Pretty easy to do when you’re the mob 👍🏼She has tamed Apple, which nobody has been able to do so far.
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The clue is in the part where she says "how they will make sure it is safe is for them to decide." Not so difficult to understand.
All the derogatory remarks about Vestager are not going to change the fact that she is whipping Apple into shape.
This is what Apple was doing to its customers, suppliers, developers, and others for so long. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, it is pinching them a lot.
Haha nice try. Customers and developers willingly take part in the iOS ecosystem. Suppliers is simple b2b.
We are adults and we know what we’re buying and developing for.
Apple isn’t a government mob and isn’t taking part in this fiasco willingly.
Trying to deal with the EU must feel like talking to a bunch of slow children 😳
You’re really enjoying all the “whipping” — very kinky and power tripping.
We see you.
Her words were actually very difficult to understand. I guess if you speak “EU” it all makes perfect sense 🤷🏻♂️
If developers are willingly taking part in the iOS ecosystem, why are they complaining? Until now, they had no choice.
Bully is being bullied, nice turnaround.
So far we’ve heard from Epic (thrown out for cheating) and Spotify (a monopolist with a failing business model).
Can you to list 10 others out of the millions who are complaining?
How about 5?
How about 3?
Okay just 1 other developer who wants the DMA?
I’ve also asked why Android, with all the features you want, with 3X users, can only generate 50% of the App Store income for developers.
No EU backer has dared step up with an explanation.
What have you got? Maybe ask mommy Vestiger?
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Nice of you to admit this is pure bullying 👍🏼
Why Apple's App Store is under fire
The App Store is one of Apple's most important services, a fast-growing unit that brought in over $46 billion in 2019, accounting for nearly 18% of the company's revenue. Investors see the services business as a growth engine for Apple, and the company has set a public target of $50 billion in...
Just a cursory Google search will throw up hundreds of results.
Coalition for App Fairness Statement on Implementation of EU’s Landmark Digital Markets Act - Coalition for App Fairness
BRUSSELS – Rick VanMeter, Executive Director of the Coalition for App Fairness (CAF), released the following statement as the European Union’s Digital Markets Act (DMA) goes into effect today. “On this pivotal first day of DMA enforcement, it is imperative that the European Commission soundly re
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Bullies understand only bullying. They cannot be reasoned with. There were anti competition laws earlier, but Apple never bothered. So, why is it bothered now? Because they will change only if they are bullied.
So 80 out of over 35 million registered developers.Why Apple's App Store is under fire
The App Store is one of Apple's most important services, a fast-growing unit that brought in over $46 billion in 2019, accounting for nearly 18% of the company's revenue. Investors see the services business as a growth engine for Apple, and the company has set a public target of $50 billion in...www.cnbc.com
Just a cursory Google search will throw up hundreds of results.
Has 80 membersCoalition for App Fairness Statement on Implementation of EU’s Landmark Digital Markets Act - Coalition for App Fairness
BRUSSELS – Rick VanMeter, Executive Director of the Coalition for App Fairness (CAF), released the following statement as the European Union’s Digital Markets Act (DMA) goes into effect today. “On this pivotal first day of DMA enforcement, it is imperative that the European Commission soundly re
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Bullies understand only bullying. They cannot be reasoned with. There were anti competition laws earlier, but Apple never bothered. So, why is it bothered now? Because they will change only if they are bullied.
This is a joke, right?
Just like the EU 👍🏼
This is just one alliance. Did you read the article in the first link?
Never said a commission was part of the developer fee.
If EU can function on 1% of GDP, I think Apple can manage on 2%
How about browsers? Open source apps?
Cydia? I would say it’s the user who uses apple services and not the developer. You can write an app with nothing
Then nothing will change with the freedom granted to the developers and customers
🤷♂️ iOS and android aren’t competitors so it not really relevant.
Ha, I’m preaching freedom for the customer, never said companies would enjoy the same level of freedom.
And I’m not hand waving the potential drawbacks, but I trust competition can do a better job than Apple. Apple isn’t winning in the free market when they explicitly ban competitors in their platform.
That’s deflecting and moving the goalpost. You asked
Uh huh — the article used the word “scores” and mentioned Match group (another failing business model — oops).
So we have Epic, Match, Spotify (the big boys), and the 80 (which probably overlap with the big boys) and then a “scores”.
Then we have the rest of the 35 million.
Good joke, EU 👍🏼
Keep reaching, my dude, keep reaching 😉
The open model is not "demonstrably worse" in general: it has different advantages and disadvantages compared to the closed model, which means one model is better or worse than the other depending on the aspects that one takes into consideration.
What you are arguing is that the closed model is superior in some aspects and this makes it superior, period. That's an actual "logic fail", as you fail to take into account the aspects in which the open model is superior and fail to take into account that different users than you might have different priorities, making those aspects out-weight the negatives for them compared to the closed model.
Furthermore, actually the DMA does not completely remove the closed nature of iOS as an user that prefers it simply has the choice of not installing any third-party app store.
What planet do you live on? More disingenuous lies — sad.
Yes I did ask — and the answer 80 out of 35 million makes the EU look like a joke.
You call it “deflection” — sorry you hate FACTS.
If you think the complaints of 2 millionths of a percent of developers deserves the DMA, then you’re as out of touch as the EU — but we knew that already.
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It is “demonstrably worse” for security, user trust and protecting developers from piracy.
Apple set out to solve those issues with iOS and the App Store with tremendous success for users and developers.
Android is the “open” alternative and has proven far less successful for developers despite having 3X the users.
It’s no wonder Apple is fighting the Androidification of iOS. Why force a flawed model?
Users are adults. They have a choice and know what they’re getting with iOS.
Why don’t you trust users that pick the “closed” model? Very condescending.
Apple doesn’t owe you jack. Just don’t buy the product if you don’t like how it works.
Freedom.
You wanted 5, I showed you 80.
ODA is an Anti-Apple App Developers Association with more than 400 developers.
No longer afraid of retaliation, app developers join forces to criticize Apple
More than 400 companies are seeking to join the anti-Apple coalition, a remarkable outpouring against Apple. For years, developers were reluctant to say anything negative about the tech giant, but that is changing.
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Like I said, they are the major app developers.
In your other post you said match.com is a looser. Btw, match.com whipped Apple in the Dutch ACM antitrust case where it had to pay a weekly $5 million fine until it reached $50 million before it capitulated.
Dutch ACM Upholds its Penalty Order against Apple: Apple’s App Store Terms Are in Breach of Competition Law - Kluwer Competition Law Blog
On 2 October 2023, the Dutch competition authority ACM published its decision on the objections filed by Apple on 13 July 2023 (decision on objection) against the ACM’s decision of 24 August 2021 imposing an order subject to periodic penalty payments on Apple for infringing the abuse of...
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Lol!
Nice, should be fun seeing them try to get Firefox browser engine running on iOS touch devices.
Won’t suck battery or be buggy for sure 😉
By this argument, Android has proven itself more successful for users though. Again you are arguing a model is flawed by selectively ignoring the aspects that contradict your conclusion.
Now they still have that choice when they get their software from the App Store and avoid installing any third-party option.
Why you don't trust users to pick whatever model they want?
You wanted 5, I showed you 80.
ODA is an Anti-Apple App Developers Association with more than 400 developers.
No longer afraid of retaliation, app developers join forces to criticize Apple
More than 400 companies are seeking to join the anti-Apple coalition, a remarkable outpouring against Apple. For years, developers were reluctant to say anything negative about the tech giant, but that is changing.
Like I said, they are the major app developers.
In your other post you said match.com is a looser. Btw, match.com whipped Apple in the Dutch ACM antitrust case where it had to pay a weekly $5 million fine until it reached $50 million before it capitulated.
Dutch ACM Upholds its Penalty Order against Apple: Apple’s App Store Terms Are in Breach of Competition Law - Kluwer Competition Law Blog
On 2 October 2023, the Dutch competition authority ACM published its decision on the objections filed by Apple on 13 July 2023 (decision on objection) against the ACM’s decision of 24 August 2021 imposing an order subject to periodic penalty payments on Apple for infringing the abuse of...
Lol!
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Now that’s some winning!
In the planet where Google failed to argue that iOS is a competitor to android, but only demonstrating iPhone is competing against Samsung, Google, HTC, Huawei phones etc.
Android, iOS, play store and the AppStore aren’t competitors but separate markets.
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Well you asked for 10 and was even satisfied with one.
And that is relevant in which way exactly? You wanted a developer and now you are questioning whether said developer should be entitled an opinion you disagree with?
Furthermore, you do realize Mozilla has and is actually bringing significant innovation in the browser field? Take the Servo browser engine, or features like first-party isolation as only a couple examples.
And Apple doesn’t own me ether. My device I purchased and I will do with it as I personally please.
And until Apple wins a single legal case against Saurik who had a GROSS annual income of around 8~11 million from the alternative AppStore cydia they will just be empty posturing by Apple.
Up to the free market to decide if it’s better than safari