Apple intends to be paid for developers using their IP for commercial use regardless of how the transaction is facilitated. And it is their right to do so.
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Apple's Fines in Dutch Antitrust Case Hit 50 Million Euros
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Are you still using the original iPhone? and did that original iPhone allow you to use apps that weren't put on it by Apple?
Please quote from the Terms and Conditions where I consented to x.
Yes, I still use it as a phone for legacy purposes.
The terms and conditions didn’t indicate either way that you were or not allowed to use apps not put on it by Apple.
I always say, if you want to create your own rules, create your own platform. No one is forcing you to use Apple devices, if I wanted a trash heap I would use an Android device.
How so?
Gonna say Apple will leave the EU?
If so… Au revoir Apple, fair competition first!
Others will fill the gap, and life will go on…
It doesn’t matter what is in the terms and conditions. That type of contract where it is all or nothing is referred to as a “contract of adhesion“ in business law. Courts generally do not enforce all the clauses in such a contract because contracts are supposed to be “a meeting of the minds” between both parties who are supposed to hash out the terms between them.
So if you want to be able to install what you want on your devices, you use a “trash heap”?
So you cannot find any clauses in the contract which support your case.
The contact between Apple and I does not consider applications delivered outside the App Store
No, just Android if wanted a trash heap device. They are such junky little bits.
At some point, some company is going to just decide to divest entirely from Europe and the ridiculous regulatory overreach that has entrenched itself there.
Reading makes you great.
If the ACM decides Apple's proposal is not adequate, the ACM says that Apple could be subjected to another order with "possibly higher penalties" to encourage Apple to comply.
$50M was the first try, more to follow.
Apple forgot that the EU has cross country law enforcement agreements with USA.
Well the thing is, today we have apps many people would need for their job, that doesn’t exist in the AppStore because of its limitations.Only problem is there are Mac apps that aren't available through the Mac store that I need for work.
I have to have those apps for my livelihood, end of story. And I can guarantee that the developers of those apps want my money.
So it would be nice if developers were Forced (cause we know most developers aren't changing unless forced to) to use the APP store and it's guidelines to make sure I'm getting a secure as possible APP.
Same things with Mac AppStore, if it was forced to be the only one; I can guarantee you the majority of developers will quit doing Mac apps and leave the platform.
Games would be completely killed as steam wouldn’t exist, whine, unreal engine, Unity etc etc
Forcing the AppStore = loosing apps and less choices.
Open system= more apps and more choices except those who only want the AppStore
My trust in any given institution is irrelevant, it is a numbers game. The more companies I am forced to give my personal info to increases the likelihood that my information will be "breached", we read about this almost daily, very large companies experiencing hacks or breaches.
Under the current iOS ecosystem I provide only Apple with my information, why on Earth would I want to have separate accounts with Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Meta (Facebook), Steam, Epic and all the indies?
It doesn’t matter what Spotify or epic complains about. ACM doesn’t enforce their requirements. ACM used their complaints to start an investigation of anti competitive behavior
Just say you hate android.
for a trash heap device, it has a very large adoption in non mobile phone settings.
Ah, so essentially it’s just for apple to have an easier time to double check developers and send them the right bill
You already provide Apple, its subsidiaries and its partners with your information.
I got it, the thing is, a lot of people in here really think it will end at $50M.
Apple might get a win here and there, but there are too many lawsuits and bills going on around the world, all pulling the same rope.
The water is boiling hot to not get Cook’ed.
Nope
I myself, having tried android devices have had a mixed bag. I haven’t tried the newer phone by Google though, things hopefully would have changed since I last used Android.
I would really like to see how big the percentage of iOS users is that want alternate payment systems in their iPhones... I cannot imagine them being very high... it is also not very clear who is pushing these agendas and to whose advantage...makes absolutely no sense... do those politicians do any research about the user base? I certainly don't want any sideloading of apps et al. ... if I would like to have that I would use Android! makes no effing sense... it's like making Android/Google responsible (with fines) for every malware app on Android phones