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I don't see how this can be a problem. I'm a man who has a beard of variable length that literally covers my face and Face ID always adapts perfectly. I first registered my face with a full beard, then at some point, shaved my face clean. Face ID didn't skip a beat. I grow it for a couple of weeks and go back to clean shaved. It's never had a problem recognizing me.

To make it even harder on Face ID, I go from wearing glasses to contacts all the time. Again, Face ID knows it's me with or without glasses, with or without a beard, and even with a ball cap or without it. My appearance changes quite a bit. I can't see how hair is going to throw a challenge at Face ID since it pays attention to your face, not your hair.

I don’t know either. All I know is that on the whole I unlock via passcode more than 50% of the time.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan when it works.
 
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I just wish they wouldn't force passcode requirements for services such as apple pay, and other home kit things. I don't want to have to waste time with a passcode.

Those requirements are part of the agreement for Apple Pay. That's the only way many financial institutions would agree to work with the service.
 
I guess I was hoping they would have added touch-id back into the phones/ipads as well as keeping the face-id as another selling point / option
 
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Pretty obvious. Face ID is already better than Touch ID and will only get better. Why would they revert to physical input for authentication? It makes zero sense. Apple is smarter than that. If you want half assed Touch ID, there are plenty of phones that offer it.
 
I've stuck with my iPhone 6 (and touch ID) up to this point but I'll likely upgrade this cycle, and I'm curious as to how it'll fit into my workflow. We use a number of different MFA/2FA authentication systems where I work (Google Auth, Duo Security, Microsoft Auth, and Okta), so I'm fairly regularly unlocking my phone to deal with them. I've currently got my work desk setup so that I put my iPhone sideways on the base of my Macbook which is propped up on an angled laptop stand (I use a full-sized keyboard & monitor at work). It's pretty easy for me to just move my hand a few inches from my keyboard to my iPhone to unlock it & respond to whatever MFA request I have. Hopefully I won't have to keep craning by neck into just the right position for Face ID to unlock the phone for me... I really don't want to have to constantly enter my PIN if Face ID won't work properly...

FaceID wouldn't work for you then. At least I don't think it would be reliable enough and fast enough. You do have to angle it within certain degrees and can't be too far away. And since you put yours sideways, unless Apple has made the hardware work that way, it won't work.
 
Wonder what implications this has for the design of a notchless iPhone, then. Are they going to try to squeeze the cameras into a tiny bezel at the top? Or perhaps find the tech to put them under the display?

I figure the notch is gone by 2020. It will be interesting to see what they come up with if not FOD.
 
Personally, I would like it to use both. I often need to unlock my phone while lying in bed while it is mounted on a night stand. Not possible with face ID unless they REALLY up their game.
 
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I guess I was hoping they would have added touch-id back into the phones/ipads as well as keeping the face-id as another selling point / option
I would have been hoping this as well, except Apple is an arrogant corporation which can never openly admit its own haughty mistakes and go back on already-made decisions. Now they've sold this as the New Best Thing Ever, and such is the dogma and must always be so from now on until the end of time. Or at least until something else, something Even Better<TM> gets invented.

Unfortunately, that probably prevents touch ID being added to Apple Watch too, where it would have made a lot of sense (would be way more convenient than poking at a fiddly tiny little on-screen keypad.) Sad, sad. Very sad.
 
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I don’t know either. All I know is that on the whole I unlock via passcode more than 50% of the time.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan when it works.

My first thought, looking at your avatar photo, is that if your hair is as loose and "wild" as it appears there (assuming that's you), the problem isn't necessarily the varying length of hair but rather it obstructing your eyes partially... Not sure if you've tracked the "failure" experiences enough to notice, but I'd place my bet on a lack of eye visibility as a (or the) culprit.
 
FaceID wouldn't work for you then. At least I don't think it would be reliable enough and fast enough. You do have to angle it within certain degrees and can't be too far away. And since you put yours sideways, unless Apple has made the hardware work that way, it won't work.

I've got this nice little Lamicoll stand for my iPhone (highly recommended, off the surface to clear the cable, angle adjustable, 4 finishes, like $10), and it works all over my desk, at all sorts of angles (including when I'm up in standing mode ...), of course with the exception of a 90 rotation of you use your phone in landscape (which I don't do for the most part with my X).

Which actually leads me to wonder if the "X Plus" will continue the special landscape modes like previous plus models - and if so, then were does that leave FID[?]
 
I want Touch ID in the display so badly. Face ID just doesn't cut it. It's too annoying to have to hover your face over your phone every time you want to check something when it's on your desk, and the number of failures compared to Touch ID is at least an order of magnitude higher. But no matter how much better they make Face ID, I'm not sure how they can address the problem of needing your face front and center each time. Perhaps an extremely wide angle lens? If it weren't for the gorgeous display and dual lens camera in a smaller form factor than the Plus on the iPhone X, I would have returned it for an iPhone 8.
 
The amount of "Usable" DRAM (to apps) is greatly affected by the presence OR absence of a Hardware Home Button !

Surprisingly, ONLY iOS Power Users know this !
 
Watch them add it next year.

They won’t. Tim Cook said Face ID is their future, and this is just the start of where Face ID will be leading with the iPhone and the iPad, possibly the Mac. So much R&D went into Face ID and the 3D facial mapping, it really is fascinating technology that has loads of potential.
 
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My first thought, looking at your avatar photo, is that if your hair is as loose and "wild" as it appears there (assuming that's you), the problem isn't necessarily the varying length of hair but rather it obstructing your eyes partially... Not sure if you've tracked the "failure" experiences enough to notice, but I'd place my bet on a lack of eye visibility as a (or the) culprit.

Yeah my hair goes wherever it wants, if there were a style it would be called the “trying to be Kurt Cobain”. And in fairness, I think I griped less back in January when it was short again. You definitely make a valid point about the eyes, if not that, random hairs may just be catching IR dots just around my face and blowing the ML mapping of my features. I should cut it and stop moaning.

But my hair looks so good right now...
 
The iPAD presentation will be seminal and determine the market acceptance of FaceID across the Apple devices used for either portrait- or landscape-oriented authentication.

Both, next-gen FaceID and TouchD under glass, will have proponents and deniers. Let the marketplace decide.

Competition purifies. Competition is good.
 
Neither Face ID nor Touch ID is absolutely better. Both have innate advantages and disadvantages (not counting immaturity of tech). Which one has more advantages will differ from person to person. It would be ideal if Apple supported both for everyone, and Federighi even stated that multiple biometrics could be used (https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5ma...will-melt-away-once-iphone-x-is-released/amp/), but we can only assume if Apple chooses to only go with Face ID it must be the biometric that better serves most people. But we’ve only had this tech for one year. I’d say we need a few years to really see if Face ID will be the sole biometric going forward or if Apple will support both.
 
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