Both Face ID and Touch ID under the screen can be in the phone at the same time.
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Apple's Craig Federighi: Uncertainty About Face ID Will 'Melt Away' Once People Get iPhone X
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I don't know. If Apple had placed the Touch ID on the back of the phone, I think there would be way more critics out there. Plus, having to pick up the phone and then put your finger behind isn't too convenient from what we are all currently used to.
I would bet my money the notch is there and not a straight bezel because they wanted all four corners equal. IE perfectly rounded to match the round corners of the actual device. And in that case the notch is unavoidable. It gives the iPhone a distinctive look that no other competitor has. Apple always had its signature home button. Now it’ll be the signature screen shape, at least until the technology from their patents to place all those sensors and camera underneath the glass is possible.
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Because if you blend the notch via software you defeat the whole purpose of removing the bezels in the first place. They wanted every corner of the screen to expand to the edge and match the exact curve around the corners of the device. Also, if you “fix” the notch via software you’ll end up with burn-in that would be noticeable if you went to an app that utilizes the full display.
The funny screenshot mockups of people “fixing” the notch via software are funny. They cry the notch ruins the symmetry, yet all their mockups do the exact same thing as they’re complaining about. Often having two totally different roundness to the top “fixed” corners to the real bottom corners.
the notch makes it easy to see which way is up.. which end the lighting port is at.. where the side buttons are.. etc.
once (if) there are no more buttons or ports and the phone is able to work in any orientation (ie- upside down), then the indicator won't be helpful but for now, it's helpful.
that aside, i personally like how it looks anyways.. and liked how it looked when one of the leaks showed it.. i recall saying something like 'i hope that's how the real model is' and being chastised over it.
From Apples description, it appears the time it takes for Touch ID to unlock once you touch is "way" longer than the time FaceID takes once you look at the screen. The total time it takes to unlock from reaching the phone in your pocket until it is unlock is most likely on par or faster with FaceID. This is however, just pure academic discussion. Once the device is is out we will know.
Yeah that’s one side effect of the notch I never thought about.
I too personally like the notch. As I mentioned in my previous post. It enables all four corners to perfectly match the roundness of the actual iPhone.
What is the benefit of faceID vs touchID? With Touch ID I could unlock my phone while it was still in my pocket. It was open & ready to go by the time it was in front on my face. Even if faceID is nearly instantaneous it’s still going to be slower than touchID, so why is it better?
Why not have a SOS feature... if the face recognition notice 3 rapid blinks invoke password lock
touchID does one thing.. reads your fingerprint to unlock the phone.
faceID is a freaking 3D scanner that you carry around in your pocket.. (and can also be used to unlock the phone)
the latter will most definitely be improved upon in the following years (range/angle/precision/object recognition/etc).. touchID is a dead end in these regards.
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as far as using it for unlocking, i'm about 100% positive you're going to have situations where faceID is faster/easier than touchID.. and yes, vice versa as well.. but your example of 'unlocking while in the pocket' is certainly not a strong example or oft used method.. it's done, sure.. but hardly a lot.. less than 1% of the time.. much less.
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according to Apple at least, faceID is also MUCH more secure than touchID.
(20x more)
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Well, they haven't exactly given away any exact details regarding how it is implemented either. Just some vague description how it is supposed to function. There may be more to it than we can imagine. Time will tell.
That's why they added the notch, so people would not notice the camera bump.
According to Craig, FaceID can read your face from "extreme" angles. If so, you probably just need to turn your head and look at the phone without touching it and then turn your head away when done reading, in which case it beats TouchID.
If those times are rare, then it really does not matter how they unlock your phone. If emergencies occur frequently, them maybe you bigger problems than how your phone is unlocked.
Same here. I use my phone while it is lying on the table or on my work desk (and thus not even close to being tilted towards my face) all the time. It is usually also located way to the right of my main computer screen. Which is why I have both my thumb and index finger registered to unlock.
i'm pretty sure if you're sitting at a desk and the phone is laying on the desk then you'll be able to unlock the phone without moving the phone or craning your neck .. the sensors don't need to be perpendicular to your face in order to get a read. (for example.. look at the picture in the top post of this thread)
further, instead of using your thumb or index finger to open it, you'll be able to use any finger from either hand to do it.
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This is my thought too. I want to see what happens when I touch it because it often brings up things, like the Apple Pay screen, that if I touch it again it might just buy something. I never use touch ID in a pocket except by accident.
I have little doubt that FaceID is state of the art, and the [honestly sometimes pretty silly] worries posted in these forums don't convince me otherwise. People are always pining for innovation from Apple, but then do their best Chicken Little when they actually get it.
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Well, if you're going to go through the trouble of stealing a phone, it's likely far easier to lift the subject's thumb print, make a thumb model, and use TouchId.
Please let us (and Apple) know when either situation actually happens. It won't.
nope still got to touch the phone and swipe up for the face id to work, touch ID still wins as I can reach over and press the home button without even looking at phone and it unlocks.
Indeed. That would have caused a whine-fest of epic proportions.
And, the Earth would likely react by tilting an extra five degrees for a few seconds, causing massive tsunamis world-wide.
maybe not at first but you'll possibly be able to use siri instead of the swipe..
like, look at then say "open sirisame" .. or smthng..
ie- hands free usage of the phone
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heh, i don't think i'd be against a touchID button on the back.. in many instances, it would be in a good spot for using it.. (but i do think, if given a choice, i'd prefer faceID over either placement of the button)
that said, if touchID comes back to this line of iPhone, i hope they can do it where the whole thing can sense your fingerprints.. as in- touch it anywhere and it's able to make a read.
(assuming there's alternative usage for such a technology.. if all it could do is to read your fingerprint than nah.. probably not worth the insane development costs)
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Prefer TouchID? Get the 8 or keep your 5S, 6, 6s, SE, 7!
Confident enough in FaceID and really want the X? Get the X.
Simple.
Personally, I'm getting an 8+ and letting time settle the effectiveness/security of FaceID.
Having the bleeding edge is not on my list of priorities. And it will leave an X for someone
that really "needs" one come October 27th.
Confident enough in FaceID and really want the X? Get the X.
Simple.
Personally, I'm getting an 8+ and letting time settle the effectiveness/security of FaceID.
Having the bleeding edge is not on my list of priorities. And it will leave an X for someone
that really "needs" one come October 27th.
You only need to swipe up if you intend to enter the home screen according to Craig. Otherwise you just look at the phone, which I believe will be faster and more convenient way to read new notifications and messages on your lock screen.
I also believe the time required to enter your home screen from pocket until you look at your phone may be equal or a bit faster with FaceID, since TouchID requires a bit more time to scan and process the info. Will see in due time.
Oh ok. That makes sense. I mean honestly, Touch ID is IMO still more convenient, but Face ID is excellent. I just feel like a feature as big as this coming from Apple wouldn't be half done. They did it right.
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Biggest publicly traded company. Ok, still huge, well regarded, heavily looked at etc.
Lol PLENTY of people doubted Face ID before seeing it in use. Look at ANY article released before the September 12th announcement about Face ID and every comment section is filled with people who said Face ID is a bad idea and they should've just stuck with Touch ID...
Of course Apple makes mistakes. Every year they do. They do things to this day that make me scratch my head. All I'm saying is that it's foolish of people to judge Face ID before it was even announced. A feature as big as that was in the works for YEARS same there's no way it would be half assed. That's it.
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Lolol let's compare Touch ID and Face ID... Not the Mac Pro or any of the things you listed. A major feature such as Face ID HAS to be perfected before launch. They didn't just drum it up overnight. Touch ID got better over time and so will Face ID.