Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
There's always a trade off when choosing materials, using the cheaper aluminium and it is less rigid, bends to easily, using the harder more brittle aluminium and it snaps when over stretched.
I am not talking about changing grades of aluminum, I am talking about returning to a sturdier design. This is the first iPad design with this issue so prominent, if at all.
 
question is the photo of this story a new fresh out of the box ipad? unlikely. if it is then for sure it isn't a 400 micron bend. it could be the image provided with this story is inflating the actual issue and if so it is no wonder people are reacting as incredulously as they are over this?

Use these Out Of The Box pictures instead of the OP MacRumors photo as a guide.
bend.jpg

bend.jpg


macrumors.jpeg


.
 
  • Like
Reactions: groovyd
So nothing is perfect is the takeaway here right? I still remember when that $1.5 billion dollar mirror made for the Hubble Space Telescope was a little off and all the picture were fuzzy. It was only off by one-50th the thickness of a human hair. I guess if Apple has made it they would say no need to worry, it happens. Google Hubble's Mirror Flaw if you're not familiar.
 
question is the photo of this story a new fresh out of the box ipad? unlikely. if it is then for sure it isn't a 400 micron bend. it could be the image provided with this story is inflating the actual issue and if so it is no wonder people are reacting as incredulously as they are over this?

i guess the big issue here is say you do have a bend as shown and try to return it what is to stop them claiming that you bent it and that it wasn't bent like that out of the box? If it is over 400 micron will they take the customer at their word?

regardless i guarantee next year's lineup of ipads won't have this issue.

No, as has been said before, this is from a post in MR, it was used for a week while travelling and stowed away in a backpack.
 
Cheap, a decent screwdriver snaps, it's hardened.

Back to engineering school for you. While hardening the tip of a screwdriver decreases wear over time, hardening the entire shaft would be dangerous, making it brittle and prone to catastrophic failure.
 
I am not talking about changing grades of aluminum, I am talking about returning to a sturdier design. This is the first iPad design with this issue so prominent, if at all.

That might be, I don't have access to the actually engineering drawings, is the material the same, has it the same thickness.
 
So nothing is perfect is the takeaway here right? I still remember when that $1.5 billion dollar mirror made for the Hubble Space Telescope was a little off and all the picture were fuzzy. It was only off by one-50th the thickness of a human hair. I guess if Apple has made it they would say no need to worry, it happens. Google Hubble's Mirror Flaw if you're not familiar.

That was a Metric vs "English" "Standard" confusion, as I remember.
 
Back to engineering school for you. While hardening the tip of a screwdriver decreases wear over time, hardening the entire shaft would be dangerous, making it brittle and prone to catastrophic failure.

Sorry mate, I use them daily and some of them snap, I use the ones made for electricians, they are fully hardened although a bit less on the shaft, they bend slightly then snap.
The shaft on the screwdrivers we use has a thick (few mm's) plastic coating for safety.
 
Who buys these things anyway?

They're incapable of truly replacing a laptop and they're only marginally better than any other run of the mill tablet. You don't get a file browser, you can't connect devices to it, you can't connect headphones to it (unless DONGLES!), and for any audio pro Apple suggests wireless which has latency which negates being a pro.... AND it's stupidly expensive. Any task on this is just a dreadfully gimped experience of a proper laptop/desktop.

Apple's throwing this at consumers when they should be focusing on making great desktops. It's funny how everyone forgot about their tablets after the novelty of them wore off; real work is done on a computer and the same tasks on a tablet can be done (and them some given cellular service) on your PHONE that's on you at all times anyway.

My god... what a useless product and despite all this, there's people buying them that's causing THIS ultimately pointless problem? Wow.

Agreed. My 3 iPads and Kindle have been trickled down to my son. I have no need for them. Its a bigger iPhone and just clumsy and bulky to me. Its my iPhone or Mac, thats all I need. The novelty of a tablet dwindled quick for me a few years back since the debut of the iPad in '10.
 
Yes, the whole market is down from the beginning of the year. Apple was ~$174 a year ago but has fallen ~36% from its peak just 7 weeks ago.

I am painfully aware I bought 5 weeks ago. Luckily not too much. I should have known when I bought shares instead of new iPhones for the gang that something was afoot at the circle K. Why did i buy into a company that I didn't absolutely have to have their latest product. lol I just thought I would milk the suckers.
 
That might be, I don't have access to the actually engineering drawings, is the material the same, has it the same thickness.
All good questions. I am wondering what the mindset was behind the decisions on these changes. Unfortunately, with Apple's recent behavior, I am inclined to think any changes were solely made with profit and aesthetics in mind rather than quality and durability. Which is why this particular episode is so offensive to me as a customer.
 
Who buys these things anyway?

They're incapable of truly replacing a laptop and they're only marginally better than any other run of the mill tablet. You don't get a file browser, you can't connect devices to it, you can't connect headphones to it (unless DONGLES!), and for any audio pro Apple suggests wireless which has latency which negates being a pro.... AND it's stupidly expensive. Any task on this is just a dreadfully gimped experience of a proper laptop/desktop.

Apple's throwing this at consumers when they should be focusing on making great desktops. It's funny how everyone forgot about their tablets after the novelty of them wore off; real work is done on a computer and the same tasks on a tablet can be done (and them some given cellular service) on your PHONE that's on you at all times anyway.

My god... what a useless product and despite all this, there's people buying them that's causing THIS ultimately pointless problem? Wow.

You are right. 99.999% of all of Apple's users are what we'd call "media consumers" and will never create any content at all. iPads are used for watching movies and surfing the 'net. For those uses, these really ARE better than a notebook computer. They are lighter and easier to drag around but still larger than a phone. I have an older 2nd gen iPad I used as a eBook reader.

Apple's device is the best reader for ePub books that I know of. But no way would I consider writing a book on an iPad. But I might consider using one as a drawing tablet if only I could draw freehand.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rbrian
Apple fans dropping $2k are outraged . Non Apple fans probably thought this was an onion Article and are still in shock, and most people (Apple/non apple) are laughing at the people trying their hardest to defend this..... yes the day has come where some will defend even an obvious Flaw such as very obvious bent new device .

Big difference between outraged and laughing . About $2K invested :p
You don't know if it's an obvious flaw or wishful thinking it's an obvious flaw. I think the day has come and gone when anyone says anything, without proper facts and comes to a subjective conclusion.
 
I am painfully aware I bought 5 weeks ago. Luckily not too much. I should have known when I bought shares instead of new iPhones for the gang that something was afoot at the circle K. Why did i buy into a company that I didn't absolutely have to have their latest product. lol I just thought I would milk the suckers.

Luckily, with AAPL, what goes down must come up and break newer barriers;):):apple:, we just have to play long.

Told to ignore daily fluctuations by the investment gurus, now we have to see a 7+ week fluctuation as something we have to ignore unless we are day-traders:(.
 
All good questions. I am wondering what the mindset was behind the decisions on these changes. Unfortunately, with Apple's recent behavior, I am inclined to think any changes were solely made with profit and aesthetics in mind rather than quality and durability. Which is why this particular episode is so offensive to me as a customer.


I do understand, shaving off just 0.1 mm of the aluminium case would safe millions of $, I once worked in an American chocolate factory, choc bars should be 50 grams, any above that would cost millions a year, on the other side, they can't sell them if they are less than what the actual weight on the package says.
 
  • Like
Reactions: myrtlebee
You don't know if it's an obvious flaw or wishful thinking it's an obvious flaw. I think the day has come and gone when anyone says anything, without proper facts and comes to a subjective conclusion.
Funny you say that , and how do you come to that conclusion ? cause Apple and non Apple fans are laughing at the Apple statement , this is anything but subjective conclusion , but verging on delusional .

I think we are in an age where facts in fact don’t matter ..... it’s About feeling ;)
 
I honestly think they are having fun with this. Nowhere are they saying to return it if it's bent. They are saying just about anything else.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.