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Apple's anti-competitive behavior with browsers: Why does Apple get a pass?
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No they just randomly re-installed IE after the user had removed it and reset it as the the default browser. They leaned on OEM's to not install the other browsers. It wasn't so much the percentage that got them in trouble but the tactics used to get there.
No, it's not okay, but I really don't care. I can't even tell a difference between Chrome and Safari speed despite the lack of "nitro" in Chrome.
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That totally blew my mind, I never thought about Squirtle being a Squirrel and a Turtle
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That totally blew my mind, I never thought about Squirtle being a Squirrel and a Turtle
I don't care if those tactics are used as long as I can set the default browser.
There's not much point having a third party browser set as default if it's unbearably slow.
I'm talking specifically about on iOS, if that wasn't clear. And to answer, all of the third party browsers are unbearably slow (at least it feels that way to me) on any page which utilises a lot of Javascript.
Apple is dominating the smartphone and tablet market, especially tablets. Android is rising fast on the smartphone side, so perhaps that will spare Apple from an anti-trust situation. For now.
You're talking about an OS for a PC. This is a mobile OS, which should not act exactly like a PC OS. People don't really care which browser they have, and Safari is probably the best choice because of the system integration (even if others could be set as default). I'm thinking that people are just satisfied with Safari.
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Exactly. Few people care about setting a default browser, and only some of those people want to use anything but Safari. I really don't see what's wrong with it.
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Have you heard about the Netscape case? MS actually banned Netscape completely from Windows, and they got into lots of legal trouble. That was so long ago that it's not really relevant, though.
I've never heard Apple users complain on about how the google maps app was so inferior against the android one and how Google didn't update it or didn't allow Apple to implement more back-end services like the android counterparts.
if google wants a fair treatment they had their chance in that case and they blew it
so there.
if google wants a fair treatment they had their chance in that case and they blew it
so there.
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The closed off controlled user experience is what Apple is all about... it's that simple.
However I think it will inevitably change gradually, either because of legal or consumer based reasons.
However I think it will inevitably change gradually, either because of legal or consumer based reasons.
Which is why you jailbreak your iDevice to remove it from the walled-garden that is the Apple iOS. I currently have Chrome as my default browser (on my iPhone 4s) and I am lovin it much more than Mobile Safari. Aside fro ma few quirks like Chrome not opening youtube urls in the Youtube app it works great..Apple has always restricted, "boycotted"(so to speak), sued any company that releases an app that is better than what they currently offer, and don't even get me started on the the Galaxy Nexus issue..
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Either Apple wants to a) cripple the competition or b) keep iOS as safe as they can.
I actually wonder why Google Chrome uses Apple's slower JavaScript engine whe they can try to write their own engine for iOS. Does that long and boring agreement say they can't, or did Google just not choose to do it because they think it's just not worth it?
They know it's not worth it. Why give iOS users the best? Let the iOS user know there is something else better out there if they switch platforms.
Pretty much. Per Apple's terms, Google is required to use Apples version of Webkit (UIWebView) as the Javascript engine and for rendering. Gotta love fair play. Such a win for the consumer.
Lets see do I want more browsers or a more secure OS? Hmmm
If your so mad about Apple not giving developers access to nitro go to Android.
Apple doesn't give 3rd part developers access for very good reasons and I hope it continues to be that way
If your so mad about Apple not giving developers access to nitro go to Android.
Apple doesn't give 3rd part developers access for very good reasons and I hope it continues to be that way
I know that everyone was excited to see Chrome for iOS, and to finally be able to sync with their desktop counterparts, but really, is it Chrome for real? No, it's not.
For me my mobile browser (Safari) will dictate what my desktop browser (also Safari) will be, since I browse on mobile more often. In order to make me switch both sides over to chrome, maybe Google should stop taking shortcuts when making apps and actually put effort in for once.
I don't think they should allow us to change defaults but I believe they should let you open link with third party applications. If you tap the link it takes you to safari, if you tap/hold it brings up the copy/past but also the option to "open in"
To me, it's very simple. He who owns the platform gets to decide. It's actually nice that Android is in the lead in terms of marketshare because it becomes harder to prove that Apple is being anti-competitive even if it poops on the face of Android licensees in terms of profits.
Do you think mobile Safari on iPhone handles tabs the way a "good" browser should?
Do you think mobile Safari on iPhone handles tabs the way a "good" browser should?
Yes.