Isn't your post contradicting itself!?
You get OS support as long as a machine is supported ... it is until at least October next year.
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Isn't your post contradicting itself!?
You get OS support as long as a machine is supported ... it is until at least October next year.
FYI, if anyone has a bad keyboard or track pad and the battery needs service, you may be able to get all of that fixed for $200 if an Apple Store is open. I got my battery serviced about two years ago and they replaced the whole upper unit because the batteries were glued. $1000 fix for $200. If they’re out of parts, you may luck out on a new Mac.
Aw man look at all those I/O ports! Miss them. Better repairability as well! Honestly the size never bothered me. The new MBP's might be thinner but man those were versatile machines back then! A TRUE POWERHOUSE!
Great era. My early 2013 Retina 13" MBP is ticking along with all original parts including battery. Only visible wear is the cable at the MagSafe end and tape has been keeping it together for the past three years.
Their higher end laptops actually last longer and stay in use longer than cheaper laptops would. My late 2013 MacBook Pro is still going strong and is a daily user since the beginning. The majority of the laptop is recyclable with the aluminum chasis, so anyone throwing any computer in the "landfill" is doing a dis-service to the planet. Recycle, or better yet - reuse it if it still functions.
I see that the servers, switches, professional workstations at work get EOL'd at 5 years.
I ordered this, my first Mac, on day one and 8 years later it’s still my main Mac for work and it still works just as flawlessly (after a recent battery replacement), and it‘s still mint surprisingly. It’s like this thing is frozen in time. I think largely because I stopped updating after Mavericks (until very recently I had to update to El Capitan for work software compatibility issues). It has just been so smooth, fast, and reliable. The only bad thing about being frozen in time is I haven’t been able to use some newer (but not necessary) hardware and software products with it, and it has in some ways become more isolated from my device ecosystem. But it was really just bought for one purpose: to do my specific type of work, and that it has done impeccably even until this very moment. For other uses, I got myself a Mac Mini and iPad Pro, on which I do update the software. I‘m not even done with this rMBP. I feel like it could go for another 8 years if I wanted.
The GPU of the following year was a minor bump from the 650M to the 750M. Hard to tell the difference, it was basically just a small clock increase.
Edit: they kept the 750M in the 2014 model as well.
Isn't your post contradicting itself!?
You get OS support as long as a machine is supported ... it is until at least October next year.
I don't think so...I'm running a 2010 Mac Pro with Mojave....computer is long past obsolete.
Mine is still running well, and I still use it a bit as a stationary computer hooked up to a TV and receiver. I orderedt it basically day one maxed, and other than getting the screen replaced almost immediately, and the GPU fault about 3 years ago gave me a new MB, battery, and shell the thing has been extremely reliable. I'm a structural biologist, and I have used it to solve and refine several protein structures that previously I relied on servers or my mac pro (I would sometimes use my 13 2010, but it was painful). I finally upgraded to a 16 inch end of last year, but don't see retiring the 2012 in the foreseeable future.
you definitely should open the mac and clean all the dust inside, after that the kernel task will sleep and your mac will be as a new
Got it. I just remember the display being insanely awesome and there being some irritation around not being able to push it as well as many would like given the potential for pro apps etc
You said you didn't even think Catalina runs on a 2012 AND say At some point...in the not too distant future...yes.
So...yeah, seems like contradicting, no big deal though.
I am pretty sure you'll get support for the years it is supported and then some if you are lucky, the 2012 MM and MBP were still sold until October 2016, so they should get at least 1 major OS Upgrade, I think though that's where it ends.
I need a new Mac if that's the case.
Be careful though on which tools you use, there's chance of static electricity for instance when you use the wrong tools, for instance using a brush, they can accumulate static electricity, it could potentially damage the internals.
Yes, that's the typical guaranted support from date of purchase... add 1 years for the timeframe it is sold, so from official product launch approx 6 year to official end of support. If extended support is offered, that might add another up to 3 years for typical enterprise hardware (x86), but that's very limited support, especially not for new Windows versions. In that particulare case many servers don't officially support Server 2019.
Under the bottom line 8 years support from Apple is way above industry...
Everything past 2009 will run Catalina just fine. google "dosdude Catalina". It's really plain simple to install...
My late 2012 one still runs as good as on its first day. The moment it dies, I probably won’t even replace it. I am only really using my iPhone and sometimes the iPad after work.
That rings a bell, it’s probably since the native resolution was so dang high. It was very ambitious at the time! I dug a little deeper and the 750M did have 2GB of VRAM rather than 1GB, so actually you may be right that it helped with the high resolution, even though it wasn’t noticeably faster.
My wife’s 2012 Retina MacBook Pro 15” works great, she hasn’t updated to Catalina but she could. She’s a bit more conservative than I am, I’m always jumping right on updates. 😂 I bought it for her a couple years ago off craigslist on the cheap, since she was using a 2011 MacBook Pro without a Retina display, and that display looked so awful! Man, once you go Retina there’s no going back.
Mine is still going strong (running Mojave) with original battery (which I rarely charged overnight and ran in between ~85% and ~20% quite often).
USB-3 and Retina all in one box... not as bright as today's "overstimulating" screens (lol) but no bad at all.
USB-3 and Retina all in one box... not as bright as today's "overstimulating" screens (lol) but no bad at all.
So, does that mean I have to throw my mid2012 MBP non Retina to the bin just because it deemed obsolete by Apple? Not going to happen any time soon: not because I can't afford a new Apple's MBP (any one of those costs more than what I paid in 2013 for mine), but it has a boatload of useful apps and many of those wouldn't run on a newer machine, to say nothing of the fact they perform better and have the functions that the latest versions don't.
Oh, and did I mention I replaced the battery 2 months ago (and SSD and RAM 2 years ago)? The machine's going strong, it's my work-horse.
Oh, and did I mention I replaced the battery 2 months ago (and SSD and RAM 2 years ago)? The machine's going strong, it's my work-horse.
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Being able to charge via USB-C when docked at my desk and MagSafe when I’m out and about would be great.
I have the 2015 15" MBP Retina and in my opinion, of all the Macs I have ever owned, it is the best. The design just works, perfectly. For me at least. I LOVE it. I had the 2012 version which I replaced with one of the fancy new Touch Bar MBPs a few years ago. I disliked that machine so much that after a few weeks I sold it on Craigslist and purchased my current 2015 15" MBP Retina, which was still being sold by Apple at the time, even though it was a few years old.
I usually enjoy getting new laptops pretty often, but I personally cannot use the keyboards on the new line of Apple laptops - even the most recent releases. I have arthritis in some of my fingers, and it literally hurts me to type.
The point of this post is - my 2015 15" MBP Retina is slowing down a bit, but it still works pretty much fine for my needs. BUT, there is an ongoing issue with the USB ports which Apple has been unable to fix. They have attempted repair numerous times, and finally offered me a replacement with a brand new, current 16" MBP. And I don't know what to do! I have waited my entire life for this mythical event - for Apple to offer me a FREE new machine to replace my old machine! I have heard rumors of such things happening, but have never had it happen to me. I know I should take advantage of this offer, and I know that eventually, my current 2015 15" MBP Retina will stop working well enough for me to use and it will have to be replaced. But the thought of getting rid of it is really sad. And since I basically can't type on the new machines, I don't know what I will do.
I have to decide soon and am really in a pickle about the whole situation.
Just sharing because my real life friends are sick of hearing about my predicament and won't discuss it with me anymore.
I usually enjoy getting new laptops pretty often, but I personally cannot use the keyboards on the new line of Apple laptops - even the most recent releases. I have arthritis in some of my fingers, and it literally hurts me to type.
The point of this post is - my 2015 15" MBP Retina is slowing down a bit, but it still works pretty much fine for my needs. BUT, there is an ongoing issue with the USB ports which Apple has been unable to fix. They have attempted repair numerous times, and finally offered me a replacement with a brand new, current 16" MBP. And I don't know what to do! I have waited my entire life for this mythical event - for Apple to offer me a FREE new machine to replace my old machine! I have heard rumors of such things happening, but have never had it happen to me. I know I should take advantage of this offer, and I know that eventually, my current 2015 15" MBP Retina will stop working well enough for me to use and it will have to be replaced. But the thought of getting rid of it is really sad. And since I basically can't type on the new machines, I don't know what I will do.
I have to decide soon and am really in a pickle about the whole situation.
Just sharing because my real life friends are sick of hearing about my predicament and won't discuss it with me anymore.
I disagree.
When I met my current partner she had a 2011 MPB 13'. My 2012 MBPr felt light years ahead in screen resolution, thickness, speed and weight to screen size ratio. The screen resolution was a significant leap on its own.
When I bought the laptop many websites and applications didn't support high resolution displays in the way that they do today - including Windows.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. I am glad that the 16 inch almost had an identical keyboard on layout and feel. The touchbar, powerful speakers and fingers print reader are big bonuses that I didn't expect that I would appreciate.
Only in 2018 did I feel that Lenovo and Dell catchup with laptop of equivalent calibre.
The XPS 13 and 15 are now utterly incredible and even have touch screens - I had an XPS13 at work in 2018.
So Dell supports computers for up to five years, and that is an example you use to counter Apple's support for 8 years?
I highly doubt a 15 year old Acer laptop can run Windows 10, let alone run it adequately. 15 years ago it was still pretty common to see Pentium III processors in laptops.
I'm with you. This 15" retina has still been my main computer and going strong. Honestly thing it'd give me another two years if I just replaced the battery and got the internal dust/danger removed.
Normally a no brainer, right? But the 16" has been a dumpster fire for a lot of people + that 2015 is a perfect laptop, IMO (I have a 2015 at home and 2019 at work - would take the 2015 10/10 times). I think you gotta do the trade.