on patents as they are just more like loose ideas than unique ways of achieving technical goals.
The problem comes with the way rights and patents are made etc, not the way in which they are enforced.
It's too easy to copy a products look and feel and even advertisements these days without being slapped on the wrists.
These days a company show have those rights or at least a system not based on patents as they are just more like loose ideas than unique ways of achieving technical goals.
the more I read about claims that AApl wants to monopolize *the market* the more it seems that Google faces more anti trust lawsuits world wide and patent warfare. Seems that if anyone is seeking dominance it would be Google?
the link below is a general look on which sectors google is in and the *competition*
http://gigaom.com/2012/06/27/google-vs-everyone/
No ... according to BLOOMBERG! Are you chellenging my comments OUT of context?! I did NOT say Apple "has more sales than Microsoft in the pc space", nor did I state "Microsoft in loosing in the PC space". I simply stated their loosing sales and thus revenue to users that choose to use OSX/Apple over WinTel. I did NOT say its significant enough for Microsoft to re-organize all their business structure.
I KNOW just how secure Microsoft is - and they make MORE on the server platforms (SQL/Exchange/Server/etc), while Windows (PC market) is used to sustain and server those platforms (enterprise and the consumer market).
what you CANNOT deny ... in the PC market ... OSX and Apple are BOTH their biggest competitor (Linux distro's combined, nor Unix, or other compare), and amongst their largest consumer. THAT is what I stated. Please stop taking my posts out of conext.
Although Samsung has a right to compete, it does not have a right to compete unfairly, by flooding the market with infringing products.
Judge Koh deals next blow to Samsung, denies all 12 of its summary judgment requests
Judge Koh deals next blow to Samsung, denies all 12 of its summary judgment requests
I read an article last night that mentioned Gates knew that a *wave* was coming that could un-seat M$. It was about future cloud servers and internet service providers and software development companies.. some rumors seem to think that was a reason for Gates leaving.
As far as M$ and its OS its a big income maker obviously but they also own 20 other products services that make multiple billions. Appl is not the main competitor to M$ . If anything I'm starting to believe that Google, Android is M$ biggest threat.. and threat to many other companies.
article below is related to what google faces and why perhaps all the patent wars are escalating.
http://gigaom.com/2012/06/27/google-vs-everyone/
Really? Which is why PowerPC Macs? Some of which are only 6-7 years old.... don't get updates....nothing new runs on them, never get security fixes either.
Oh yeah, those early Intel Macs are screwed when 10.8 hits.
Where as a windows box, even if its 10 years old, still gets supported.
I see. Not in my case but if you say so. I got a original iPhone here, still in use and working a charme. Then I got a iPhone 3GS, one of my kids is using that. I use private a 4s and for my work a Moto Defy (Android latest update 2.2.2) and I can see major diffrences in performance and funktions between the systems.
Many funktions of the same OS are not funktioning or are not even there between the 3GS and the 4s, the original iPhone can not even run the system itself but is snappy like on its first day.
The Android phone, shipping with 2.1 and a year late got the uptate to 2.2.2 so its only 5 Generations behind now (no, its not for hardware reasons like with the original iPhone but purely to make you buy new phones) is not comming close to the original iPhone, never mind the 3GS. It is not capable to sync, not capable to perform a decent backup, got permanent hardware problems (ear peace is bleeping out, on three different replacements)
You can see with the Android System that they are trying to make it look and work like iOS but it just stops short.you do not get a smooth performance, even thou the Moto hardware is far superior to the 3GS, but it can not handle several things at once, the wLan is worse then anything I found even in 10 year old Nokias, it can not memorize several different IP and subnet settings only one profile or dhcp and even between those it can not change without manual input.
The inverted look (white text on black backround) is not very pleasing but it probably has the same reason why Windows a long tome ago put there task bar on the botom and the icons to the left instead to the top and the icons to the right. It had to be different then the competition. Maybe Version 2.3 is better, I will never know, Motorola stopped the support while still under waranty, Version 4 is suppose to be even better, but I know nobody having that system yet, after all, its out since last year but nobody seem to really put it out yet. Now there is 4.1 coming out and again all existing phones will be left in the cold, so who knows?
Our next phones will be iPhone 5 or 4s at work, whatever they have in October, we had simply too many problems with the Android phones. Even if you blame Motorola and not Android, the System seems to work on other brands the same and the total lack of support gave it the rest.
The lawsuit goes against the Nexus, running 4.0 or 4.1, so evidently there must be similarities between iOS 5.1 and Android 4.1.Very few people had the oportunity to compare both systems as the Nexus itself is very elusive and 4.0 or 4.1 are on so few devices (never mind 800000 activated devices a day, they mainly running old software) that we may never know the better if a court is stopping it. We will see.
As a consumer I just want to have a working system that integrates well into my existing system, iOS is really good at that. Android might work well with Linux Systems (after all, its based on it?) I can't say anything about that. Microsoft got a really different aproach, good for them, problem there seems to be, that nobody wants it.
IOS works great in Windows and Mac worlds and as my father always said, never change a running system.
I'm sorry .... but I can speak with first hand that many phones prior to Apple iPhone Original had auto correct.
BlackBerry 7290/8800/8820/8830/ .. Pearl 7100/8100
Ericsson T39m/T36m,
HP iPaq 6300 series
SE P800/P900/P910 UIQ phones.
SE K700/750/W810i
Motorola Q9m (GSM model)
So many other smartphones/feature phones that have had auto correct.
The key thing with iPhone is once a name is saved and used for future auto-correction options, you CANNOT remove it.
Yea I am a little bitter as a G5 iMac owner without the money to spend on a new computer...
Just to let you know - the first generation of Intel Macs is currently screwed, as Apple decided to give us a 32bit Processor called Core Duo - which was quite a slap in the face when 64 bit was the writing on the wall...
...and is not supported by Lion.
Nope, I cannot install Lion on my 6yr old Intel Mac.
If Nike were like Apple they should have sued Apple for the Mackbook Air since Nike used Air well before Apple did.
Do many words that have nothing to do with the original conversation just because you don't want to accept that you were wrong denying that iOS on an 3GS is the same than iOS on the 4S.
Ah, and Android 4.0 and 4.1 doesn't look like iOS.
Still waiting for those things that Android has stolen from iOS
Honestly - first of all - all major recent Android phones have a ICS firmware ready - it is just due to the carriers to roll it out. Just FYI one excerpt from Samsung's website http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
Second Android behaves way better as iOS when syncing over multiple devices. Why? Because you have everything in the cloud. Sounds familiar, eh?
Actually Google had Documents, Calendars, Contacts and so on in the cloud for a long time. And interaction with a PC/Mac: What do you want more then direct access to the storage system via USB (which is not allowed on the iPhone)?
I think it's really comfortable to mount the SD drive and just copy folders to it. ;-)
I don't really mind that.
What I DO mind, and is that programs like iBooks Author are released as Lion only, yet all I have to do is edit one text string and it runs perfectly on my SL machine. If MS did that, posters here would rip them for it. But it's Apple so all the FB's look the other way and make excuses. The best is that there's no reason to run SL because Lion is only $30.... ignoring that I have programs that don't run on Lion, making it a very expensive and pointless upgrade for me.
I've been a member a lot longer than you have and all I see is someone who saw a subject which compelled him or her to join the forum. Just because the views expressed differ from yours does not make him a troll. Grow up.
Not at all. First, this is a civil case. There is no "guilty until proven innocent". In a civil case, one side _must_ win, one side _must_ lose. When in doubt, the judge has to decide for one side. This is unlike a criminal case, where in doubt, the judge must not convict the accused. Say we are drivers of two cars in a car crash, where somebody got hurt. The injury could be a criminal case. Even when it is obvious that one of us caused the accident, if there is no evidence which one of us did it, we both are let go. But in the civil case which one of us has to pay the other's damages, one has to win, and one has to lose.
In a case like this, the judge says "I'm sure I'll make the right decision in the end, but if I make the right decision for A and against B in a years time, then A will suffer damages because of that delay which is obviously not fair. On the other hand, if I order B to stop what they are doing now, and in the end I decide for them, that isn't right either. So I make a preliminary decision whether I think A is likely to succeed or not. If they are likely to succeed, I can order B to stop right now, but only if A puts up a bond to pay damages to B if I decide against A in the end. A doesn't have to put up a bond, in which case B can continue until the time I decide".
That's just basic fairness, and that is how it works in about every country. After all, by going for the injunction, Apple takes the risk that they might end up having to pay damages to Samsung in the end. In the end, either Samsung loses - then this injunction avoids the unfairness that Samsung can continue until the court case ends. Or Samsung wins - then they can send Apple the bill for the losses caused by the injunction.
Strawman. Sports shoes vs. computers. Completely different markets. No way that Nike would sue, and no way that they wouldn't be laughed out of court if they did.
But it was you that stated that only you want to decide what to buy? With other words, the consumer decides?
Well, you got over 70 different tablet models to choose from in the UK. If you shop online and include china, you get close to a hundred.
8 of those are the different iPad models. Why are "the consumers" not buying the other models? Why ist "tablet" the same then "iPad"? Apples fault? How? Apple sells in the upper price range, 90% of the competition is cheaper. According to there marketing, at least half are better then the iPad, still, over 40 Million iPad buyers seem to think different. Apple aquires a million new "fanboys" a week, that simply can not be true.
So why are tablet buyers not buying the other devices? Are they all waiting for a $1000 surface?