My 2012 MBP i7 have been running 24/7 for the last 7+ years and still rocking. I have replaced a swollen battery and weared-out SSD after its 6 years old, which is inevitable, and lucky the 2012 MBP is totally serviceable. Now I am looking at the market with non-replaceable battery and soldered SSD - thinking my MBP 2012 may as well last longer than those new boys with premium price tag....
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Apple's First MacBook Pro With a Retina Display Will Become 'Obsolete' in 30 Days
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We don’t know for sure yet, but it would be kind of strange if the non-Retina 2012s received 10.16 and the Retina ones didn't.
I say this because the 13’ non retina model was sold until 2016.
Then again, maybe none of the 2012s will, but I suspect that’s not the case.
Either way, we’ll find out soon!
Hoping for one more OS update, if not gonna have to order a new Mac. Also hoping for a 10th Gen refresh of the 16” at WWDC and Apple Card financing.
OK - give us some examples of PC vendors that support consumer computers for 8 years.
I'll start - here's Dell's info: "Get the most out of your investment by fixing your hardware challenges rather than purchasing a new system. Dell provides quality hardware repairs for Dell Laptops, Tablets, Desktops and All-in-Ones that are less than 5 years old and that are no longer covered by a limited hardware warranty."
Why is everyone saying "if Apple says it's obsolete, it's time to upgrade"? If it does what you need today, run that MF till the wheels fall off. No?
This would be mine. Still a fantastic machine. I always max the specs that can’t be user-upgraded, so it’s humming along fine. I’ll probably upgrade if the upcoming 14”/scissors/ARM machine is good.
I bought a 2012 non-retina in 2016 from Apple and I am counting on one more update as well. I think Apple goes 5 years past the last sell date with OS updates???
Why? If the hardware isn't failing and you are happy with the performance just keep it... No need to "upgrade"...
I've had my 2012 rMBP since launch and it still runs fine updated on Catalina. I keep it for backup.
Chiming in with my own heartfelt nostalgic love-in for my late-2013 15" 2.4 i7 16GB MBPr. It has been used almost daily since I got it, and has travelled to over 100 countries. It still feels like new to me. I replaced my own battery (that was no fun - you have to essentially take the entire machine apart) and my own SSD (the original one died but was backed-up - that was a quick, easy fix). Other than that, it has been perfect and continues to be the best piece of hardware I have ever owned. Like some other posters, I could easily justify "upgrading" but I don't feel any excitement toward the new machines and won't replace this one until it really gives up the ghost. I'm not exactly following why anyone would retire their machine just because Apple indicates it's obsolete. I will continue using mine and fixing it by myself (or paying someone to if required) until I can't use it anymore.
Also, a question for those balking at the "only-8-years-of-hardware-support" thing - what other manufacturers are backing up their machines from 2012 at this point?
Also, a question for those balking at the "only-8-years-of-hardware-support" thing - what other manufacturers are backing up their machines from 2012 at this point?
100% agree. Last week I took delivery of the 16 inch and am amazed by the few physical differences between it and my 2012 MBPr 15 inch.
It was really ahead of its time when it was released. My 16 inch feels more like a spec upgrade than a "newer" laptop. ?
The 2015 MPBr has been bullet proof and is the best quality and longest last product gadget that I have ever bought.
Not true. MacBook Pro 2015 had upgradable SSD, OWC sells SSD upgrades for it.
Consumer Hardware is EOL after maximum of 5 years, typically 3 years if you don't buy the premium stuff, only very critical BIOS updates beyond that. Even on servers and workstations equipment from 2012 is now EOL. That's why you get old servers from that era for nickel and a dime on ebay that are working perfectly fine.
Obsolescence isn’t only about lack of support from the OEM. It’s also about how the product itself is designed.
You can take a 15 year old Acer laptop (that was half the price of said MacBook Pro), install the latest version of Windows 10 and also replace wearing parts like hard drive and battery using simple mechanical locks.
It's a machine that's had official support for eight years - I'm sure there will be very few other manufacturers close to that length of time for a single model.
Also, when your machine eventually does die (as everything will), you can take it to an Apple Store where it can be maybe used as credit towards a new machine, and / or taken to be recycled. If I remember correctly too, Apple will also accept non-Apple devices for recycling.
If you are putting devices to landfill: you are the problem. Not Apple, or any other electronics company.
the damn thing is a fossil at this point. no one else would support something so old lol
I disagree, it wasn't ahead of its time, it had all a laptop needs.
There isn't a lot of innovation over the last (8) years, Intel dropped the ball big time, most people get by on a laptop like the 2012 model, most don't need the extra 30% percent or so that CPU's got faster.
I am using a 2012 MM and a 2012 MBP(Non retina), both are more or less the same internally(Upgraded RAM and SSD), they chuck along, only minor inconvenience is the Graphic card, I can live with that.
The few things which got significantly faster is SSD and the Thunderbolt port, that's it.
At some point...in the not too distant future...yes. I didn't think Catalina even ran on a 2012 MBP
I always felt like the GPU was underpowered on that first rev. The spec bumped it pretty soon after if I recall correctly.
I remember the rMBP launch at WWDC as if it were yesterday..still the best MBP out there, and I will be keeping my 2015 until it gives in.