Apple's A6 Chip Confirmed to Carry Triple-Core Graphics

[tech4all]

iPhone 5 performs MUCH better in some benchmarks #justsayin

Sorry but the recent Javascript benchmark doesn't count as "some benchmarks" and that doesn't really do much for day-to-day tasks for most people . . . #justsayin

LTE - it's been done
4" screen - it's been done and better
1GB RAM - it's been done
Pano camera - it's been done
Maps - Google is the maps titan at the moment
NFC - it's been done (Apple doesn't even support this, at least not fully)
Flash support - although Adobe doesn't support this anymore so it really doesn't have much grounds anymore for an Android plus I'll admit. And Flash is slowly getting out dated anyways.

I will say Apple is king for apps. Where Google is a fairly new to that. Apple is to apps as Google is to maps. Hey that rhymed!

And at least with the Galaxy Nexus an update is coming up that'll make the iPhone 5 look even more out of date.

 

[spartig]

How are current game consoles stacking up to these graphics?

Stacking up? They are blowing them away! Consoles are much more powerful.

 

[nick_elt]

How are current game consoles stacking up to these graphics?

You have played on a ps3 right?(or xbox 360)

Their top game isnt angry birds is it....

 

[spartig]

This thing has a better GPU than the iPad 3? What?!

No it doesn't. The iPad 3 has one more core.

 

[andyyardley]

Even with the updated chip i'm seeing some pretty choppy framerates in the maps app, even in 2D mode, so I dread to imagine what it's like on the 4S (not updating mine as I use maps far more then anything else)

 

[Marcus-k]

And yet somehow has worse performance.

Does it really? What do you base that on? The average score for the iPhone 5 on Geekbench is 1577 while the average score on the Galaxy S3 is 1762. So you lied, and 40 Apple fanboys blindly beleived you and upvoted your post.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

 

[subsonix]

Does it really? What do you base that on? The average score for the iPhone 5 on Geekbench is 1577 while the average score on the Galaxy S3 is 1762. So you lied. And 40 Apple fanboys blindly beleived you and upvoted you're post.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

Read this: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410034,00.asp

 

[Marcus-k]

Read this: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410034,00.asp

How can you trust them when they quote faulty test results here:

http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/359037-iphone-5-vs-android-chart.jpg?thumb=y

The Geekbench average score for the iPhone 5 is 1577, not 1640 as claimed by PCMag. The average score for the Galaxy S3 is 1762, not 1451 as claimed by PCMag.

Real sources:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

 

[Jimrod]

How can you trust them when they quote faulty test results here:

http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/359037-iphone-5-vs-android-chart.jpg?thumb=y

The Geekbench average score for the iPhone 5 is 1577, not 1640 as claimed by PCMag. The average score for the Galaxy S3 is 1762, not 1451 as claimed by PCMag.

Real sources:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

Can anyone explain why, when I run Geekbench on my new, plugged in iPhone 5 with all apps closed I'm getting a score in the 900's?

 

[adildacoolset]

Sorry but the recent Javascript benchmark doesn't count as "some benchmarks" and that doesn't really do much for day-to-day tasks for most people . . . #justsayin

LTE - it's been done
4" screen - it's been done and better
1GB RAM - it's been done
Pano camera - it's been done
Maps - Google is the maps titan at the moment
NFC - it's been done (Apple doesn't even support this, at least not fully)
Flash support - although Adobe doesn't support this anymore so it really doesn't have much grounds anymore for an Android plus I'll admit. And Flash is slowly getting out dated anyways.

I will say Apple is king for apps. Where Google is a fairly new to that. Apple is to apps as Google is to maps. Hey that rhymed!

And at least with the Galaxy Nexus an update is coming up that'll make the iPhone 5 look even more out of date.

Power of A6 chip? Hmm....
700,000 apps? Hmmm.....
Aluminium + glass body 7.6 mm thick that looks as good? Hmmm......
4" screen? Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better. Look at the GS3 for example. Its a freaikin TV. No, an aircraft carrier.

The iPhone 5 is by no regards "outdated", and jelly bean doesn't make it outdated/

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No it doesn't. The iPad 3 has one more core.

ipad 3 has more pixels to push than the iPhone.

 

[subsonix]

How can you trust them when they quote faulty test results here:

They use more benchmarks than geekbench. That geekbench score was accurate a few days ago. How can you trust that user submitted scores are accurate at all? The score for the s3 has risen 200 points in 2 days, at that point I though I just wait until someone does a proper test.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Lol this is way over my head

Will it play crysis?

No,but it makes Safari snappier!

 

[Technarchy]

Amen. "The Fastest Smartphone in the Land."

I see the Fandroids haven't swarmed this thread yet - and probably won't. They're still hurting over the drop test posted earlier. Oh well, at least they still have "better maps."

Give them more time. They need time to find some bootleg basement made ROM and overclock their GS3's till it melts so it can compete with what Apple does from the factory.

 

[Iconoclysm]

How can you trust them when they quote faulty test results here:

http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/359037-iphone-5-vs-android-chart.jpg?thumb=y

The Geekbench average score for the iPhone 5 is 1577, not 1640 as claimed by PCMag. The average score for the Galaxy S3 is 1762, not 1451 as claimed by PCMag.

Real sources:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

Yeah, maybe you should learn to pay attention to details? They're using the US version of the S3, the dual core.

 

[iMikeT]

"But you are not a fabricator, yet!"

No. But I see you Schwartz is as big as mine.

 

[inscrewtable]

The iPhone goes to number 11

Why does it seem like every post about the iPhone 5 has a retaliation about how the Galaxy S3 is superior, and every post about the S3 has people spouting about the iFive? When I saw a poll some time ago on the MacRumours demographic, it seemed like the majority of us were aged 20-40. Why, then, are we acting like the kids that used to - and unbelievably still do - make "Xbox/PS3 IS BETTER" comments? Pick the piece of technology that works in your favour, and go your separate ways people.

Thanks for the reminder dad.

 

[gnasher729]

Samsung has Quad core #justsayin

As has been said by many people: Why do you think you have to discuss anything from that stupid Korean company here? Gets on my nerves, an article about the iPhone and what do you have to come out with? blah blah blah Samsung blah blah blah. Come back when you have something to say that is of interest to anyone here.

I suggest Fandroid Playground. It seems recently all discussions tend to end into trolls promoting the GS3.

Unfortunately you're right.

 

[hitmantb]

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410034,00.asp read it and weap fandroids

Pretty sure that is the US Galaxy S3 with S4 dual core processors, still very impressive scores.

CPU Benchmarks: Quad S4 > Jelly Bean Quad Exynos > iPhone 5 A6 = ICS Quad Exynos > Dual S4
GPU Benchmarks: Quad S4 Adreno 320 = iPhone 5 A6 > Quad Exynos Mali 400 > Dual S4 Adreno 225

The problem is, despite a revolutionary CPU with an unfair blend of CPU, GPU and battery efficiency, Apple chose to cripple this device with the smallest battery of any flagship. They really should have released another version with 4.8" screen, 3000 battery and no one will be talking about S3/Note. All other Apple products have different sizes to choose from. Can you even imagine the lasting power of such a model? People have different needs and desires. Android is bad with battery, but they are brute forcing it with Razormaxx HD and Galaxy Note 2.

As it stands today, I find S3 to be a more versatile device with $25 micro SD card greatly increasing internal capacity by 32GB, the much bigger screen, and removable battery (high capacity battery cover's only slightly increasing bulk and doubling battery life far beyond even iPhone 5). ICS/Jelly Bean coupled with vastly superior support for third party application integration (ability to open video with app of choice, message directly with Google voice, etc) also make iOS look a little too simple and rigid.

Native T-Mobile support is big too, customers are tired of high monthly prices, carriers are tired of high Apple subsidies, a lot of risk for Apple vs Samsung in the states as carriers are pushing Android more. Apple also really need a super cheap version of 4 to compete in all other countries, where iPhone is still too expensive.

As good as iPhone 5 was, Galaxy S3 already sold 20 million in 3 months and will come dangerously close to its numbers 1v1. Add in the 1000000000000000000000000000000000000 other Android devices, the quality issue with maps/black aluminum, I am not sure if Apple has enough legs after holiday season.

I understand Apple is the most profitable company on earth, but low market share worldwide will ultimately hurt them in the long run, especially without Jobs to introduce ground breaking products. Of course all dynasties come to an end, I can only hope for the best.

(Using Galaxy Note, will wait for Note 2 and may not come back to Apple ecosystem, but will always love Jobs and his creations)

 

[DeathChill]

That's not what the benchmarks are indicating...

This phone is a powerhouse.

I am speaking out of my ass here, but I imagine any improvements they've made to the memory bandwidth has probably helped possibly.

 

[k995]

Amen. "The Fastest Smartphone in the Land."

I see the Fandroids haven't swarmed this thread yet - and probably won't. They're still hurting over the drop test posted earlier. Oh well, at least they still have "better maps."

Funny when android is faster "its usability not power" when apple is faster "its power not usability"

Lol, people can be so stupid.

 

[ronnyuk]

Pretty sure that is the US Galaxy S3 with S4 dual core processors, still very impressive scores, comparable to S4 quad core Adreno 320 scores, beat quad core exynos on GPU, CPU is only slightly behind the Jelly Bean version.

The problem is, despite a revolutionary CPU with an unfair blend of CPU, GPU and battery efficiency, Apple chose to cripple this device with the smallest battery of any flagship. They really should have released another version with 4.8" screen, 3000 battery and no one will be talking about S3/Note. All other Apple products have different sizes to choose from. Can you even imagine the lasting power of such a model?

As it stands today, I find S3 to be a more versatile device with $25 micro SD card greatly increasing internal capacity by 32GB, the bigger screen, and easy-to-extend battery. Native T-Mobile support is big too, customers are tired of high monthly prices, carriers are tired of high Apple subsidies, a lot of risk for Apple vs Samsung on its home turf.

As good as iPhone 5 was, Galaxy S3 already sold 20 million in 3 months and will come dangerously close to its numbers as a single model. Add in the 1000000000000000000000000000000000000 other Android devices, the quality issue with maps/black aluminum, I am not sure if Apple has enough legs after holiday season.

Make that +2 I just ordered two S3's for delivery tommorow, was following the iphone 5 release but nothing made me go omg, so me and the missus can now make use of this Buddyshare thing on the S3 as we are always taking pics of our 22 month old son.

Still love the look and quality of the I5, and love the fluidity of OSX just wish it had that "wow" factor.

 

[faroZ06]

Are there any Mac rumors at 'MacRumors'?
Maybe it's time for a name change.

Yeah, it should be AppleRumors. Actually, applerumors.com redirects you to macrumors.com.

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Uh, yeah. Four slower cores.

Would you rather have a computer with 32 cores (all 486 CPUs), or a computer with "just" 2 cores (new Core i7 CPU)?

32 100MHz processors, if you add the clock speeds, is actually the same as 1 core in a Core i7.

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How can you trust them when they quote faulty test results here:

http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/359037-iphone-5-vs-android-chart.jpg?thumb=y

The Geekbench average score for the iPhone 5 is 1577, not 1640 as claimed by PCMag. The average score for the Galaxy S3 is 1762, not 1451 as claimed by PCMag.

Real sources:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

MacRumors published an article earlier about how the iPhone 5 got a higher score than any other smartphone. That was only based on one test, so it's wise to just discount that. It's still hard to tell which is really faster from user averages.

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How are current game consoles stacking up to these graphics?

Wii: 729MHz IBM PowerPC CPU (1 core), 243MHz "Hollywood" GPU
PS3: 3.2GHz CPU (1 core I think), 550MHz NVIDIA GPU
XBOX 360: 3.2GHz Tri-Core PowerPC CPU, 500MHz ATI GPU

I think the GPU in the iPhone 5 might be better than these, but I hardly know anything about GPUs. The PowerPC processor in the 360 is interesting since you might be able to run Mac OS on it

 

[SpectatorHere]

Playing with my new iPhone, it's hard to notice any difference whatsoever from the iPhone 4. Don't sweat the upgrade if you're on the fence...3 cores or 1 core, it's the same ol' experience basically.

 

[BC2009]

Samsung has Quad core #justsayin

Quad-core CPU, not GPU and only on the international version.

Who do you think did more innovating here?

Samsung took an off-the-shelf Cortex-A9 architecture, shoved in 4 cores, clocked it up to 1.5Ghz and coupled with a giant battery to compensate for the power consumption to achieve performance.

Apple designed their own ARM chip (not using the off-the-shelf A9 or A15), used only two cores for CPU and three cores for GPU, clocked it at 1Ghz with the same sized battery as last year's model to achieve equivalent performance (and besting Samsung's dual core effort for the USA model).

One of these manufacturers is pushing the envelope and the other one is just shoving more parts into a bigger box.

Equivalent or better performance at half the cores and 2/3 the clock speed and half the power consumption is way better. #justsayin

 

[sinsin07]

And yet somehow has worse performance.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410034,00.asp

But specs don't really matter right Fandroids?

Sweet:
"...the iPhone 5 doubles the Galaxy S III's result. It's simply a more powerful phone. ..."

and this:

"A phone's hardware performance can't be taken in isolation, but it's definitely a piece of the puzzle. Based on these benchmarks, the iPhone 5 lives up to the promise of being twice as fast as the iPhone 4S. It's also, for now, the fastest handheld computer sold in the US."