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Don't know if this has been asked before so will just ask... how will you unlock the phone in complete darkness, in a dark room where the only light will be from the iPhone. Will FaceID be able to unlock in total darkness?
 
Silly MacRumors readers making a big deal of a nonexistent problem. In how many robberies did the thief quickly grab someone's finger to unlock the phone before running away with the device?

And people seriously believed that Apple didn't even think of the fact that people may wear sunglasses while using their phones? They honestly thought Apple went as far as having super realistic masks made in order to make sure Face ID was secure but the thought never crossed their minds that they might wear sunglasses?
 
OMG... so many critics and complainers.

Meanwhile, I'm personally excited with this product for a multitude of reasons. I'm definitely getting it. Hopefully I don't have a long wait and my pre-order can be delivered on Nov 3 or very soon thereafter.

Here are the highlights for me:
-Gorgeous design and craftsmanship based on the videos and photos. I'm sure it'll look even much better in person.
-No bezels, except the top notch which does not bother me (I know I'm in the minority on this one).
-I can now easily unlock my phone through Face ID even if I have sweaty fingers or when swimming in the pool or beach.
-A 5.8'' screen which is bigger than the 5.5'' screen of the iPhone 6/7/8 Plus with a footprint that is only marginally larger than that of the current 4.7'' iPhone.
-OLED screen!
 
Has there been any comment about the angles it can work at?

On one of the Youtube vlogger's posts, I saw a man training Face ID, and he put his head back at a very significant angle. It still registered it. So I think it's similar to Touch ID, in that the portion and angle recognized depends on how you train it. So for example, with Touch ID, I tend to make sure I train it to recognize the sides and very tips of my fingers, so that I could unlock it with any grip. -- But with Face ID, I imagine there's a point where your head would be too far back, and would obscure your face too much to be valid.

I think it was iJustine's youtube channel.

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Yes, it's in her "iPhone X and iPhone 8!" video at the 5:33 mark.
 
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You must’ve never got out of the pool or had messy hands and had to use your wet hands on touch ID

Or live in cold/dry climates. I need to reprogram Touch ID every few days/weeks depending on the season as my hands get dry/crack etc.

Or do a lot of physical labour, where you hands get rough, scratched, cut etc.
 
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Random FaceID thought.

I am maybe most excited as it relates to apps. Could be less convenience than TouchID for ApplePay, but I use my Watch for that. With apps I always tap on the app and then have to go down to the home button for ones that need authentication. No longer.

Just sit there and smile with your stupid grin while it logs you in!
 
I still don't see any real benefit over Touch ID.

They've replaced it with something that's more convenient in some and less convenient in other ways, works slower and has more potential of someone else unlocking it against your will.

Not saying Face ID sucks, but shouldn't the new thing be significantly better and not just different and for many people even worse?
I have a right thumb that says you might be fortunate to see no value despite the left one agreeing with you. Problem is I want to use my right thumb to unlock my phone, and apparently the fact that I haven't been able to keep it from chafing over my entire life (don't recommend anything because I promise I've tried everything) means I get to reprogram the phone every couple weeks or so. If FaceID requires a similar approach I likely don't have much life yet to live based on what's happened to my face to cause it.
 
I guess in Apple's vision of the future, there's no sharing - iPhone X will only allow you to register a single face! WTF????

My wife and I routinely hand each other our phones when we can't do something ourselves (e.g. "honey can you start navigation for me - I'm driving") This was always ultra-easy - because every iPhone since iPhone 6 allowed you to register multiple fingerprints - neither of us had to remember the other's lengthy password.

Here comes iPhone X and everyone's an island again :-(

What's next - everyone in a family has to buy their own iPads because the iPads only allow a single face?
 
I'd say it lowers the barriers considerably, since they don't even need to touch you to unlock your phone with Face ID.

You obviously didn't read what was written. If you feel you need security then you shouldn't use Touch ID or Face ID. You should have your phone set to password only and choose a secure passcode. Under current US law the court can require you to provide your fingerprint but cannot force you to divulge your password.

Don't know if this has been asked before so will just ask... how will you unlock the phone in complete darkness, in a dark room where the only light will be from the iPhone. Will FaceID be able to unlock in total darkness?

Yes. That's why it has the IR illuminator. Like night-mode on security cameras, it floods your face with light which is invisibly to the human eye but can be easily seen by the camera.
 
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No sunglasses is quite a big one. Now i do have quite a few real use case in which i would truly miss TouchID (riding my scooter and stopping by to check maps / message & well...sunglasses....i spend summer vacations with sunglasses on)
 
Yep. I like Craig.

The parts of keynotes with Craig on stage are always the best in my opinion. And the "fail" with FaceID - for me it actually shows that not the whole show was scripted, which is something I appreciate a lot.
On the other hand, they should replace Phil on stage. I cannot see any excitement in his presentations.
 
I guess in Apple's vision of the future, there's no sharing - iPhone X will only allow you to register a single face! WTF????

My wife and I routinely hand each other our phones when we can't do something ourselves (e.g. "honey can you start navigation for me - I'm driving") This was always ultra-easy - because every iPhone since iPhone 6 allowed you to register multiple fingerprints - neither of us had to remember the other's lengthy password.

Here comes iPhone X and everyone's an island again :-(

What's next - everyone in a family has to buy their own iPads because the iPads only allow a single face?

Then you and your wife can quickly enter the passcode and move on with your lives. This isn't the end of the world. Just a couple years ago, that was the ONLY way to unlock a phone.

WHAT SAVAGES APPLE IS TO MAKE US USE A PASSCODE IF WE WANT TO SHARE OUR PHONES!!! WHY APPLE WHY!?!??!?!
 
You obviously didn't read what was written. If you feel you need security then you shouldn't use Touch ID or Face ID. You should have your phone set to password only and choose a secure passcode. Under current US law the court can require you to provide your fingerprint but cannot force you to divulge your password.



Yes. That's why it has the IR illuminator. Like night-mode on security cameras, it floods your face with light which is invisibly to the human eye but can be easily seen by the camera.

Ah awesome, thanks for clearing that up ;)
 
Here's an idea. What if someone could invent a scanner that could read a fingerprint? It'd take less time than farting about with facial foibles. Crazy sounding perhaps. But it might ... just .... work ...
 
So then it can easily be used while sleeping. It can easily be used by cops.


I guess you are unique and sleep with your eyes open. LOL. And, yes, the ubiquitious problem of police officers sneaking into your room is on everyone's mind. You are lucky that those cops who have been sneaking into your room never thought of holding Touch ID to your fingers.
 
I've personally been robbed at knife point two times, successfully, that is. The thieves got away with my phone and wallet. Both of those guys at least were so on edge during the whole shebang that I would think pointing the phone at my face or trying to wrestle one of my fingers for a chance at opening the phone were quite literally the last thing on their minds.

So that scenario really doesn't worry my in the least.


These wild theories are a hoot, you have to admit. At what point will people realize that if someone wants you to unlock your phone, it's no different than telling you to hand over your wallet, etc. All they have to do is threaten you and you are going to do it, at least most people won't get shot or stabbed to keep their wallet, etc. Also, at what point are people going to learn that a stolen iPhone has no value to 99% of thieves? What are they going to do with it?
 
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So then it can easily be used while sleeping. It can easily be used by cops.

Lets not forget the phone requires a passcode after two failed attempts for FaceID. If your phone is in the hands of the police, you better believe multiple officers/attempts will be made to try to open it, and they will lock it on themselves.
 
These wild theories are a hoot, you have to admit. At what point will people realize that if someone wants you to unlock your phone, it's no different than telling you to hand over your wallet, etc. All they have to do is threaten you and you are going to do it, at least most people won't get shot or stabbed to keep their wallet, etc. Most thieves have learned that phones aren't worth holding on to, especially iPhones as they are easily bricked, tracked, etc., and have little or no value to the average thief.
 
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