Tim cook and his friends ...ahem...phil...ahem eddie....are vintage as well. Discountinue those SVP members.
How much did it cost you? I'd better get my 2013 done.I wouldn't wait too long in all honesty.
I may be with you after three plus decades of Apple loyalty. Have been an Apple-nut that long with only a short interlude with Dell in the late 1990's. I may be going back to the dark side again, given prices and quality. Really sad to say that really... but haven't seen a MacBook Pro better than the one this article is about (and I own).It's the last mac I have bought and quite likely the last I will buy.
How is people being increasingly happy with their older hardware a bad thing? Maybe if you're an Apple shareholder, investor, or reseller who only cares about profits...The real problem is that a 2012 MBP is just as capable as a 2018 MBP. A 2006 MBP in 2012 probably was less desirable due to the dramatic increase in hardware speed to support the computing services of that day. The need for computing power for most has plateaued which is why a lot of people are more than happy with their 6yo machines. I fear this issue will only get worse in years to come.
Yes, I had to deal with these issues as well. But both times Apple replaced the display assembly for free and neither issue has come back.Lets not forget all the issues with the 2012 either. The diabolical image retention problems, the staingate.
MagSafe -- CHECK
Glowing Apple -- CHECK
SD Card slot -- CHECK
Optical Audio Out -- CHECK
Reliable Keyboard -- CHECK
No Emoji Bar -- CHECK
No soldered storage -- CHECK
Yes you are right, the previous benchmark screenshots I posted were single-core benchmarks. These are multi-core, 2012 outperforms 2017:
https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/277
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So I guess it is end of the line for the classic 2012 15” as well. Not that it was cheaper to repair before.. I still use one as my main money making machine. It’s unbelievable that a 6 years old hardware can handle high quality 4K video that recent windows laptops just can’t even bother. I just hope it doesn’t die before a new model comes out in 2018. After that I will use it as a server and use the extra cores in the network cluster for distributed video encoding.
Why do people do signature with their stuff anyway. It seems silly to me. Vanity at first I guessLooking at your signature, I personally feel you don't have enough Apple products....I suggest you buy something else!![]()
You say that as if the new models aren’t sellingit would appear that discontinuing support for their old products is the only way they know how to get people to purchase the new and "improved" ones.
unless the strategy backfires and consumers buy elsewhere...
The real problem is that a 2012 MBP is just as capable as a 2018 MBP. A 2006 MBP in 2012 probably was less desirable due to the dramatic increase in hardware speed to support the computing services of that day. The need for computing power for most has plateaued which is why a lot of people are more than happy with their 6yo machines. I fear this issue will only get worse in years to come.
Yes you are right, the previous benchmark screenshots I posted were single-core benchmarks. These are multi-core, 2012 outperforms 2017:
https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/277
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Did you ever take the rMBP to an ocean side with boulder formation that cascades into the blue foaming water on a crisp wind-drift day and over enhance the photos that you have just taken?I'm glad I got the battery replaced with it earlier this year. I was expecting the move. The 2012 rMBP is the best laptop I've ever owned
Sarcasm aside a Mac model is not made Obsolete (Vintage in two places in the world) until 5 years after Apple stops manufacturing it so technically as long as Apple makes computers the "entire range" will never be made vintage.At the current rate, how long before the entire range is 'vintage'?![]()
Hmmm, so the fact that every computer hardware manufacturer on the planet is using the same model for declaring hardware obsolete makes Apple the bag guys here? Doesn't matter what device you buy 5 years after the device is no longer manufactured it will be declared obsolete. Bonus with Apple is Macs often continue to receive security updates, etc., even if the hardware support is ended. I've worked with Servers that were sold "as new" essentially until the day before they were obsolete and that was a real surprise to discover support lasted only a couple weeks. Apple looks pretty good to me compared to that experience.it would appear that discontinuing support for their old products is the only way they know how to get people to purchase the new and "improved" ones.
unless the strategy backfires and consumers buy elsewhere...
The 2017 and 2016 MBPs are essentially identical. Perhaps you have your years wrong?I am on the 2016 model which bought it last year, with Apple Care. Had the MBP 2017 and it was utter crap, and got the older version instead.
MagSafe -- CHECK
Glowing Apple -- CHECK
SD Card slot -- CHECK
Optical Audio Out -- CHECK
Reliable Keyboard -- CHECK
No Emoji Bar -- CHECK
No soldered storage -- CHECK
The multi-core CPU performance of my Early 2011 17" MacBook Pro exceeds that of the current $1,200 MacBook. Yet Apple decided to stop supporting it in Mojave anyway.Another mind boggling example, a 2017 mac only slightly faster than a 2012 mac. Perhaps if Apple loves the environment so much they should extend hardware support considering these machines keep screaming performance-wise and are nowhere near end of life? Nevermind, forced obsolescence is more profitable.
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