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I want to see just how much wattage the new MacBooks can withstand using the 140 W USB-C charger plugged into the USB Type C port with a certified Extended Power Range (EPR) charging cable.
 
Will the 140w charger work on airplanes? I seem to remember a 75w limit I also remember the 96w chargers working somehow. Anyone have any experience with this?
 
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Still curious as to why Apple did this. I mean personally I’d stick with the slower charger, I’m in no hurry and would prefer the smaller brick. I wonder if any additional battery degradation would occur from the fast charge?

What I’m curious about is the $20 upgrade. It’s hardly big money and what if they misunderstood the market and everyone or no one opts for it? They’d have to produce a lot of one type of charger or the other in a short space of time with global shipping constraints or keep a lot more in the warehouse. There’s minimal profit in it surely? I would have expected it as a $100 upgrade option in classic Apple style or to be only available on the more expensive models.
 
Yeah, I wish apple was a bit more upfront about the configurations before opening the floodgates. I initially ordered a base model + 1TB before I realized that they binned the cpu on that model, the main reason I wanted it was for cpu performance and the display. So I canceled and ordered the mid tier 14, getting benefits like this that I wouldn’t have realized till ship dates are months out…
 
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Still curious as to why Apple did this. I mean personally I’d stick with the slower charger, I’m in no hurry and would prefer the smaller brick. I wonder if any additional battery degradation would occur from the fast charge?

What I’m curious about is the $20 upgrade. It’s hardly big money and what if they misunderstood the market and everyone or no one opts for it? They’d have to produce a lot of one type of charger or the other in a short space of time with global shipping constraints or keep a lot more in the warehouse. There’s minimal profit in it surely? I would have expected it as a $100 upgrade option in classic Apple style or to be only available on the more expensive models.
My guess would be providing one more reason to upgrade to the $2499 model, other than the 1TB and 16 core GPU.
 
Or you could look at it the other way. The could have just included the price of the bigger charger in all the 14s and increased the price to accommodate. But now everyone who doesn't need that fast charging speed, and rather is looking to keep the price as low as possible is out of luck. For many the entry price is still to much and those people would probably happily remove some features they won't ever use to get the laptop.
A $20 on a $2,000 would make anyone not buy it?
 
Pretty sure this is to help the entry level model stay as small and light as possible, these Macs are going to be noticeably heavier than the previous generation. I wish it was easy to trade up the power adapter at an Apple Store though, because waiting for a custom order isn't always an option.
 
My 2018 15" has already lost 10% battery health in one year and that is from using Al-Dente to keep it under 80%. I wonder how this fast charging is going to affect battery health. Especially if it is plugged in all the time or drained every day.
 
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Or you could look at it the other way. The could have just included the price of the bigger charger in all the 14s and increased the price to accommodate. But now everyone who doesn't need that fast charging speed, and rather is looking to keep the price as low as possible is out of luck. For many the entry price is still to much and those people would probably happily remove some features they won't ever use to get the laptop.
It's $20, which probably equates to almost no incremental cost.
 
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I think you misunderstood the article:
  • standard 67 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: no fast charge
  • 96 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: fast charging possible
  • 140 watt charger with 14-inch MBP: fast charging possible
Let me know if I am wrong here.

And I have an 87 watt charger, and I can't figure out what it came with. Seems an odd size, and now it's pretty much for the iPad Pro, I guess...
 
Does anyone know how fast charging impacts battery health? Does it degrade the battery faster if used all the time?

I'm assuming the 67W is a better suited charger for leaving your MBP plugged in at home & the fast charging one should only be used when you need a fast charge back to an operational level.

Thanks if anyone knows
 
This is a bit much. You have to upgrade your laptop to get this. Fast charge is a $20 option.

'Charging sold separately'
 
Has anyone seen any confirmation whether third-party PD USB-C chargers will work with the MagSafe 3 cable? I am assuming they will but have not heard a confirmation.

I am glad that Apple retained USB-C/PD charging generally and is supporting fast charging of the 14” model by that port as well as by the MagSafe port.
Apple's USB-C power adapters are using standard Power Delivery protocols and nothing more. The 96 watt charger for instance is completely unchanged and it's used for the 16 and 14 with Magsafe 3. So they should work just fine with 3rd parties, so long as the power available is sufficient. In addition, they confirmed that the USB ports also allow charging as they did in the last generation.
 
Will the 140w charger work on airplanes? I seem to remember a 75w limit I also remember the 96w chargers working somehow. Anyone have any experience with this?

TSA doesn't give a F about the wattage on your MacBook charger.
 
I also only noticed this after preordering. Apple would not let me change my order, only cancel it, but that would push the delivery back by 2 weeks. So for me it is not worth upgrading.


Can i upgrade the charger after I get the machine? lol
Yes, but it will be £79, rather than just the price difference between 67W and 96W chargers.
 
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