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For those of you who replaced batteries on this unit, did you DIY or have apple do the replacement?
 
Why? If the hardware isn't failing and you are happy with the performance just keep it... No need to "upgrade"...
I already addressed why in the thread - its not meeting my kid's needs, i.e., performance is too slow
 
My grandpa is still using my 2012 rMBP. It was a great machine aside from some initial problems with the display image retention, which Apple quickly sent off to repair. They replaced the LG display panel with Samsung and it was great after that. Over time the hinge got a little loose, which sometimes happens as laptops get older, but I kind of wonder if it stems from that repair.
 
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How about the USB-C magnetic cables?

I just googled it and found some products out there that I didn’t know about. Thanks!


 
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I just bought a mid-2012 MacBook Pro. Upgraded the HD to 500GB sad, put in 16GB RAM. Very sweet little machine 😎

That’s the non-retina model, not what this article is about. Great that those had user replaceable RAM and hard drive! I sure wish current MacBook Pros had memory slots and M.2 storage, rather than everything being soldered to the motherboard.
 
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That’s the non-retina model, not what this article is about. Great that those had user-replaceable RAM and hard drive! I sure wish current MacBook Pros had memory slots and M.2 storage, rather than everything being soldered to the motherboard.

Fair enough. Just thought to mention it as to how upgradeable they are, retina or not.
 
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My 2013 11” Air still runs like it’s brand new. It’s pretty amazing.
 
Looks like its time to retire my 2012 MBP, it had a good run.

This was the best MBP Apple ever produced imo

Ah the nostalgia! My last Apple laptop was a 2006 Macbook Pro Core 2 Duo. I loved that thing so much (it ran Snow Leopard and was replaced in 2013) and I miss it. It still worked just fine when I replaced it.
 
I knew this was coming. I still use and love mine.
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I already addressed why in the thread - its not meeting my kid's needs, i.e., performance is too slow

Sorry, didn't go through the entire thread. Even with a SSD and increased RAM?
 
Obsolescence isn’t only about lack of support from the OEM. It’s also about how the product itself is designed.

You can take a 15 year old Acer laptop (that was half the price of said MacBook Pro), install the latest version of Windows 10 and also replace wearing parts like hard drive and battery using simple mechanical locks.
That doesn't answer the question
 
So Dell supports computers for up to five years, and that is an example you use to counter Apple's support for 8 years?

The original poster keeps saying that 8 years "isn't really" a long time to offer hardware support. My response was to show me a PC vendor that supports their hardware for more than 8 years if that "isn't really very long". I gave him an example that Dell only supports their hardware for 5 years....meaning the OP is going to be hard pressed to show me a PC vendor that supports for 8 or more years....in other words he is FOS....you misinterpreted my example.
 
I still have a MacBook from 2006. It still works. It’s still has a few functions that I use from time to time. For instance the old version of iTunes would convert your tunes to MP3 something new versions of iTunes will not do. I keep my old Apple products. I keep them until they won’t turn on anymore. I have an iPhone two, four, and six that I keep around and use in the house for various tasks. The iPhone 6 works with my iPhone 8 as a second phone in the house.
 
I bought a 2012 non-retina in 2016 from Apple and I am counting on one more update as well. I think Apple goes 5 years past the last sell date with OS updates???

I believe OS updated are minimum as long as AppleCare, but often far longer. Typically CPU or GPU features wind up being why Apple drops support for older models.

With Apple trying to get services revenue, they are going to be financially encouraged to have those services support as many machines as feasible - including PCs, Android, and older iOS/Mac operating systems.
 
The original poster keeps saying that 8 years "isn't really" a long time to offer hardware support. My response was to show me a PC vendor that supports their hardware for more than 8 years if that "isn't really very long". I gave him an example that Dell only supports their hardware for 5 years....meaning the OP is going to be hard pressed to show me a PC vendor that supports for 8 or more years....in other words he is FOS....you misinterpreted my example.

Gotcha, my bad.
 
People often harp on apple for getting rid of MagSafe connectors, which I TOO miss, but if one thinks about it in overall context, apple want to more to USB-C and thunderbolt. 3, and use a combined cable for both power and data transfer/connectivity. At the time I think it wasn’t really possible to get both 85W power delivery AND all the port throughput that they wanted. they could have certainly left POWER to just be a single cable and leave the ports as well, but I think they wanted to move in the direction of power/data coming on the same single/few cables for all.

At this point, we can get 100W power/many GB Data throughput AND monitor/video IN/OUT ALL on the same single USB-C cable.. that’s pretty incredible.
 
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I guess my Late 2012 iMac might be soon. It is currently my main Mac at home.

I got it at launch in 2012, BTO with the i7, 680MX GPU, and 1TB Fusion, and was originally going to replace it around 2015-16. It is just still so fast and powerful for what I do with it, I haven't needed to replace it.

I recently purchased an Samsung X5 TB NVMe drive that I am going to use as my external boot drive on it, using the internal Fusion Drive as a cloned back up. I am sure it will still last me a while longer.
 
People often harp on apple for getting rid of MagSafe connectors, which I TOO miss, but if one thinks about it in overall context, apple want to more to USB-C and thunderbolt. 3, and use a combined cable for both power and data transfer/connectivity. At the time I think it wasn’t really possible to get both 85W power delivery AND all the port throughput that they wanted. they could have certainly left POWER to just be a single cable and leave the ports as well, but I think they wanted to move in the direction of power/data coming on the same single/few cables for all.

At this point, we can get 100W power/many GB Data throughput AND monitor/video IN/OUT ALL on the same single USB-C cable.. that’s pretty incredible.
Why not both?

Besides, it kind of makes them look a little foolish when viewing their old advertisements:

 
8 years of official hardware support is pretty good.

How lucky for them that you think so. If I told customers that after 6 years, we think you’ve used our products enough & shouldn’t get software updates, and after 8 years you won’t even be able to get parts, I’d never make another sale again, be ridiculed as a fly-by-night sham, and be out of business in no time.
 
That rings a bell, it’s probably since the native resolution was so dang high. It was very ambitious at the time! I dug a little deeper and the 750M did have 2GB of VRAM rather than 1GB, so actually you may be right that it helped with the high resolution, even though it wasn’t noticeably faster.

My wife’s 2012 Retina MacBook Pro 15” works great, she hasn’t updated to Catalina but she could. She’s a bit more conservative than I am, I’m always jumping right on updates. 😂 I bought it for her a couple years ago off craigslist on the cheap, since she was using a 2011 MacBook Pro without a Retina display, and that display looked so awful! Man, once you go Retina there’s no going back.
It was most pronounced to me with the iPhone 4. Game changer
 
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Just bought this machine like a week ago in maxed out CTO spec for 450$ With just 208 cycles on battery. Wanted to buy fancy new iPad Pro keyboard for 350$ (actually 400$ here in Europe) but for couple $ more I think this was no brainer purchase.
I Repasted MBP with Grizzly Kryonaut and damn this machine is great ! Feels like brand new actually :D tried som FCPX editing and 4K is handled flawlessly. All in all great great machine.
 
As of right now I’m still using a Mid 2012 15” Retina MBP but my new 2020 13” Pro is coming tommorow to replace it. I guess I have pretty good timing. Wonder if I’ll be able to keep my new 13” until it’s obsolete as well.
 
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