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A day after Apple unveiled redesigned 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, we continue to learn smaller details about the notebooks that Apple did not mention during its event, and the latest discovery pertains to fast charging.

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Apple's website indicates that its 67W USB-C power adapter included with the base model 14-inch MacBook Pro is not capable of fast charging any 14-inch MacBook Pro. To take advantage of fast charging, which allows for a 50% charge in around 30 minutes, Apple says customers can upgrade to its 96W USB-C power adapter for an additional $20.

Apple includes the 96W adapter with any 14-inch MacBook Pro model with an M1 Pro chip with a 10‑core CPU or any M1 Max chip, so customers choosing those higher-end configurations don't have to worry about any fast charging limitations.

The exact wording from Apple's website:
Two power adapters are available with the 14‑inch MacBook Pro. The 67W USB‑C Power Adapter is compact and provides efficient charging at home, in the office, or on the go. It's included with the standard configuration of MacBook Pro with M1 Pro with 8‑core CPU, 14‑core GPU, and 16‑core Neural Engine.

Or you can choose the 96W USB‑C Power Adapter, which lets you take advantage of fast charging, so you can go from 0 to 50 percent charge in around 30 minutes.

The 96W adapter is included with any MacBook Pro that has an M1 Pro chip with a 10‑core CPU or an M1 Max chip.
Those who opt for the new 16-inch MacBook Pro don't need to worry about any fast charging limitations either, as all 16-inch configurations include a 140W USB-C power adapter in the box that is capable of fast charging.

The new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro feature next-generation Apple-designed M1 Pro and M1 Max chips, improved mini-LED displays, up to 10 hours longer battery life, the return of an HDMI port, SD card slot, and MagSafe, and more. The notebooks can be ordered now and will begin arriving to customers and launch in stores October 26.

Article Link: Apple's 67W Power Adapter Unable to Fast Charge 14-Inch MacBook Pro
 

Serban55

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of course...especially in full load
You need to go with the 96W USB-C power adapter (thats by the way the 16" Intel adapter)
You can charge normaly with the 96W USB-C power adapter the 16" also but you dont have the fast charging like you do with the 140W
 
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anshuvorty

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of course...especially in full load
You need to go with the 96W USB-C power adapter (thats by the way the 16" Intel adapter)
You can charge normaly with the 96W USB-C power adapter the 16" also but you dont have the fast charging like you do with the 140W
I think you misunderstood the article:
  • standard 67 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: no fast charge
  • 96 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: fast charging possible
  • 140 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: fast charging possible
Let me know if I am wrong here.
 

AltecX

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I think you misunderstood the article:
  • standard 67 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: no fast charge
  • 96 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: fast charging possible
  • 140 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: fast charging possible
Let me know if I am wrong here.
I think YOU misunderstand HIM.

Hes saying that that 96w adapter will fast charge the 14in, but WONT fast charge the 16in. You need the 140w for that 16in Fast Charging.
 

hmark8

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That seems obvious. But my question I keep asking and hopefully someone finally asks Apple is what if charging is slightly less that 96w? The most common scenario of course would be everyone who hooks up their 14" to a thunderbolt dock like the OWC which provides 90w of power. 90 and less than 96, but is so close, so the fast charging would be slightly less, but if ifs 90 (or even a hypotehtical 95), does it completely disable the fast charging feature rather than just a slightly slower fast charging speed?
 
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hmark8

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An almost $2000 machine and you need to pay extra for the fast charger lol. Such an Apple thing to do.
Or you could look at it the other way. The could have just included the price of the bigger charger in all the 14s and increased the price to accommodate. But now everyone who doesn't need that fast charging speed, and rather is looking to keep the price as low as possible is out of luck. For many the entry price is still to much and those people would probably happily remove some features they won't ever use to get the laptop.
 

DHagan4755

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So would an external display with a 96W PD through USB-C fast charge this computer? I know some will have theirs hooked into an external display like this. Or even a 96W dock.
 

Hodas

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Has anyone seen any confirmation whether third-party PD USB-C chargers will work with the MagSafe 3 cable? I am assuming they will but have not heard a confirmation.

I am glad that Apple retained USB-C/PD charging generally and is supporting fast charging of the 14” model by that port as well as by the MagSafe port.
 

Return Zero

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Makes sense. The charger is less capacity than the battery itself.
The EE in me has to stop and make a correction, sorry.

The charger has no meaningful energy capacity, just power capacity.

The battery is 70 watt-hours, which is energy capacity. This means if you were to somehow burn 70 watts continuously, it would last an hour. This laptop probably can't burn more than 30 or 40 watts at any given moment (i.e. you'd be hard-pressed to drain the battery in less than two hours).
 

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I carry a multi-port charger with me when I travel and have one on my desk and both support up to 100W via USB PD so there was no need for a charger larger than the standard 67w for me (which will likely just stay in the box) so I did not bother paying the $20 for the upgrade.
 

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I carry a multi-port charger with me when I travel and have one on my desk and both support up to 100W via USB PD so no need for a charger larger than the standard 67w for me (which will likely just stay in the box).
I got the 16" but I will keep the fast charger that it comes with in my bag for occasional traveling. 90% of the time it will hook into a TB hub and stay charged that way.

Good deal around I think.
 
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