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about time! been waiting so long, 1099 in canada 1049 edu price... dell still a wee bit cheaper here, but, now how long till they're in my local apple store??:confused: BTW when will the 5870 kit be available
 
no matte = no buy

all the studios i know are going to hold on to their 30" ACD's because of the matte option. (and pray they never need replacing any time soon)

it's not because of glare on these shiny screens (most have their offices/workspace lit pretty dimly) it's because of color issues.

these screens just deceptively crank up the saturation and contrast.
 
I am kind of a bystander in this area, as I really want one of these, but don't have a need for such a monitor (read: wife said no.) I Looked on newegg and several other websites that offer similar products and only a handful compare to this monitor at this price point. Obviously, there are monitors that measure the same and larger; however, the point of this monitor is resolution and quality. other monitors that offer this high of a pixel count are either equal in price or well over. So point of my post is, if you need such a high end pixel count this is the monitor to get! If you don't, move along... nothing to see here.

LOL - I feel with you, man. Tip: try to convince her that is actually good for her too or/and the family, environment etc. Got the new iPhone because I convinced my wife she could than get my 3Gs with e-mail access etc. Got the appleTV as that reduces shippment (environmental impact) via Netflix. Be inventive (but not going overboard) ;)
 
Oh yes, and the academic price for the monitor in the US is $949.00.

For those who hate glossy, buy the Dell Ultrasharp and color calibrate to your heart's content.

Had the Dell 3008. First one had dead pixels after few months. Was replaced with a refurbished one that was dead within 4 hours. Now have a 30 ACD on my desk and love it. No Dell for me again any time soon.
 
I like the feature that allows you look at yourself and everything behind you when you're trying to work.

Another bonus is the special "make display useless" surface that kicks in when the sun hits it.

Thanks, Steve!
LOL! So true but I might have to bite the bullet cause a few of our 30's are showing weird anomalies :(
 
Why is there only one size Apple Cinema Display?

I don't really have a problem with this new 27-inch Cinema Display, what I don't understand is why the 24-inch monitor was discontinued.

My personal preference on my workstation is for dual 24-inch monitors (the 30-inch Cinema display always gave me a pain in the neck) and for location work I would like to have a 17 or 20-inch monitor that I can pack up and take with me in a suitcase.

Why is Apple only offering one size, it really does not fit all users.

George

Digital Photo Mac - http://dpmac.com
 
The educational discounts are really interesting!

The price in the US goes from 999 to 949: 5% discount.

The price in the UK goes from 899 to 742: 17% discount.

I assume Apple is not losing money on the UK education discount. This then proves that Apple is making a huge profit off the "ordinary" UK customers, compared to their American counterparts.
 
How is the glare on this thing? I may consider one, but wanted to check this out first.

The advantage over the older LCDs was having no glass.
I love my 24" actually. Wasn't sure I would at first with the "glare issuse". There hasn't been one and I have an overhead light on and generally have 2 doors that open to my bedroom, both with sunlight streaming in. The monitor is so bright I see nothing but the images. Also, it's so bright, I generally run the thing on about 75-80% and it's just about right.

You hear a lot of stuff from people and they've never used one for any length of time. Would I prefer I matte option? Certainly. But I could've bought a 30" before they sold out, but I decided to just get two 27"ers and give this 24" to my wife to use with her MacBook Pro. Education discount drops the monitors to $949 which is $50 higher than I'd hoped, but at least it's something.


Great for those for whom money is no object because it's written off as a work expense or whathaveyou, but for us common folk a $1,000 monitor is a big pill to swallow, when there are other great options out there for much much less.

The more options for the consumer the merrier though!
You're really not looking at the specs on those cheaper monitors which are 1920 x 1080 -- Apple's display is high resolution at 2560x1440 at $999. I looked a number of competitors and they all range in between $1200 (HP), $1700 (Dell) and $1900 (NEC) -- now some of these are 30" displays because they don't make a 27" with that high of a resolution -- they also have a horizontal pixel count of 1600 because they aren't the same aspect ratio. I prefer the widescreen for two reasons: great for movies, but more importantly. Keeps the monitor lower on your desk. The 30" Display loomed high above you while the 27" will be less towering, but more width.

Consider also the build quality of the device. The display is a thing of beauty and out classes anything I've seen. The all-aluminum enclosure is simply stunning and has no equal.

The competition is generally plastic or metal painted black (YUK!); The competition by and large DOES NOT come with a video camera built in. They do not have the 49 watt speaker system (which is considerably more than the 24" Apple display that this replaces). The Apple 27" also has the perfect cabling system if you have a new Macbook or MB Pro. Also, if you buy a Mac at the same time which most people do, you get AppleCare for the monitor for free because it's rolled into the AppleCare for the computer. A $50 education discount is offered for your monitor.

I guess for me, Apple displays generally have been SOOO expensive -- starting at $3499 and eventually moving to $2499 and then to $1999 -- all for monitors that were between 22-23" in size. Then the really nice 30" that came in and took the top spot was still incredibly expensive at $1799, albeit a much better value than those that came before it. Enter the 27" display... it's an LED instead of the LCDs that came before it -- brighter and instant-on. It has same horizontal rez as the 30" AND includes speakers and camera... wow... so glad to be buying two of these things, honestly. Much better value than a single Apple 30 (unless your office is just nothing but windows and lights).

I think for all of the tech that's built into the new one (Hi-Rez Screen, Camera, Speakers), one gets a lot for $999.

My 2¢
 
How come the "consumer friendly" Apple can't make a decent monitor for consumers to hook up to their Mini for a reasonable price, a monitor like almost every other hardware maker does???

You just answered your own question. The reason they don't make the display you are talking about is because there are dozens and dozens of them on the market. Anyone can make a crappy display with a large panel at low pixel density. It's the cheapest kind of display to make because it is the most common.

Why does Apple automatically have to follow into this path because everyone else does? Do they really need to put the Apple logo on every single thing they can possibly make just because they can? That doesn't really sound like Apple at all.

They know that they sell their products at a certain price point that they feel comfortable with, they aren't always the best at putting their display products at extremely competitive prices. It is better to target a market they know they can do good at, which is a quality high resolution IPS display with extra features that other don't have like a magsafe power connector. They aren't putting a cheap plastic case on the cheapest panel they can find and getting into the pricing war with dozens of display manufacturers. This means they also don't have to risk losing money by having a warehouse full of displays that nobody is buying (the 24" Apple display is a great example of one that tons of people aren't buying because there is so much competition).

I am glad Apple is not slapping their logo on every panel they can and are instead sticking to their message, which is to make the best products they can, because what is the point is being cheap just because everyone else is doing it?
 
The educational discounts are really interesting!

The price in the US goes from 999 to 949: 5% discount.

The price in the UK goes from 899 to 742: 17% discount.

I assume Apple is not losing money on the UK education discount. This then proves that Apple is making a huge profit off the "ordinary" UK customers, compared to their American counterparts.
That's a hell lot more than the £827.20 I see on this page.

Can this be an error, the edu-discount price of the previous 24-inch LED Cinema display maybe?
 
Don't read so much into the price just the specs......oh wait they don't justify the price either! :eek:
 
For me, glossy screen = no sale.

I'll just stick with my trusty old 23" matte-screen Cinema Display.
 
I guess the correct verbiage should be "now for sale", because this monitor certainly isn't "on sale"....
 
all the studios i know are going to hold on to their 30" ACD's because of the matte option. (and pray they never need replacing any time soon)

it's not because of glare on these shiny screens (most have their offices/workspace lit pretty dimly) it's because of color issues.

these screens just deceptively crank up the saturation and contrast.

This is a myth. Seriously try it.

A friend of mine told me glossy was better then matte for color accuracy and photos a few years back and I thought he was wrong because every forum, website, etc said otherwise.

Then he showed me a demo in his studio with calibrated monitors and printers. He was right. Glossy screens represent color more accurately and match the prints much better. I switched to glossy.

After I switched to glossy I showed a few of my friends one who is a shoe designer, 3 that are full time photographers, and 2 of which are graphic designers. Needless to say after the same demo they all switched to glossy screens for their studios.

The thing is everyone is afraid to try this for some reason. Granted colorimeters and printer calibration devices are around $1500 total (the printer ones are expensive) so not everyone has access to these devices but its tiring to hear the "glossy isn't good for color" crap going all around the forum.

Try it and see. You will be surprised how much better glossy really is.
 
wow $1000?

Will that many people really pay that much for a 27" monitor?

Yes. I have a 27" iMac paired with a 26" 1080P Vizio and it is really annoying to have two unequal displays in resolution and brightness. I really hate when I drag applications onto my Vizio and I have to resize the windows. Plus the clarity and coloration of the iMac display makes the Vizio not look so good. I prefer to have two displays of equal resolution. I might have been better off having a Mac Mini with two 26" Vizio's but after getting used to the iMac's gorgeous display, its like having steak and then going back to hamburger.
 
That's a hell lot more than the £827.20 I see on this page.

Can this be an error, the edu-discount price of the previous 24-inch LED Cinema display maybe?

I got the number from this thread.

But in DK at least, it's like this:

1) Normal pricing for average joes.
2) Educational Pricing for people that click the "Education Store" button, and is not enrolled at a specific university.
3) Educational Pricing for people that calls Apple Store (which is ie. required if you study at the University of Copenhagen, who have an Apple on Campus deal).

IIRC, number 2 often get 6-8%, whereas number 3 get around 14% on MBPs.

Prices in DK:
1) 8299 = $1455
2) 7635 = $1339 = 8% discount
3) 7304 = $1281 = 12% discount
 
I had to laugh when I saw the price in Euros - €1099.00. Even without tax (18% IVA) thats still €902. An entry level iMac is €1199.00. Granted its a smaller screen but its a full computer. What is going on......

The majority of the cost of an iMac is actually the display.
 
Thanks, but I'll pass.

Rather get the sweet Dell U3011; that thing looks amazing!

The abundance of connectivity :)

10-bit color with:
2 High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI)
2 Digital Visual Interface connectors (DVI-D) with HDCP
1 DisplayPort (DP)
1 Video Graphics Array (VGA)
Component Connectors
1 USB 2.0 upstream port
4 USB 2.0 downstream ports
7 in 1 Media reader

Get it together Apple!
 
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