Apple Withholds Republican Convention Donations Over Trump Politics

[nick42983]

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with big companies giving free stuff and money to any political party's convention.

Looking forward to your comments and criticism toward's Google running the Clinton campaign, your candidate of choice.

 

[KPOM]

Or maybe they simply did what previous Secretaries of State did and moved on to more important things. Her own emails show she isn't savvy about electronics and computers in any way. She had to ask for help to do the simplest things on her gadgets. That's why she was trying to make things simpler for herself. And we all know the gov's systems are archaic and anyone who has had to deal with over-engineered, outdated corporate computer systems (that don't actually have the security they think they do) knows they make it extremely hard to get work done efficiently.

That's extremely generous to Clinton. She supposedly asked for a secure BlackBerry like what Obama got and was told no. At that point she went out of her way to hire someone to set up a private e-mail server. No previous SoS did that, despite the spin that comes from her campaign. By 2009, the State Department had a working e-mail system.

 

[gnasher729]

I know Trump's a bad guy, but he will not torture and kill millions of Jews and other groups. Nobody compares to Adolf Hitler.

That's what they thought about Hitler in 1933.

 

[nick42983]

More social conditioning from the liberal left wing political agenda.

Why don't any conservatives have any socially influential technology empires and entertainment monopolies?

I guess they want to turn off half the world to buying their products.

The attempt at social brainwashing doesnt fool me and it strikes me as unprofessional from a tech company. They have lost a lot of my respect due to inappropriate political agendas.

The "political agendas" are their religion Bob. Leftists identify with progressive poltics in the same way that Catholics identify with the Church dogma, or Muslims with Koranic teachings. The difference is that leftists lie about their beliefs and pretend to be reasonable are objective. They either delude themselves or lie to your face, I think the latter is the more frequent occurence.

 

[KPOM]

He went a step beyond that. He said that the judge is biased because he's Mexican, and should be recused. Trump's own lawyer, on the other hand, claimed that Curiel was doing his job as it should be done, and wouldn't request a recusal.

What has Curiel done besides be Mexican at Trump to assume bias?

He didn't say Curiel would be biased in every case. But it isn't unreasonable to assume that a judge might have a bias because of a political opinion of a person whose case is in his court. The lawyer said what he did because under the law ethnicity is not a valid reason for recusal. Trump was arguing in the court of public opinion. Of course, the argument fell flat there, too.

 

[gnasher729]

Trump is a much worse businessman than he makes himself out to be. But lots of people have been taken in by his blowhard style.

He's always looked after himself. And only after himself. I'm sure his businesses would flourish if he became president. On the other hand, he doesn't give a damn about anyone else.

 

[KPOM]

That's what they thought about Hitler in 1933.

The "Trump is Hitler" argument has gotten old. Nothing in Trump's business career suggests he's anything like Hitler. By 1933 Hitler had written an anti-semitic diatribe and tried to start a military coup against the Weimar government.
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He's always looked after himself. And only after himself. I'm sure his businesses would flourish if he became president. On the other hand, he doesn't give a damn about anyone else.

And you think the Clintons care about anyone else? Look at how they have enriched themselves over the years selling political influence.

 

[Oppenheim]

The "political agendas" are their religion Bob. Leftists identify with progressive poltics in the same way that Catholics identify with the Church dogma, or Muslims with Koranic teachings. The difference is that leftists lie about their beliefs and pretend to be reasonable are objective. They either delude themselves or lie to your face, I think the latter is the more frequent occurence.

The Koran is quite tolerant of lying. Especially to non-believers.

 

[Glideslope]

Man, there is a lot of Bull**** in this thread.

 

[APlotdevice]

The "political agendas" are their religion Bob. Leftists identify with progressive poltics in the same way that Catholics identify with the Church dogma, or Muslims with Koranic teachings. The difference is that leftists lie about their beliefs and pretend to be reasonable are objective. They either delude themselves or lie to your face, I think the latter is the more frequent occurence.

LOL, the only way I would be "lying to your face" is if I said Trump was a decent human being whom I simply disagree with. But no, I will tell it as it is: He's dog ****.
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The Koran is quite tolerant of lying. Especially to non-believers.

Whatever you say Mr Ford.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

It wasn't spot on all he did was shake, he started convulsing. That's not what handicapped people do first of all.

It was only was a short simple shaking motion that lasted at most two seconds and it looked nothing like what an actual handicapped person would do.

Like if someone was making fun of that it would be more of bent hand and more of a tightness of limb and make a concentrated scowl type thing like how kids used to do in school to mock people.

He definately didn't go there.

And even in that screen cap they try to capture his hand being bent but that wasn't what he was mostly doing he was raising his hands in the moment and was shaking saying what he was saying about the supposed liar.

It's just bogus lol.

What's bogus are your attempt to dismiss or explain this away. At no time...let me repeat that...at NO TIME has Trump ever looked that way when talking about any other reporter or anyone else for that matter. So, the question then becomes, why did he mock in that particular way THIS time on that ONE reporter and why do the pictures of the reporter and Trump look so much alike? Hmmmmmmm

You can sit and spin on this all day, but it won't change the facts. Trump know exactly what he was doing. There is no way that was a coincidence. Too convenient.

 

[Mac32]

Apple never donated to Adolf Hitler when he was up for Chancellor of Germany either. So it's no surprise they also withhold from Trump.

That's a moronic argument. Look at what Obama and Hillary did to Libya and Syria (and as a consequence enabled the rise of ISIS and the immigration crisis in Europe), that's your "Hitler".

I shake my heads at the regressive liberals who want open borders with 10 of millions of illegals pouring in. Do you really think a country and its economical and social structures will last, when there are no borders? You liberals have no understanding of economics, society or history.

 

[Renzatic]

He didn't say Curiel would be biased in every case. But it isn't unreasonable to assume that a judge might have a bias because of a political opinion of a person whose case is in his court. The lawyer said what he did because under the law ethnicity is not a valid reason for recusal. Trump was arguing in the court of public opinion. Of course, the argument fell flat there, too.

It isn't unreasonable to assume it's a possibility, but without any other evidence to back it up, that's all it'll ever be.

 

[Naaaaak]

Yes.
You are DEFINITELY racist.

I expressed a viewpoint that in no way mentioned any race. You disagreed and had to throw out the r word. At that point your mind shut down and you thought you had “won”.

Anyone who cannot calmly discuss something without labeling shows evidence of conditioning. You need to examine your influences and thought process.

You are the type of tea party nutjob (if I may borrow your word) that I literally would not stand in the company of in ANY circumstance. I'd leave a party if you were there (jk, I'd NEVER be at a party that someone like you would be welcome!).

You've made assumptions as to who I am based on a few statements. Your mind raced to anger and you associated me with another group you appear to hate (that I've never associated with), again, using labels.

This is more evidence of conditioning.

When you respond to disagreement in such a way, you shut down your mind and you shut down any meaningful discussion. Meaningful discussion means considering the other side and considering your own views in that context. If your viewpoint is so rigid, are you here only to reply to people and repeat your beliefs and insist you are right?

Why don't you try visiting Manhattan, usually considered the "embodiment of America"? You literally could not go a day in that city without hearing myriad languages... it gives the city life & vibrancy!

You again, assume I haven't lived in a culturally diverse city or haven't been exposed to a myriad of languages.

I have. I've lived decades in areas where English was not a first language for many and bilingualism was not uncommon.

It sucks that people like you want to destroy the beauty of that diversity;

I never said this.

Again, this is showing conditioning. You read a statement you disagreed with and built me up to be someone who I am not, even going to far as to respond to something I never said.

I'm only glad that people with as backwards thinking as you are in the minority.

Why is wanting to enforce existing immigration law backwards thinking?
How is it backwards thinking to want to have a more organized and stricter process for legal immigration?

The current casual attitude towards illegal immigration and the exploitation of their labor seems backwards to me.
It seems backwards to me to discourage people from learning the language the vast majority speaks and writes in (English); it sets them up for failure and limits their opportunities.

Please.
Dictate language spoken?? Lol. Fascist much?

If I moved to another country, I would learn their official language (before I moved). I think it's highly unreasonable to expect everyone else to cater to me and I would not want to limit my opportunities.

I don't see how it is fascist to want to have an official language to save time, money, and government resources. Many governments already have official languages and they are not fascist.

We may hold strong opinions and never change them, but we should be able to discuss our opinions and facts supporting them without grandiose stereotypes and labeling. Stereotypes and labeling only leads to political divisiveness and extremism.

 

[gnasher729]

Trump turned one million into one billion. (in other words he took what his dad gave him and multiplied it x1000 times over)

He inherited an estimated $40 to $200 million. A not so clever business man, like me, would have turned that into a billion by putting the money in the bank.

 

[Tycho24]

I expressed a viewpoint that in no way mentioned any race. You disagreed and had to throw out the r word. At that point your mind shut down and you thought you had “won”.

Anyone who cannot calmly discuss something without labeling shows evidence of conditioning. You need to examine your influences and thought process.




You've made assumptions as to who I am based on a few statements. Your mind raced to anger and you associated me with another group you appear to hate (that I've never associated with), again, using labels.

This is more evidence of conditioning.

When you respond to disagreement in such a way, you shut down your mind and you shut down any meaningful discussion. Meaningful discussion means considering the other side and considering your own views in that context. If your viewpoint is so rigid, are you here only to reply to people and repeat your beliefs and insist you are right?




You again, assume I haven't lived in a culturally diverse city or haven't been exposed to a myriad of languages.

I have. I've lived decades in areas where English was not a first language for many and bilingualism was not uncommon.




I never said this.

Again, this is showing conditioning. You read a statement you disagreed with and built me up to be someone who I am not, even going to far as to respond to something I never said.




Why is wanting to enforce existing immigration law backwards thinking?
How is it backwards thinking to want to have a more organized and stricter process for legal immigration?

The current casual attitude towards illegal immigration and the exploitation of their labor seems backwards to me.
It seems backwards to me to discourage people from learning the language the vast majority speaks and writes in (English); it sets them up for failure and limits their opportunities.




If I moved to another country, I would learn their official language (before I moved). I think it's highly unreasonable to expect everyone else to cater to me and I would not want to limit my opportunities.

I don't see how it is fascist to want to have an official language to save time, money, and government resources. Many governments already have official languages and they are not fascist.

We may hold strong opinions and never change them, but we should be able to discuss our opinions and facts supporting them without grandiose stereotypes and labeling. Stereotypes and labeling only leads to political divisiveness and extremism.

Lol, you can stow your faux amazement that I "labeled" you racist. Ummm... that was an answer to your question: "Am I a racist?"
Did you only ask that question so that you could cry victim?
Congrats on CHOOSING to learn another language (in your hypothetical story); there is a difference between that and being FORCED to do so.
Like that's the same difference between consensual sex & rape, yeah?? Whether or not it's forced.
So- to put it bluntly; in the same way that I'm all for sex, but not for rape- I'm all for people in diverse countries speaking the native language of that country, just not for your thought police forcing them to. Make sense?

 

[steve knight]

Man, there is a lot of Bull**** in this thread.

its politics you expect roses?

 

[gnasher729]

Gotta admit, Trump is a virtuoso at the "I'm not saying it's true but I hear it all the time" dog whistle that he can weasel out of when he needs to.

That's surely the man you want as a president. Someone who is too cowardly to put his own name behind what he says.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Because when you want to talk about organizations MOST people are against and shouldn't support, KKK and nazis are the first to come to mind. And if you think the KKK isn't still relevant, you need to wake up. The guy who shot the British parliament member was a member of the US's white nationalist group which is the same as the KKK. And Trump had a white nationalist delegate until people pointed it out and shamed him about it.

I have never seen or met or heard of anyone knowing of any actual real life KKK people that exist in my entire lifetime.

But I see violent extremist BLM terrorist groups bringing them up all the time on TV and in the news.

He inherited an estimated $40 to $200 million. A not so clever business man, like me, would have turned that into a billion by putting the money in the bank.

40million? Wrong. (Or provide unbiased evidence)

Lol did you watch that history channel documentary I posted? He started with a small loan of a million dollars from his father and started making major moves from there, revitalizing NY in the process.

 

[sir1963nz]

Not much different from Hillary.
It's their money. They can do with it as they see fit

Correct.
And the next president of the USA will be among the worst the US has ever had, no matter which candidate gets elected.

 

[Renzatic]

I have never seen or met or heard of anyone knowing of any actual real life KKK people that exist in my entire lifetime.

There was a KKK rally in Anaheim a few months back that ended up with someone getting stabbed. They also marched in protest of Nikki Hayley removing the confederate flag from all government buildings.

They're still around.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

There was a KKK rally in Anaheim a few months back that ended up with someone getting stabbed. They also marched in protest of Nikki Hayley removing the confederate flag from all government buildings.

They're still around.

Never heard of that. Sounds nothing like the real KKK.

It's more like some local rednecks who have a local gang.

Have nothing to do with the actual KKK movement of old times and especially not with white people in general.

I would hardly count that as "still being around."

And especially not grounds to ever bring them up in a debate as ammunition against white people or patriotic people.
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You can sit and spin on this all day, but it won't change the facts. Trump know exactly what he was doing. There is no way that was a coincidence. Too convenient.

There is no way to deduce that from a neutral standpoint.

All you see is reflections of your own hateful agenda trying to create problems out of thin air because you don't agree with the candidate.

 

[Jimmy James]

Tuck Frump

 

[Renzatic]

Never heard of that. Sounds nothing like the real KKK.

It's more like some local rednecks who have a local gang.

That's, uh, pretty much what the KKK was and still is. It's basically like the Rotary Club for ***holes.

 

[amirite]

It terrifies me that people here support Trump.