She’s LGBT. This article also gives some insight into her family situation. https://leanin.org/stories/christie-smith
Glad they’re looking into diversity hiring, but clearly a long way to go.
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Apple's Diversity Chief Christie Smith Leaves the Company
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She’s LGBT. This article also gives some insight into her family situation. https://leanin.org/stories/christie-smith
Glad they’re looking into diversity hiring, but clearly a long way to go.
I am all for diversity. However, not diversity for the sake of diversity. I am always skeptical of these sorts of positions at large companies and deans of diversity (or similar) on college campuses. Just seems like virtue signaling with extra steps.
In any case it is funny to watch people hate this woman as much as Angela Ahrendts (who deserved the criticism).
In any case it is funny to watch people hate this woman as much as Angela Ahrendts (who deserved the criticism).
When the values have not actually permeated, guess what you need? Someone to get it to that point. Fairly obvious.
Diversity is a dreadful idea. If all the most competent people happen to be white, then you should hire them, end of story. Thank god we haven't reached "50% white 50% black" or "50% women 50% men" yet
As an African I couldn’t help but have a good laugh - the twist captures perfectly where the train is headed - hire based on emotions and sentiments and not on competence! 😏 But you would also agree with me that, emotions/sentiments/group affiliation have and continue to play a huge role in the creation of people with competence. Assuming you and I started at level 1 two decades ago, and because of certain privileges you hold in society, you were provided certain opportunities (or perhaps it was easier to get certain opportunities), then you’re likely to gain quicker the competence required for a level 10 job than I would. So while I would usually not agree to hiring just for the sake of inclusion, I still think the fundamentals ought to be assessed properly and equal playing fields/opportunities given to all right from the onset.
The thing about it is that at some companies (not necessarily Apple’s) there are individuals who don’t get chosen for high ranking positions specifically because of their race/gender.
Racism and discrimination is a tough convo, but it’s very real and just because you don’t *see* it or experience it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Minorities can bring a different perspective and outlook to an executive team. A lot of these Caucasian male (and sometimes female) execs are out of touch with certain aspects of reality/culture. I’m sure they’d even say the same thing.
EDIT: Everyone disagreeing is totally out of touch. Sad shame.
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I believe that diversity is a very important and pragmatic thing. If you only have a workforce of certain demography it could actually make your products objectively worse for the general audience.
However, that's being said corporations like Apple don't really care about this. They hire roles like this not because of pragmatic reasons but primarily as a social responsibility measure and to keep left-leaning vocal part of their workforce and press less angry. That's why they need to hire another black/LGBT/woman as a token and keep rolling.
If they wanted to do this properly, the diverse workforce would have to be a mechanism to achieve better products not a goal and gender/ethnicity of the person in charge shouldn't matter at all.
However, that's being said corporations like Apple don't really care about this. They hire roles like this not because of pragmatic reasons but primarily as a social responsibility measure and to keep left-leaning vocal part of their workforce and press less angry. That's why they need to hire another black/LGBT/woman as a token and keep rolling.
If they wanted to do this properly, the diverse workforce would have to be a mechanism to achieve better products not a goal and gender/ethnicity of the person in charge shouldn't matter at all.
What ever happened to hiring the best qualified person for the job color should have nothing to do with it
Lots of white privilege in this forum
So only white people can work at Apple? 😂
Please don’t conflate having a gay man in corporate leadership with having a racially diverse corporate leadership (as the person you were replying to was presumably discussing), because homosexual isn’t a race.
Humanity is diverse. So this is a perverse statement.
Further, the entire point is that you are not hiring the most competent people when you start from a certain group of people being entrenched in power and hiring people who they think are exactly like them. Google has done an internal study on this and found this to be statistically a problem.
But at the moment we have a society where there are many junior leaguers who are operating above their pay grade due to discrimination and bias pushing many others down the ladder.
Exactly - hire the best!! I completely agree with that. But are the systems and processes of creating the best fair, or are they lopsided so that you end up having only or a disproportionate amount of a certain demographic as the “best”?
How about we quit judging people on the color of their skin, what they do in the bedroom, how old they are, how much they weigh, what color hair they have - and judge them on their merits alone?
Give me a team of people who can work together, without backstabbing each other, who have the education, aptitude, skills and teamwork capabilities, are willing to be led, and willing to take accountability for their work - and I'll set new standards in a team's performance. Further, the members of my team after a year or two will be ready to go out and lead teams of their own - if that is their desire.
It begins with putting together a solid team, with a manager who knows how a team operates and plays to their strengths. It's honesty, respect, growth and expectations, and these go both ways. It's never been about color, unless someone decides to make it about color - then that individual can find another team to poison.
Give me a team of people who can work together, without backstabbing each other, who have the education, aptitude, skills and teamwork capabilities, are willing to be led, and willing to take accountability for their work - and I'll set new standards in a team's performance. Further, the members of my team after a year or two will be ready to go out and lead teams of their own - if that is their desire.
It begins with putting together a solid team, with a manager who knows how a team operates and plays to their strengths. It's honesty, respect, growth and expectations, and these go both ways. It's never been about color, unless someone decides to make it about color - then that individual can find another team to poison.
The problem of that "hire only based on merit" approach is that in Apple and in the society in general, there are people who are actually racist. Like it or not. So there has to be some form of governance about this and push for fairer environment. So I disagree with those saying this is a non-sense role and there is no problem.
However, at the same time corporates are struggling in deciding if they want to solve the actual problem or just play socially responsible political games.
However, at the same time corporates are struggling in deciding if they want to solve the actual problem or just play socially responsible political games.
Given the quarantine, I’m a little surprised there’s anyone left on earth that feels such a strong desire to spend more time with their family that they’ll quit their job.
“To spend more time with their family” is typically code for “about to be embroiled in a scandal”.
hmmm
“To spend more time with their family” is typically code for “about to be embroiled in a scandal”.
hmmm
This statement makes no sense. Banana is yellow, so this is a perverse statement. Humanity being diverse has nothing to do with shoving incompetent people into workplaces so simulate it. We are already seeing the situations where more and more incompetent people get shoved into the position they are not suited for the sake of "diversity".
Apparently, the idea of diversity is just including more and more minorities and fewer and fewer white people. For example, the US population is approximately 60% white. But at Apple, the number of new white people hired...is down to 40%, and Apple is proud of it! Speaking about hypocrisy.
Guess she didnt tick enough boxes. I would assume she is a lesbian. Now if she was a black lesbian she might have been able to stick around.
Dollars to donuts I know what the person who replaces her will look like. Since there is no other category of human that can work towards a diverse workplace.
Dollars to donuts I know what the person who replaces her will look like. Since there is no other category of human that can work towards a diverse workplace.
Some people are always too quick to point fingers saying such and such a company has a diversity problem because all the board of directors are white or all the top executives are white or all the top senior managers are white. These people need to look closely at the black community, their world-renowned celebrities, their world-renowned sportsmen and women, their world-renowned musicians, their world-renowned people of incluence and go look at who they employ as their main manager/agent and they will see that a huge majority of these black people have white people as the main person of choice. They hire the best people in the business to get them to be the best and it just so happens that the majority of these people hire to help black people like Oprah Winfrey, Will Smith, Lionel Ritchie, ex US president Obama, all have one thing in common, they all have white people as their agents or management team, white people who have helped them get where they are today.
Oprah Winfrey is considered one of Amercia's top black female celebrities and the person who has helped her become that, a white woman. Obama the first black US president and who helped him get there, his campaign manager, a white man. Behind neary every sucessful black person has been a white person but yet no one seems to moan about why these people of colour do not hire their own kind. I am sure there are very good black talent agents but why didn't Oprah Winfrey employ one. I am sure there are very good black political campaign managers so why didn't Obama employ one to be his? And the reason is because they hired the 'BEST' people for the job.
If blacks are not hiring their own kind, how do you expect whites to hire them.
Oprah Winfrey is considered one of Amercia's top black female celebrities and the person who has helped her become that, a white woman. Obama the first black US president and who helped him get there, his campaign manager, a white man. Behind neary every sucessful black person has been a white person but yet no one seems to moan about why these people of colour do not hire their own kind. I am sure there are very good black talent agents but why didn't Oprah Winfrey employ one. I am sure there are very good black political campaign managers so why didn't Obama employ one to be his? And the reason is because they hired the 'BEST' people for the job.
If blacks are not hiring their own kind, how do you expect whites to hire them.
They won't because even they don't know what they are talking about. They'll probably respond with one of the plethora of memes currently being repeated ad-nauseum on Facebook and other social media because they have no idea how to verbalize it themselves.