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Why are they announcing rather mundane features months in advance when 9 months later it’s still only a “semi-usable” internal product? Shouldn’t they wait until the features are semi-stable before even announcing them? Announcing stuff when it’s available for developer or public beta testing is better.

I certainly don’t expect it, but I do miss the days when Apple announced a cool feature at WWDC with an arrival date of “today”.
 
“Working to some extent” is not shippable by a serious company.
Yeah but they did it with maps, continuity, personal hotspot, airdrop, iCloud sync, the new photo app, dual sim support, maildrop, screen time, shortcuts, airplay, home app and HomeKit, SharePlay, iPhone mirroring, external display support, the list goes on forever… so I honestly don’t believe they have a product that works 69/80% of the time because they would have shipped it like they did with all the rest.
 
In the past, apple would invite some people in the media to Cupertino try and do damage control. The fact that they haven't done this now means whatever they have is not working well enough.
 
The prerecorded keynotes feel like adverts :( Not only does live keynotes create a human connection between Apple and the outside world but it also forces them to actually MAKE the features they announce in time for WWDC to do a demo.
THIS ⬆️ ⬆️ 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣ Percent !! Steve making the first Public Phone call on an iPhone ordering Lattes for everyone at the Moscone Center! Also now it seems all about the slick Camera moves and the swooping in and out to different Presenters. I still recall the live Demo Bungie did of Halo at the Moscone Center rendered in real Time. Brought the roof down people went berserk. Off course a couple of weeks later Bungie was acquired lock stock and two smoking barrels by Mr Softy but that's a different convo.
 
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Yeah but they did it with maps, continuity, personal hotspot, airdrop, iCloud sync, the new photo app, dual sim support, maildrop, screen time, shortcuts, airplay, home app and HomeKit, SharePlay, iPhone mirroring, external display support, the list goes on forever… so I honestly don’t believe they have a product that works 69/80% of the time because they would have shipped it like they did with all the rest.
Sure, but it's much more important to get right the tasks that Siri/Apple Intelligence are slated to do. Being sent to the wrong address by the original Maps, or inconveniences in using those other functions, is less of a problem than if the higher-level, system-wide interplay of functions that Apple claims it's working towards didn't work right nearly all the time. You'd be encountering those flaws nearly every time you use your iPhone, over and over, across the board, making the whole experience a mess rather than just some apps or functions not working entirely properly.
 
Yeah but they did it with maps, continuity, personal hotspot, airdrop, iCloud sync, the new photo app, dual sim support, maildrop, screen time, shortcuts, airplay, home app and HomeKit, SharePlay, iPhone mirroring, external display support, the list goes on forever… so I honestly don’t believe they have a product that works 69/80% of the time because they would have shipped it like they did with all the rest.
I would almost guarantee that this feature was further away from 1.0 Apple Maps than any of us would like to admit and Apple Maps navigation was ROUGH. I think LLMs possess a unique ability to damage your brand's reputation in ways that bad route selection does not.

Also, I've been using iPhone Mirroring all product year with only one or two minor hiccups by my memory. It has been a fairly rock solid 1.0 feature. Hell, the iPhone widgets with actions can even pop the mirroring window open for you. It is great.
 
You have the LLM. You have the voice to text and text to voice engines. I really can't understand how they cant manage to make it work to perform actions on OS level. It's the easiest thing. Personally I would not be able to create LLM, text to voice and voice to text engines but if i had them, I could easily write code for siri to perform actions and read data from images, categorize them, put them into local databases to remember. How they can't do these? Who are the software engineers? Middle School students from summer camps?
 
A bonk on the head for buying something based on promises and not what it does at the time of purchase. You have no one to blame but yourself for being taken in on this. It's a good phone. But if you had a good phone already and replaced it knowing full well these past years that Apple is rolling out features across the year. I mean. Look in the mirror, that's the person responsible.
They missed the year pal. And more beyond that. Stop defending their misrepresentations.
 
Sure, but it's much more important to get right the tasks that Siri/Apple Intelligence are slated to do. Being sent to the wrong address by the original Maps, or inconveniences in using those other functions, is less of a problem than if the higher-level, system-wide interplay of functions that Apple claims it's working towards didn't work right nearly all the time. You'd be encountering those flaws nearly every time you use your iPhone, over and over, across the board, making the whole experience a mess rather than just some apps or functions not working entirely properly.
It’s already a mess the experience…
Just setup a new MacBook Pro, not even the time is showing correctly on the welcome screen. It is not syncing with your local time.
Small details but that’s the way macOS is welcoming you. A mess.
 
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I would almost guarantee that this feature was further away from 1.0 Apple Maps than any of us would like to admit and Apple Maps navigation was ROUGH. I think LLMs possess a unique ability to damage your brand's reputation in ways that bad route selection does not.

Also, I've been using iPhone Mirroring all product year with only one or two minor hiccups by my memory. It has been a fairly rock solid 1.0 feature. Hell, the iPhone widgets with actions can even pop the mirroring window open for you. It is great.
Try to use mirroring when you have two user accounts logged into the Mac…. Good luck..
they obviously didn’t even try that case scenario. Same goes for continuity, handoff, hotspot, unlock with Apple Watch etc. a mess.
 
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Try to use mirroring when you have two user accounts logged into the Mac…. Good luck..
they obviously didn’t even try that case scenario. Same goes for continuity, handoff, hotspot, unlock with Apple Watch etc. a mess.
Yeah, that is sort of an edge case, however, damn that sucks.
 
Announce a product that doesn't really exist or work.... what could go wrong?
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No it’s marketing. You falling for it isn’t dishonest when there was an older product available that didn’t paywall you to the newer product.
Repeating myself here but... "marketing" is when you have somethign that works.... fraud and hishoensty is when you have a concept that doesn't really exist or work anywhere near what you intended.

In Apple's case, they "marketed" the benefit of purchasing specific hardware as being a product (software - Siri) that would make that device sing. Instead, where Elizabeth Holmes copied Steve Job's look, Apple coppied her demo process and "false advertising" of a product that does not do what it claims.


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I see the issue here.

You’re mistaking personal buying decisions for corporate obligations. Let me clear that up for you: Trust is earned over time, not granted blindly based on marketing. If someone chooses to preemptively believe every corporate promise without waiting for delivery, that’s a them problem, not an Apple problem.

Expecting a trillion-dollar company to be flawless is naive; making purchase decisions based on wishful thinking is irresponsible.

But hey, if accountability makes you uncomfortable, I can see why you'd prefer to shift the blame.
First, You are replying to the wrong person. I never said I bought a phone based on Apples’s promise, that was the OP. I agree that it is a bad idea to buy a product on a future promise—which I said.

Second, I think you missed my point, so let me say it in a simpler way that hopefully you can understand.

Lots of people trust apple. That trust has been eroding for a while. Apple AI is eroding it faster. That is Apple’s problem.

But sure, attack me and say i don't believe in personal accountability and I want to blame people and point fingers. You know nothing about my values. You didn't even follow the conversation correctly before jumping to conclusions and being all “internet though guy”. When you think people disagree with you, do you normally resort to personal attacks? People can have different opinions, and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
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