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Would this trigger a lawsuit of sorts that a TV Remote with auto-location (and many potential future gadgets for that matter such as the iPad pencil, AirPods, keyboards, etc from now on) is anticompetitive because Apple has access to all the tech they have made and it would make it impossible for other companies to make remotes with the exact same features?

On that /s note, I'm down for a new Apple TV with new remote.

Oh, and please don’t bring that white outlining on the button as when buying it separately... or at least make that another color.
The most current Appletv has the white outline around the “menu“ prior to that it was just black, Apple doesn’t sell the older style anymore it’s not white because it’s sold separately It’s just the current model that ships with the Appletv.
 
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I don’t know where my 4K Apple TV remote is. It’s so expensive to replace I’m just waiting for the next Apple TV instead of buying a replacement remote.
At least they dropped it from $79 to $59. Amazon has it for $53. Probably find it for less on a sale. You are likely using the app on the phone or pad in the mean time to remote control the ATV4K. :)

Also you have this new substitute as alternate choice, but I like the pad movement of Apple's.
 
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Apple Remote easily the worst invention Apple has ever made. The entire problem is that it is never usable without looking at it. You need to look at it to know which way is up to use the touchpad. Meanwhile, every other remote in the world is usable without looking at it.

Holy crap did Apple completely fail at user experience design here..

Hoping someday a true design genius at Apple re-realizes that treating consumer product releases as minimalist design contests can finally reach the point of “too much.” Ios7 cough cough.
 
Whats up with you? Seems you just try to post first on whatever rumor there is and collect likes. Is there a hidden game on this website?

I’ve noticed that too. That plus the gross profile pic there’s clearly some attempt at a “brand” going on
 
So weird to read on a technology site about a bunch of people who seem to constantly lose their remote, then don’t understand how to use it once it’s found. 😂🤣

Seriously it’s absolutely ridiculous
 
OMG that remote is beyond frustrating to use. I put a glow in the dark silicon sleeve on my remotes to help me find them and to know without looking which way is up.
 
First of all there is a mute button: long press volume down. Second of all, who mutes things instead of pressing pause? People who watch ads?
Watching sports muted works perfectly fine. So does watching pretty much anything if you are deaf.
 
Yep the amount of times the remote gets last in this house. The record was 3 months. In the end I gave in and bought another and then a few days after the new one arrived it was found. The latest was a week. Found it again last night.
You should just use the Remote app on your phone. I’m guessing you will have your phone with you more often than not. I find it actually really useful.
 
Definitely agree with them going with 8K capability and thus the need for the A14 instead of the old A12 chip.
 
Apple Remote easily the worst invention Apple has ever made. The entire problem is that it is never usable without looking at it. You need to look at it to know which way is up to use the touchpad. Meanwhile, every other remote in the world is usable without looking at it.

Holy crap did Apple completely fail at user experience design here..

I work with blind and low vision people providing Access Technology services. The Apple TV is the most accessible set top box and TV interface overall. The remote is the key tool enabling the blind to access the Apple TV and all the apps that come with it. VoiceOver with the remote is very much like on iOS and blind users knowing VO on iPhone can pick up the remote and fly across the interface.
 
Dear Apple,

Ever since Disney+ came out last year, you have failed to refresh your 3.5-year-old-ancient-AppleTV. I waited and waited and waited patiently to plunk down $199 apiece for 2 new units for our house. Also, the Netflix app was years old and was basically useless unless I knew exactly what I wanted to watch.

Finally, I could wait no longer. I plopped down a whopping $29 for a Roku and I am floored by it's price-for-features as well, of course, it's Disney+ support. Oh, and Netflix is amazing on it.

-An ex-avid AppleTV fan
 
Hopefully the new remote is not made of freakin glass, my 5yr old smashed 3 remotes already, we have concrete floors at home and just dropping the remote from the couch to the floor its enough to smash them....
 
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You should just use the Remote app on your phone. I’m guessing you will have your phone with you more often than not. I find it actually really useful.
I do use the remote app on my phone or Apple Watch most of the time as my kids have usually lost or hidden the remote.
 
Hopefully the new remote is not made of freakin glass, my 5yr old smashed 3 remotes already, we have concrete floors at home and just dropping the remote from the couch to the floor its enough to smash them....

haha..oh no...

I hope not.. Watch the space of Apple remote drop tests with the only difference, we KNOW this will be a bust. All of them would break.
 
Dear Apple,

Ever since Disney+ came out last year, you have failed to refresh your 3.5-year-old-ancient-AppleTV. I waited and waited and waited patiently to plunk down $199 apiece for 2 new units for our house. Also, the Netflix app was years old and was basically useless unless I knew exactly what I wanted to watch.

Finally, I could wait no longer. I plopped down a whopping $29 for a Roku and I am floored by it's price-for-features as well, of course, it's Disney+ support. Oh, and Netflix is amazing on it.

-An ex-avid AppleTV fan
3rd generation Apple TV's, well they are old and no longer get the latest apps.
If you had a 4th generation (HD only) , or Apple TV 4K you wouldn't be complaining as all the apps are kept up to date. If using recent TV's this also would have been a non-issue too. They have the apps. :)
 
Apple Remote easily the worst invention Apple has ever made. The entire problem is that it is never usable without looking at it. You need to look at it to know which way is up to use the touchpad. Meanwhile, every other remote in the world is usable without looking at it.

Holy crap did Apple completely fail at user experience design here..

Thank you! I have been so disappointed with the reports, especially the last one. But people on here alway contradicted when I posted a negative review on it. You are dead right, it was form over anything else. It's like, let's design something that looks nice, but not actually test if it works!

I always thought Apple really should have made their own controller. They could have made so HUGE REVENUE. If only they knew how to make the next amazing controller.
 
If you don't remember which service supplied the show you're looking for, you end up wasting time checking them one by one until you spot it. This is an improvement? WTF.
That's already there. Use the TV app where it brings all apps together so you can look at content rather than apps. Or use search which goes across apps. The down side is it only works with apps that opt in to this. It seems all but Netflix have.

Most everything else you want is up to the app/service provider and not apple.
 
There are indications that a new remote might have buttons instead of the swipe pad. iOS 14 gives you the option to change the TV app to push button arrows instead of swiping. Works well.
 
That's sounds awfully familiar. Remember the people that used to complain when the iPhone first launched. ;)

BuT iT DoESnT hAvE a REAL keYboARD!

I could definitely see how some might find it it a bit intimidating and maybe even unintuitive at first. I certainly felt this way coming from Windows to macOS ten years ago.

And yes, some of those complaining here maybe just don't like it and never will. Though I think there's a fair amount, if we're being honest, that simply haven't taken the time to learn it, and decided it just wasn't what they were used to.

My folks didn't like it either (in their 70's), but after spending 20 minutes showing them everything it can do, they now love it.

To me it feels faster and more fun to navigate my TV and Home with. It's also so convenient to say "Movies" and the lights dim and makes everything cozy.
A phone is something you look at. But I shouldn’t have to look at my remote. It needs tactile buttons. A phone doesn’t.
 
Realityck notes: (snip) "You can buy a ultra expensive Kaleidoscope system if you want download movies for 20 - 40 mins with 200+ Mbps connection with wanting 100 Mbps bit rate content from a large downloaded digital file." (snip)

Being able to accomplish that without shelling out for Kaleidoscope seems like the kind of feature that ATV 5 should offer to justify it's cost vs a ROKU stick. I know people want ATV 5 ASAP, but, IMHO, the crucial metric is capabilities beyond what the current ATV 4 or its competitors provide.

Don't know what the availability/cost metric is for HDMI 2.1 chipsets, but I'd consider an ATV 5 without HDMI 2.1 as a fail - especially if they want to keep the price point in the $150-200 range.
 
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