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Apple, yes it is time you stop caring for dead Mac Apps

Refractor said:
Coming back to the OPs post.

Yes I can understand he moans about Grapher and Maps.
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OP talking about himself in the third person like we won't know, in an entirely self-centered thread about how Apple should "stop caring for dead Mac apps," just because he doesn't use them, is peak MR.

Use the apps you want to, OP. Ignore the apps you don't like. It's what the rest of us manage to do without feeling the need to start a thread about it.

Once again, I'm so happy that the members of this forum are not in Apple leadership.
 
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Refractor said:
I nearly fell off my chair.

I didn't know that Apple ships macOS 26 with "Grapher."

I think I must have used it in 1995 the last time.

And then the damp squib Maps.

Use Maps and you will loose the will to live.

Or let me ask: "Would anyone of you pay money for Grapher or Apple Maps?"

(A case could also be made for Pages and Keynote. Apple should team up with Microsoft and ship every OS with Word or Powerpoint. The last time when I used Word or Powerpoint on a Mac (although many years ago) it seemed to be well integrated.)
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Grapher’s actually super useful, and maps is solid, in fact on my phone I’ve found it better at routing recently than google, including recognizing closed roads when google hasnt. Having it on the mac is a bonus that lets me sync things.

Here’s a tip: just because *you* dont use something doesnt mean other people dont

ETA, re pages etc: you’re really advocating for Apple removing a free pretty decent office suite and adding in a suite that Microsoft has been pushing towards a subscription model? And you think that’d be better?

If people want ms office they can buy ms office, it’s handy in a pinch to have an office suite on your mac that’s nice and you dont have to pay for. You can always delete the apps if you dont want them
 
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ProbablyDylan said:
Least they could do is make them easily removable. Lord knows I don't need Chess or Image Playground but we're stuck with them.
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You can just drag them to the trash. You’ll save like 5 mb from chess, definitely useful for fitting one more mp3 onto your computer 🙄
 
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Also The entire iWork point is irrelevant because the remaining iLife and iWork apps can be deleted and reinstalled at will.
Garage Band, iMovie, Pages. Numbers and Keynote.
 
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iHorseHead said:
Absolutely not!
It's saying as if Apple should kill of Safari because you don't use it and Apple should ship their products with Microsoft Edge.
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Wrong analogy and the op is not wrong for suggesting that (I don’t agree with shipping Microsoft office though) because apple has and continues to parnter with other companies to integrate their software. From the very first iPhone apple partnered with google so that google maps would ship with iOS. Apple also partnered with Facebook in iOS 4 or 5 to integrate Facebook with iOS. This partnership continues to this day with google hosted Gemini powering Siri, so the op is not really off for suggesting that
 
Refractor said:
I nearly fell off my chair.

I didn't know that Apple ships macOS 26 with "Grapher."

I think I must have used it in 1995 the last time.

And then the damp squib Maps.

Use Maps and you will loose the will to live.

Or let me ask: "Would anyone of you pay money for Grapher or Apple Maps?"

(A case could also be made for Pages and Keynote. Apple should team up with Microsoft and ship every OS with Word or Powerpoint. The last time when I used Word or Powerpoint on a Mac (although many years ago) it seemed to be well integrated.)
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Apple maps almost every time I drive - it used to be the 'ad free' option. At least it's still the 'no tracking' option.

Powerpoint sucks beans compared to Keynote.
 
Refractor said:
If Edge is better than Safari they could yes, ship macOS with it.

But Safari is a lot better integrated into macOS. I see no reason to ship macOS with Edge.

I use Edge at work but I think it is a rubbish browser.

I use Firefox on my work Linux account (the only browser we are allowed to use on Linux). But Firefox is dead in the water and has completely lost the plot.
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I see no reason to ship macOS without Grapher, Maps or Pages… Microsoft sucks as a company and their subscription model is trash, Apple will never fork money to them for a service they already provide (or could get paid for in App Store fees).
Maps is trash in most places around the world, that’s unfortunate, and Grapher is just a legacy app. There is no need in removing any from them, nothing to gain by omitting them from future updates.

Funny how there is a case to be made to being able to delete system apps and you just flew right past it.

Just another contrarian, nothing else to see but a pointless thread.
 
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Refractor said:
I nearly fell off my chair.

I didn't know that Apple ships macOS 26 with "Grapher."

I think I must have used it in 1995 the last time.

And then the damp squib Maps.
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Isn’t Grapher a thing in 2005? Mac OS X Tiger?
I just have got back from a EU trip (including Alps in Swiss, Italy - Aosta, and France). I made 7k kilometers (4,4k miles) visiting many countries including Andorra, Portugal and Poland. I was using Apple Maps all the time. Never had an issue. I am Google Maps switcher. No worries, no issues. Yes, DB is better for Google Maps and some restaurants I was checking in Google Maps. Some opening hours too. But only sometimes. My apple Car pilot is Apple Maps for some time now.
About the iWork - I use it since 10.4 Tiger. I make many presentations in the Keynote. My best presentations app. I prefer excel over numbers, yet Keynote and Pages are my first choice apps.
 
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Refractor said:
I nearly fell off my chair.

I didn't know that Apple ships macOS 26 with "Grapher."

I think I must have used it in 1995 the last time.

And then the damp squib Maps.

Use Maps and you will loose the will to live.

Or let me ask: "Would anyone of you pay money for Grapher or Apple Maps?"

(A case could also be made for Pages and Keynote. Apple should team up with Microsoft and ship every OS with Word or Powerpoint. The last time when I used Word or Powerpoint on a Mac (although many years ago) it seemed to be well integrated.)
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Wow! I think this idea is just so short-sighted. There were still a lot of awesome 32-bit apps when Apple canned them. And forcing developers into their walled garden is just plain wrong. I want to buy those apps directly from the people who made 'em. Why give Apple a cut?!?

So...you're saying you don't like some of the apps Apple makes impossible to remove. Get a life! Just let them sit there. Why are you using your valuable brainpower fretting about them.

While you're at it, but a bigger disk...
 
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