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Swapping the wheels and inflating the tires is trivial.
a torque wrench is about a 100USD that's not a lot of money for a useful tool - it's not an F1 car.
I just went over to summer tires this week.


Forcing Apple to allow its batteries and screens to be sold as official spare parts would not require -any- change to the design. But would allow competent consumers and third parties to prolong the life of an iPhone, iPad or Mac that would otherwise, say after 2-3 years, be outside of economical _Apple_ repair.

Basically you have no idea what you are talking about.
Exactly, they want you to renew products every year.
 
Right to repair is dumb. Don't care if its Apple or anyone.

Repairability itself is an antiquated notion. It does not take any of the modern principles of design or recycling or finance into consideration; all of which are huge factors into why products should not be designed to be repaired.
Thats a poorly worded way to bring up a downside to right to repair. I dont think companies should be obligated to make more parts than needed to sell the device. Apple may want the device back. The may want ti know what broke and why and what breaks the warranty or not.

People arent looking at the generous return and exchange policy for damaged iPhones may be on the chopping block if right to repair becomes a thing. There is a downside to the consumer in order to pay for the parts to supply right to repair. I dont want a crappier iPhone because some business is trying to make money off of fixing hardware.
 
"He claims that Apple opposes repair programs to get people to buy new devices." Well that is crap. I guess in this day and age you can just make any old crap up and state it as truth. Didn't the last administration change the libel laws so people like that could be sued, promises made, promises kept. LOL

I think the record is pretty clear, if independent repair shops want access to any of this all they have to do is get one or two people trained, not very hard nor expensive. Oh, it may be for the fly-by-nighter shops, here today, screw up some repairs, gone tomorrow. But legitimate professional repair shops, not a problem. There re actually quite a few around where I live.

So please explain why getting appropriate training and certification is a bad thing? You need it for some aspects of automobiles (obviously not changing a tire), but more intricate things that matter to operation and safety. You need it to maintain furnaces, to repair plumbing and wiring, etc, etc, etc
Did you read The whole article?

“The program is free, but repair providers must have an Apple-certified technician perform the repairs, which is a barrier to entry for some shops like Millman's. Even with this program, some parts, like iPad displays, are not provided, leaving Apple and AASPs as the only repair option.”

This guy, Millman, is specifically complaining about not being able to source iPad screens to do replacements. Did you see that, or are you just glossing over it, so it better fits your narrative?

And I agree with you that it seems “in this day and age you can just make any old crap up and state it as truth.” Explains why all these brainwashed people believe Trump about “The Big Lie” (I’m surprised the idiot didn’t insist on calling it “The Huge, So Huge You Wouldn’t Believe It Lie“).

Anyhow, good night.
 
Swapping the wheels and inflating the tires is trivial.
a torque wrench is about a 100USD that's not a lot of money for a useful tool - it's not an F1 car.
I just went over to summer tires this week.


Forcing Apple to allow its batteries and screens to be sold as official spare parts would not require -any- change to the design. But would allow competent consumers and third parties to prolong the life of an iPhone, iPad or Mac that would otherwise, say after 2-3 years, be outside of economical _Apple_ repair.

Basically you have no idea what you are talking about.
I did say that swapping the tires is trivial. I do have that torque wrench. Still if I had to pick between your tire changing skills/tools and the dealership complete toolset and diagnostics that happen during the tire change, I’ll choose the certified ones... a tire change should be preceded and succeeded by many checks. Since the wheels stay stored for long they should be balance checked, integrity checked on the spot, the brake system/pads/fluids/lines/pump/etc are checked, the previous tires wear pattern for anything obvious. They read the computer for any anomaly codes. They have diagnostics tools not available to anybody else.
The analogy is more to say, that yes sure, it will be probably good enough if I change my tires, have done it many times before... but for example I go to lap days and tracks and feel way more at peace going “the certified way”. Also, putting NEW tires on a rim, is definitely no trivial task...

I did say also that “I’m not too sure myself” about what would it entail to make the full battery change loop consumer friendly (if the car analogy is anything helpful). According to you it requires zero changes, when a battery fails the user/third-party will be able to assess that it naturally died and not because of anything related to the electronics of the rest of the phone. So you are correct, I totally have zero ideas of what I’m talking about.
 
Whoa, apple has been using their insane power to crush common sense legislation that would be good for the environment, it’s customers, and small businesses because it threatens a tiny, tiny percent of their profit??? Shocking.
 
I had lost an iPhone5 during playing snow 6 years ago. I managed to find it back 5 days later after the rain washed out snow.

Then the phone can not charge anymore. I bought a lightning connector part from ebay with 5$ and replaced it by myself. The phone still works today. My son use it as a dummy contact phone + FindMy sensor :)
 
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Apple: We are so very concerned for your quality of life that we only want you to get the best possible repairs, which is why we oppose 3rd party repairs. Get your devices repaired with us, we know best!
Customer: Okay, repair it then.
Apple: Oh whoopsie, turns out we've meticulously engineered it to be unrepairable. Just buy a new one.
Customer: But unlike you, the guy down the street can actually repair it, if you just gave him the parts.
Apple: LALALA I can't hear you!!
 
Apple: We are so very concerned for your quality of life that we only want you to get the best possible repairs, which is why we oppose 3rd party repairs. Get your devices repaired with us, we know best!
Customer: Okay, repair it then.
Apple: Oh whoopsie, turns out we've meticulously engineered it to be unrepairable. Just buy a new one.
Customer: But unlike you, the guy down the street can actually repair it, if you just gave him the parts.
Apple: LALALA I can't hear you!!
How true. Just like many of their followers, Apple does something that's negative, they take the ball and go home when called out on it.
 
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Apple does not care about the environment. Simple as that.
So what? I honestly don’t care about the environment either, like billions and billions and billions of other people.

If people really cared about the environment they’d selflessly drop out of modern society and live naked in a treehouse.
 
It's a mutual benefit. Imagine how things would be without Apple, Google, Amazon, etc.
And of course, nobody is in business to be a charity, money needs to be made, otherwise it's not a business.
And if these companies make a ton of money, it's because they know how. Remember, like most companies, Apple started small, two dudes in a garage; had their struggles through the years and finally got to the top.

So if they now provide us with useful devices and services, how come they became the evil megacorp bilking you?
They are not taking money out of anyone's pocket by force. Each person is free to chose whatever they want.
And you must have Apple devices, otherwise how do you explain why you spend your time in this forum.
It seems you are just repeating what other people say just to get attention.
Because these mega corp´s sole focus in the end is to max profits without a conscious, all other values are secondary at best, imo.
 
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couple of years of ago i took my friend's iphone 7 to apple cause it won't turn on, they wanted $360, not to repair, but to replace out of warranty.
I have a similar story - my iPhone 5 was eligible for a free battery replacement within the worldwide Apple iPhone 5 recall but because the edges on my iPhone were scuffed the Apple Store wanted to first replace my casing for almost €200 before I'm eligible for the free battery. I bought a battery on eBay and replaced it myself. Took less than an hour.
 
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Once I accidentally broke my iPad Pro 9.5" (1st gen) display.
I took it to the Apple Store and they told me my AppleCare had expire a month ago. :eek:
The Genius then talked to a Manager and in the end they honored it as it if was under AppleCare, I just happily paid the deductible, and got a replacement unit! 🥳
Ok. What does this have to do with right to repair ?
I look at it this way now. In 1978, I pulled my engine out of my 1968 Pontiac Firebird and replaced the camshaft in the engine with a Clinton car repair manual. Now with my 2021 GMC Acadia with all the computers in the car I would not even touch it. I have the dealership do everything. I lease it for 3 years and then turn it back in. All my car warranty's are covered under those three years and they even do the oil changes for me and take care of the tires. The things you need cost money and you just budget for it in life.

Also I was an Apple Level 2 Repair Technician, certified in 1982 to repair All the Apple products up to the Original Mac Plus models.
so you can’t change your cars battery?
 
I have a similar story - my iPhone 5 was eligible for a free battery replacement within the worldwide Apple iPhone 5 recall but because the edges on my iPhone were scuffed the Apple Store wanted to first replace my casing for almost €200 before I'm eligible for the free battery. I bought a battery on eBay and replaced it myself. Took less than an hour.
Imagine if you are unable to purchase those genuine parts like battery, screen ,etc, because Apple told the manufacturers that they cannot sell them to anyone else other than Apple. This is what's happening. Most parts available via 3rd parties that anyone can buy are not Apple genuine parts.
 
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I can't speak for you, but I'l not trust my New car to some shade tree mechanic. The innards, like an iPhone, are too complex to trust to a fly-by-night "repair person". I'd like mi mechanic AND my electronic repair person to, at least, know about the specific model.
I once needed a repair to my 1974 BMW 3.0CS. The person asked "is that a 4 cylinder or a 6 cylinder engine?" I went elsewhere.
Its not difficult or expensive to become Apple Certified.
Here's one that, probably is close to you:
 
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Right to repair is dumb. Don't care if its Apple or anyone.

Repairability itself is an antiquated notion. It does not take any of the modern principles of design or recycling or finance into consideration; all of which are huge factors into why products should not be designed to be repaired.
Wow. I can’t believe you would rather waste more energy replacing something than fixing it. “Recycling” takes a lot of energy if it’s even done at all in some cases. Just because you “recycled” something doesn’t mean it’s actually being reused. Do you replace your car when the tires are worn out? Think of how much coolers lights could look if you couldn’t replace a bulb when it burns out and instead replaced the fixture?
 
This is dumb. If customers felt they weren’t being served - if they were unhappy with the repair policies - they wouldn’t keep buying from Apple.
What’s the alternative? Not own a smartphone? We are addicted to these bright battery filled candy bars and Apple knows it.
 
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