Apple's Craig Federighi: Uncertainty About Face ID Will 'Melt Away' Once People Get iPhone X

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  1. Act3 macrumors 68000

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    I doubt it will work with mirror sunglasses.
     
  2. TMRJIJ macrumors 68040

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    Don’t think your math is correct on this.

    Touch ID:
    1. Pick up phone
    2. Place Thumb on Home Button
    3. Press Home Button
    Face ID:
    1. Pick up phone
    2. Smile :)
    3. Swipe up
     
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    flat five macrumors 603

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    #79
    FaceID is this ->

    original 'slide to unlock' except now, it's secure instead of a free-for-all.

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    (idk, a different way to look at it is all i mean by that)


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    improved UI though since it's a more fluid gesture instead of the skeuomorphic switch sliding.


     
  5. matty.p macrumors 6502

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    I mean probably because for 90% of the time when using it in portrait you are getting more real estate. You may disagree subjectively with the choice but obectively at least in height it will give you more space.
     
  6. redheeler macrumors 604

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    The passcode is still there with Touch ID. Touch ID is not still there with Face ID. If someone ends up not liking Face ID, or it doesn't work reliably, there is no going back to Touch ID. That's why people are worried.
     
  7. Act3 macrumors 68000

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    Press and touch home in same motion
     
  8. TMRJIJ macrumors 68040

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    You press the Home Button to get to the Home Screen
     
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    When the notch first appeared in the rumors and people started saying they didn't like it I was indifferent. It didn't look like something that would really be annoying. Seeing the videos and backgrounds on the screen for the last few days however, I've changed my mind. That notch is annoying, especially when playing videos. I know that for a speaker and for Face ID and for the selfie camera that they need an area for those items to physically exist, but I think either a slightly taller phone with those items on a real, physical bezel or just blacking out the notch ears would be a better choice.
     
  10. Act3 macrumors 68000

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    Touch and press in same step then. Whatever... to be technical, you don't have to pick up the phone
     
  11. matty.p macrumors 6502

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    By default with video the notch is blacked out via the software.
     
  12. mozumder macrumors 6502a

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    I'm just wondering if it's going to be like that HP face tracking camera that wouldn't track black people...
     
  13. TMRJIJ macrumors 68040

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    Looking at your phone and swiping up is the same step as well then
     
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    you don't actually have to smile.. it's :
    1) pick up phone
    2) swipe up

    (i mean, in most cases, you're already looking at it due to step1.. picking it up)
     
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    If Face ID doesn't work then by all means lay into Tim Cook and Craig Federighi. If it does work, then why was the passcode a viable or acceptable backup to Touch ID but it's not a good backup for Face ID? It's still there and it still will work.
     
  16. TMRJIJ macrumors 68040

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    You have something against smiling, bruh?
     
  17. moderngamenewb macrumors 6502

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    It’s funny, the optical drive was the one change I wasn’t upset about, because shortly before my 2010 MacBook Pro started dying was around the time the 2012 Retina MacBook Pro was announced and I had just gotten a USB Blu Ray Player.
     
  18. matty.p macrumors 6502

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    It uses infrared. It’s mapping the geometry of a persons face. The race and skin color shouldn’t matter. The other companies are just using the front facing camera and comparing photographs essentially
     
  19. iansilv macrumors 65816

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    LIKE OUR FACES??!?!? APPLE'S GOING TO MELT OUR FACES OFF WITH FACE ID!!?!?
     
  20. EdT macrumors 68000

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    No. The primary devices for Face ID are the IR dot light source and the IR sensitive camera. They are looking at the way your face is physically laid out, not what your face looks like as far as color.
     
  21. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040

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    The same could be said about the attitude some have towards competing devices as well.
     
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    Same for me, I figured it'd be like android. But seeing how much effort they put into the front facing camera, I'm on the bandwagon for the X:p
     
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    This is exactly what I am thinking. Maybe iPhone XII.
     
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    dude, they literally announced a brand new high-end smart phone with updated design and features.. and touchID.......
    about 3 minutes before they announced faceID..
    o_O

    if you don't want faceID.. and you'd rather have touchID..
    why would you not get an iphone 8?
    what feature(s) are you not liking on the 8 that you want on the X?
     
  25. EdT macrumors 68000

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    There are bound to be some physical circumstances that will prevent any system from working. Having wet fingers stops Touch ID now. Hiding a majority of your face in a ski mask would also probably defeat Face ID. From what Craig has said in the last 2 days, if you turn off the eye detection part of Face ID then the glasses probably wouldn't matter, but the overall security would be less.
     

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