And from 2002 you still haven't learn that in this period Apple stocks always go down because of the always founded speculation that "this year iPhone" sales are bad, and then increase again after the financial earnings?
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Apple's Dan Riccio Says 2018 iPad Pro 'Meets or Exceeds' Quality Standards of Design and Precision, More Info to Come
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And from 2002 you still haven't learn that in this period Apple stocks always go down because of the always founded speculation that "this year iPhone" sales are bad, and then increase again after the financial earnings?
Yeah, if Apple stated it won't get worse then they are in fact wrong, but not about the tolerances, 0.4 mm isn't that much.
And JD Power consistently reports that Apple customers are highly satisfied with the brand. If you read this thread, you'll understand that
If an iPad has a 400 micron bend, Apple says it's okay. According to Apple, worse bends were acceptable in the past and the purchasing public was happy with that. So yes, bending within spec is okay and Apple has never said otherwise. If something escaped the factory out of spec, Apple will address it. You have not provided any evidence that Apple has said that an iPad shipped outside of spec is okay, nor that Apple's 400 micron spec is not okay.
I don't get all the rage. Apple says they set their tolerance level at 400 microns. All the pictures shown on the Verge and this thread are way above 400 microns so they would be easily replaced. Have people reading comprehension gone that bad?
Yes, the whole market is down from the beginning of the year. Apple was ~$174 a year ago but has fallen ~36% from its peak just 7 weeks ago.
Yeah, they are, the problem is, alternatives are pretty weak. I buy Apple stuff not necessarily because it’s awesome, but because every company markets top the 80 percentile masses leaving the most discriminating customers continuously disappointed.
Then, the 80%-ers leap around saying “well most people don’t want what you want, they want what WE want ... specs don’t matter to us and we’re proud of it!”, and so goes technology, perpetually hamstrung by the low-expectations of the majority.
Remember, critical thinking/abstract thinking begins at an IQ of ~110, and a full 66% of Americans are below that. These are the people that set market expectations. If you realize things are not what they should be, you're likely in the minority, so I don't know if Apple is out of touch with reality, or if its critics are?
They said bent iPads are not a defect and they are acceptable according to their guidelines. They have not stated they have any plans to alter their tolerances or to alter their manufacturing process to remedy the issue. My point was that the other poster was claiming they are going to alter their manufacturing techniques and/ or tolerances to remedy the issue. He is putting words in the company's figurative mouth. They never said such a thing.
What are you talking about? How'd you come to that conclusion based on what's in that picture? The camera bump would create a uniformly graduating straight gap. Not what's in that photo. There's an obvious curve. Now, the cause of that curve can be up for debate, but saying the camera bump is the causing it to lift (and curve I guess) is a non-starter.
Becoming? It's been a issue for a long time.
For example try running a mbp at full load on just the gpu. And the batteries in their phones degrade to fast to keep up with voltage and amperage load in under a year.
But it looks nice so keep on beating physics apple.
I did read the article. Apple admits that some iPads ship from the factory with very slight bends. The spec for that is 400 microns. Dan Ricio stated that the 400 micron spec is tighter than for previous generations. So, years ago, some iPads would have shipped from the factory with more than 400 microns of bow. If that wasn't a problem then, why is less bend a problem now?
If something escaped the factory out-of-spec, Apple would address it as they always have, by replacing such units and rectifying the process.
Nobody has yet produced a statement by Apple indicating that units showing more than 400 microns of bend have been shipped from the factory and are deemed okay. If you're comfortable with thirdhand hearsay, that's on you.
You're right, I am not an engineer. However, they have billions of dollars and hundreds of engineers and it seems like they don't know much either if this issue is happening. They should have made the product with thicker aluminum walls to assure no curvature if they know so much about the properties of aluminum.
Yes I'm currently looking for hardware and apps alternatives... doing lists
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"you still haven't learn that in this period Apple stocks always go down because ... "
How did you come by this conclusion; what did I post that told you I didn't learn about Apple's stock movements? I am holding on to it from 2002.
However, I've never seen a 36% drop in less than 7 weeks. Still not worried - just an observation of the extreme fluctuation.
MBP throttling was fixed, Lithium ion batteries degrade, especially if you charge them 2 times a day as some heavy users do.
Aluminium is not cast, it's machined, you can't bend back aluminium, stress cracks will appear.
That's why I said "Seems like you don't know much about the properties of aluminium."
I’m not worried about the bend out of the box, I’m more concerned about the images of the iPad used for this article, that was in a backpack.
I suspect this iPad may be prone to bending with little force like being put in a backpack
As expected lots of useless, meeningless posts here.
99% of posters on this forum don’t even own the latest iPad Pro.
My iPad Pro 12.9”, 1TB LTE is perfection in every way.
PS;Maybe Apple has different QC standards for lower end iPads, just guessing...
99% of posters on this forum don’t even own the latest iPad Pro.
My iPad Pro 12.9”, 1TB LTE is perfection in every way.
PS;Maybe Apple has different QC standards for lower end iPads, just guessing...
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Yes, this, it's click bate, they should retract that picture.
And I said you're right, and then you should probably read the rest of my reply to see what they could have done with their billions and their hundreds of engineers. I'm sure they have more insight and more than the one idea I just proposed. But you are not seriously telling me there was no possible way they could engineer an aluminum product that doesn't ship bent, are you?
The only reason these iPads are bending in manufacturing is one of two things (or both): their greed has led them to use as thin a piece of aluminum as possible (ie, as less amount as possible of aluminum to save a few cents on each iPad's production cost), or it was just a lazy design choice purely to make the product thinner and more aesthetically pleasing. Neither is okay.
The old design had better rigidity because of the long arc on the back. The minute I saw this design I knew from a structural aspect it was going to be weak and cause issues.
So when it's normal like Apple wrote, then i don't wanna buy another iPad anymore and the next one will be an Surface.
That is the problem with modern journalism - click bait first . Facts don’t matter