Apple's 27" LED Cinema Display Now On Sale

[godrifle]

For me this sounds as an epicfail: 2 cm less than the iMac

Yeah, this is astonishing. Raise the pedestal 2cm Apple.

For a company that claims to get aesthetics, they make a lot of these idiotic moves (thing the never ending slew of adapters you have to plug in to their devices).

 

[kntgsp]

Christ, if you think the Dollars to British Pounds pricing is bad, just look at the Euro.

Even if you go to the high end and assume a 10% tax in the US for it, that's $1100 out the door. $1100 is €836.

Price on the German Apple Store? 1100€.

Even if you take away the 19% German VAT, it's €900. That's nearly $1200 BEFORE taxes.

• Price out the door in the US with an average 9% tax? $1090

• Price out the door in Germany with tax? $1450

And you expect this thing to sell well in Germany? Really? People who use stronger currencies do not get paid the same inflated amount that Americans do. We do not earn €50k to your $50k, because our currency is stronger. Salaries are adjusted somewhat accordingly to reflect that.

 

[KnightWRX]

What a coincidence, today only, the Dell U2711 is 779$ on the Canadian Dell store. 3 year warranty, more inputs with actual connectors, not 3 feet cable that can only plug into Macs, better color gamut (no matter what ovrlrd or whatever says about it) and matte screen.

Seriously, a webcam, I have 3 of those between all my other Apple devices... And shoddy speakers. I'll take the 3 year warranty and better input options.

 

[ArcaneDevice]

I can't even begin to imagine how amazing Blu-ray discs will look on that display.

Good. Save your energy. Full 1080p Blu-ray is wasted on a 27 inch display.

 

[nelmat]

£899 in UK... that's over $1,400, 40% more!

No, it's not.

Quick consumer lesson.

The prices on the US web site do not include sales tax. The prices on the UK web site do include vat at 17.5% and import duties. So add an average 15% sales tax to the US price before doing your conversion, and remember that businesses do not use the consumer exchange rate that you see advertised at the bureau de change, they use a commercial/bank specified exchange rate.

My maths here shows that this unit is around £36 more expensive in the UK, which would be accounted for by import duty.

 

[ArcaneDevice]

What a coincidence, today only, the Dell U2711 is 779$ on the Canadian Dell store. 3 year warranty, more inputs with actual connectors, not 3 feet cable that can only plug into Macs, better color gamut (no matter what ovrlrd or whatever says about it) and matte screen.

More importantly the new Dell U3011 is on sale today too. Filling the gap that Apple left when they didn't bother to release a new 30-incher.

 

[KnightWRX]

Good. Save your energy. Full 1080p Blu-ray is wasted on a 27 inch display.

Depends how far away you sit from it. At the typical viewing distances of a computer monitor, 1080p is very apparent.

More importantly the new Dell U3011 is on sale today too. Filling the gap that Apple left when they didn't bother to release a new 30-incher.

Unless you really need the 140 extra vertical pixels (and don't get me wrong, I hate 16:9 displays, vertical space is important moreso than horizontal space), I'd go for the 27". 1440 is plenty of vertical resolution and the density will be higher resulting in smaller, less noticeable pixel. With the same horizontal resolution, you don't really gain anything going 30" over 27".

To me, a 24" monitor at 2560x1600 would be best. Very small pixels and big work area. Inches mean nothing, it's all about resolution, unless you're blind as a bat and need the Fischer price pixels.

 

[kntgsp]

What a coincidence, today only, the Dell U2711 is 779$ on the Canadian Dell store. 3 year warranty, more inputs with actual connectors, not 3 feet cable that can only plug into Macs, better color gamut (no matter what ovrlrd or whatever says about it) and matte screen.

Seriously, a webcam, I have 3 of those between all my other Apple devices... And shoddy speakers. I'll take the 3 year warranty and better input options.

The ridiculous pricing aside, this is exactly what I'm wondering. Who wants to pay that much for a display that has an inferior color gamut? I can understand this being attractive in an aesthetic sense and for the charging/connectors that work with other Apple devices.

But for professionals? They expect it to be taken seriously by professionals who depend on color accuracy?

 

[VaatiKaiba]

Christ, if you think the Dollars to British Pounds pricing is bad, just look at the Euro.

Even if you go to the high end and assume a 10% tax in the US for it, that's $1100 out the door. $1100 is €836.

Price on the German Apple Store? 1100€.

Even if you take away the 19% German VAT, it's €900. That's nearly $1200 BEFORE taxes.

• Price out the door in the US with an average 9% tax? $1090

• Price out the door in Germany with tax? $1450

And you expect this thing to sell well in Germany? Really? People who use stronger currencies do not get paid the same inflated amount that Americans do. We do not earn €50k to your $50k, because our currency is stronger. Salaries are adjusted somewhat accordingly to reflect that.

It's not just Germany where this is probably going to flunk - most of western Europe is in the same boat (Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, etc)... I just can't see what was going through their heads.

 

[Master Chief]

Fabulous. Yet again a more expensive Apple product to replace a cheaper one. I like that. Can't wait for the next earnings call – with this kind of uplifting figures, I have to make a fortune again.

And yes, I want six of these in my office hallway for showing stock info. Probably going to need a new RVS rack for it, but whatever. Apple is paying me back anyway.

Note for EU customers: There's import duties [14%] and VAT [17.5%-22%] to take into account since it [the monitor] does not meet the new duty suspension regulations.

You may want to search for the following:

Council Regulation (EC) No 179/2009 of 5 March 2009 amending Annex I to Regulation (EEC) No 2658/87 on the tariff and statistical nomenclature and on the Common Customs Tariff

To get a grip on what is going on.

 

[OllyW]

i think you'll find that everything on the UK apple store will go up by another 2.5% in january - we might as well start the moaning threat now!

To be accurate, the prices will go up by 2.13%.

 

[La Porta]

Currency exchange and all that aside, I think this is a great companion for my new iMac. When I worked it out, the new iMac 27" with this extra 27" was at least $2,000 less than a Mac Pro with the 2 screens. Everyone is so concerned with "pro" use, "color gamut", and all this other stuff that many people simply do not care about. If the screen could only display 16 colors, then, yeah, it would be a waste. The fact of the matter is that if you are playing games, doing financial work, and watching videos, the "color gamut" isnt going to matter. Me, I just want the large real estate, and I'm willing to pay for Apple equipment every 5 years or so. In my experience, it lasts for years upon years, so its a solid investment for me. If you need that incredibly precise, "pro" monitor, then just go buy it somewhere. Apple has never claimed to be a niche pro company, but a consumer company. If that isnt good enough for you, fine. But calling everything "epic fail" because it isnt up to your expectations is rediculous. Some people are pleased, and you obviously cant please everyone. It is what it is.

 

[puckhead193]

would like this display if it was like $200 cheaper... Now if only the made the mtable to support a 17"

 

[KnightWRX]

Currency exchange and all that aside, I think this is a great companion for my new iMac. When I worked it out, the new iMac 27" with this extra 27" was at least $2,000 less than a Mac Pro with the 2 screens. Everyone is so concerned with "pro" use, "color gamut", and all this other stuff that many people simply do not care about. If the screen could only display 16 colors, then, yeah, it would be a waste. The fact of the matter is that if you are playing games, doing financial work, and watching videos, the "color gamut" isnt going to matter. Me, I just want the large real estate, and I'm willing to pay for Apple equipment every 5 years or so. In my experience, it lasts for years upon years, so its a solid investment for me. If you need that incredibly precise, "pro" monitor, then just go buy it somewhere. Apple has never claimed to be a niche pro company, but a consumer company. If that isnt good enough for you, fine. But calling everything "epic fail" because it isnt up to your expectations is rediculous. Some people are pleased, and you obviously cant please everyone. It is what it is.

But then again, if all you care about is real estate, you can also get 2 cheaper TN panel screens with 1920x1200 resolution or even Dell UltraSharps on sale with IPS or S-PVA panels and plug them into a Matrox Dualhead2go. That would give you a 3 screen setup with a 27" iMac, and much more resolution than the 27" ACD for about the same price (or less in the case of TN screens).

So your argument doesn't really hold.

would like this display if it was like $200 cheaper... Now if only the made the mtable to support a 17"

Get a Rain Design mStand. At least it lets you use your Macbook and exterior monitor in a dual screen setup for more screen real estate. I usually put up iTunes on the Macbook's screen so I can still see my playlist and have quick access to it while keeping all my monitor for what I'm working on.

I really don't get people who just close the Macbook and don't use its screen while using an exterior monitor.

 

[jshauns]

I am kind of a bystander in this area, as I really want one of these, but don't have a need for such a monitor (read: wife said no.) I Looked on newegg and several other websites that offer similar products and only a handful compare to this monitor at this price point. Obviously, there are monitors that measure the same and larger; however, the point of this monitor is resolution and quality. other monitors that offer this high of a pixel count are either equal in price or well over. So point of my post is, if you need such a high end pixel count this is the monitor to get! If you don't, move along... nothing to see here.

 

[J Radical]

More insane UK pricing I see.

 

[KnightWRX]

So point of my post is, if you need such a high end pixel count this is the monitor to get!

I don't know, the Dell U2711 with its myriad of real connectors and better warranty is much more interesting to me. Not all my devices have mini display port and thus the ACD is completely useless as there exist no adapters to plug it into anything but the newer Macs. Even older Macs without mDP are useless with it.

Not to mention the built-in cord of about 3 feet in length. It's barely enough to plug your laptop that's sitting next to it.

To a pro, with the factory color calibration and wider color gamut and matte display, it makes it a no brainer.

 

[kraftzwerg]

cable length on this one?

Does this have a longer connection cable to the computer than the 24" ACD?

The cable on my 24" Apple LED Cinema Display is way too short to connect to e.g. a Mac Pro standing on the floor or a Mac Mini placed a bit further away. It's OK as a notebook companion but doesn't seem to be intended as a monitor for desktop machines. What's more is that extension cables for MiniDP are not easy to get.

 

[racketeer71]

Note for EU customers: There's import duties [14%] and VAT [17.5%-22%] to take into account since it [the monitor] does not meet the new duty suspension regulations.

I assume the cost in China is x.

The price in the EU then becomes: x + EU duty + [Country specific] VAT.

The price in the US then becomes: x + US duty + [State specific] Sales Tax.

So either the US duty is totally different from the EU duty (since in both cases, a product made in China is imported over a customs barrier), or the EU pricing includes the variable "y" which covers "extra profit from the Europeans we at Apple continuously tries to ignore as much as possible - except when they pay a premium".

 

[La Porta]

B
So your argument doesn't really hold.

It was not an argument. If people want to go buy cheaper displays, buy 3 of them for the same price - fine. I never said that was some sort of issue. I was simply saying that something is not a huge disaster just because it is more expensive or not exactly what someone wants. Some of us do like it. I wish that people would be more constructive to the effect of "i'm not sold on this glossy thing" or "i think there are better deals out there for reason x" instead of saying "epic fail" for the slightest deviation from exactly what they want.

 

[jshauns]

I don't know, the Dell U2711 with its myriad of real connectors and better warranty is much more interesting to me. Not all my devices have mini display port and thus the ACD is completely useless as there exist no adapters to plug it into anything but the newer Macs. Even older Macs without mDP are useless with it.

Not to mention the built-in cord of about 3 feet in length. It's barely enough to plug your laptop that's sitting next to it.

To a pro, with the factory color calibration and wider color gamut and matte display, it makes it a no brainer.

Touché, well played. I thought about acknowledging it, but I suppose my lack of motivation to type led me into a pickle. I do agree though about the benefits that the dell monitor brings into view, pun intended. I guess its where you send your dollars that makes the difference lol

 

[rembert]

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Note for EU customers: There's import duties [14%] and VAT [17.5%-22%] to take into account since it [the monitor] does not meet the new duty suspension regulations.
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Those 14% import duties are for tv-sets and for big displays which could be used as a TV screen. Who is using his 27" ACD for watching TV? That import ruling is just too stupid as has been explained here as well. The final word hasn't been said yet so we might see a 14% pricedrop in the near future (some Taiwan company already won from the EU via a WTO ruling but then it got settled while drinking some booze). Now for some calculation.

In the Netherlands (and probably in all Euro countries) the price of this screen is 1099 euro. That's something I won't pay for a display - I'll stick to second hand ACDs for now. 1099 without VAT is 924 euro. Now substract the import duties (114 euro): the price of the screen is now 810 euro, in dollars $1060.Still no $999. Anyway, when no import duties would exist, the price of the screen would have been 965 euro. Still a lot of money, but it's for a great screen.

 

[Lostanddamned]

I just called apple, these things are eligible for a student discount, which makes them come to £746.13. Much more realistic, I will be getting one of these beauties.

I dont care about the colour gamut, its certain to be better than my current £50 19" monitor.

 

[mrhick01]

Because Apple uses IPS panels (like Dell's Ultrasharp line), LCD backlighting (unlike Dell's Ultrasharp line), this monitor has powered speakers/subwoofer and video camera and it is more environmentally friendly than most panels.

Take a minute to look at reality. Who cares? I'm not designer, a film editor, or any other type of professional who would require a High-Res monitor (and neither is 95% of the population). I am a project manager/scheduler who lives in the world of Primavera and Microsoft Excel. When I'm home relaxing I want to watch video, surf the web, listen to music, and get my email. And there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people like me who just would like a nice big monitor that's easy on the eyes.

My Acer 27" works quite well with my Mini and looks as good as my iMac. I enjoy surfing the web on it as well as watching Netflix streaming movies, and I could of bought 2 of them with change left over for what Apple wants for their "professional" $1000 monitor.

How come the "consumer friendly" Apple can't make a decent monitor for consumers to hook up to their Mini for a reasonable price, a monitor like almost every other hardware maker does???

 

[mrhick01]

Oh yes, and the academic price for the monitor in the US is $949.00.

For those who hate glossy, buy the Dell Ultrasharp and color calibrate to your heart's content.