JPack
macrumors G5
Modern ultrasonic in-display fingerprint scanners read through sweat and dirt. They even work underwater.
Keep in mind Touch ID is technology from 2012.
Apple's Greg Joswiak Says Touch ID Will 'Continue to Have a Role'
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Modern ultrasonic in-display fingerprint scanners read through sweat and dirt. They even work underwater.
Keep in mind Touch ID is technology from 2012.
Well the current Touch ID lacks that technology. And honestly I’d have to see it to believe it would work with sweaty or wet hands. Until then I am really looking forward to upgrading my 8 plus this year for the Face ID
NickName99
macrumors 6502a
Wow, I’m really surprised at all the negative comments about FaceID. Are these coming from actual iPhone X/XR/XS users? I doubt it.
I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone X last year, it would be absurd to go back. When I have to hold my finger up to a fingerprint reader on my iPad it cracks me up, it’s like having to stick a key in a car door to unlock it or something. On my iPhone X it just passively authenticates me when I’m using the phone, I don’t have to take any action.
Of course Apple isn’t going to completely eliminate Touch ID overnight, it will be around for a while. Maybe they could add it to iPhones to work with FaceID for increased security. It’s much easier to fool than FaceID, so it would be weird to weaken iPhone security by allowing users to use it instead of FaceID.
I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone X last year, it would be absurd to go back. When I have to hold my finger up to a fingerprint reader on my iPad it cracks me up, it’s like having to stick a key in a car door to unlock it or something. On my iPhone X it just passively authenticates me when I’m using the phone, I don’t have to take any action.
Of course Apple isn’t going to completely eliminate Touch ID overnight, it will be around for a while. Maybe they could add it to iPhones to work with FaceID for increased security. It’s much easier to fool than FaceID, so it would be weird to weaken iPhone security by allowing users to use it instead of FaceID.
MisterSavage
macrumors 603
This are my thoughts also. I still have my 9.7 Ipad Pro with Touch ID and every time I use the device it reminds me how much I appreciate Face ID now on my iPhone and Ipad.
It's almost like different people have different preferences and use cases and TouchID works better for some while FaceID works better for others. I would be very happy to see TouchID make a return and prefer it. My mom, FaceID works way better for her. A phone with both = win.
Yeah, but what’s the difference with Touch ID? If it doesn’t stay on your phone and some government and aliens are collecting your data then how Touch ID is ‘better for privacy, security and convenience’ but Face ID is ‘better for police state tracking’? Both can be used for good and bad.
3rdiguy
macrumors 65816
Maybe call it...Apple ID
Allyance
Contributor
Totally disagree, FaceID work great all the time (except when I have my helmet on!!). If you use ApplePay with the Apple card you will see why.
It’s the issue of some particular countries and its laws, not Face ID.
And if your fingers get wet or dirty or you use gloves due to cold weather then what? Resort to a alpha-numeric passcode every time?And if your voice becomes distorted due to a cold or changes due to other conditions, or the surrounding environment you're in, is to loud to recognize the users voice, then What? Resort to a alpha-numeric passcode every time?To many uncertain variables for ‘Voice ID’ to be successful.
Too many uncertain variables for ‘Touch ID’ to be successful.
FaustsHausUK
Contributor
I'm on an 8+ - TouchID rarely fails for me. FaceID on my iPad Pro seems extra fussy when I'm making Apple Pay transactions and needs to be at a very precise angle. It's also slow as hell most of the time. I'd welcome _both_ in the same device.
Kinda of a nonsensical response on your behalf, being Touch ID was [And Still is] successful. You can project all you want about something that’s never come to fruition with ‘Voice ID’ , Touch ID was the standard for years for biometric security. Touch ID hasn’t proven unreliable at all, is it perfect?. No, but neither is Face ID. Using any type of voice recognition, there’s far too many variables that would be affecting something of that nature versus something touch ID with a fingerprint. Not everybody lives in a cold climate for one, but _everybody_ has the opportunity where they can lose their voice and/or where the environment could be proven to be too loud with ambient noise from being in the car/in public to make it reliable, etc, where it’s to inconsistent. Your ‘Voice Idea’, is well, not relevant to Touch ID in the slightest. But I’ll let it slide.
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PickUrPoison
macrumors G3
Don’t be surprised. It’s not hard to find a couple dozen people complaining here in the forums about _anything_ Apple does.
They could knock the price of the XS down to $499 and guaranteed some in the Apple-hate crowd would still complain that it wasn’t $299 or 399
Disagree. Face ID doesn't live up to its name. It is a very limited in identifying your face. It fails when the angle isn't right. It fails if there is any obstruction in front of your face.
Well, uhh, you might want to try moving the ‘obstruction’ in order for the dot projector to accurately read the users face. That seems fairly rudimentary.
If someone is resting their face on their hand, can you still identify them?Well, uhh, you might want to try moving the ‘obstruction’ in order for the dot projector to accurately read the users face. That seems fairly rudimentary.
It should just work. If you are having to worry about dot projections, then it sounds an awful lot like "You're holding it wrong."
NickName99
macrumors 6502a
This is absolutely hilarious. Yes, FaceID must see your face to work. What’s the problem? You expect it to reliably distinguish you from other people even if you have a mask on?
timborama
macrumors 6502a
Totally agree. iPhone will continue to lose ground against other phones until they get Touch ID back. I won’t ever be buying into “the notch”.
LovingTeddy
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At least China doesn’t have this mess murder like United States does and you can actually walking on the street after midnight without worrying being robbed by someone is awesome. I take this than anything else. I actually feel safe when I was in China, last year. I don’t feel safe at all when I am walking at Downtown Toronto after midnight.
Not sure if you are serious but I agree that the notch is terrible compared to what is coming out now.
kazmac
macrumors G4
Weil said.
I also politely pushed back when the rep helping me tried to get me to trade in my 7+ for an X phone. I said "I am not interested in Face ID, learning new gestures, and paying more for a phone."
MacUser09425
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So, FaceID lovers: consider this use case. With the new phones and pass through charging AND the camera hump that will both have people placing their phone face down; you'll have to pick up the phone to unlock with your face. So much for 'faster, easier'. Now you're back to 'more secure' which those of us who still prefer TouchID - and major banks around the globe - were ok with.
PickUrPoison
macrumors G3
I wouldn’t read too much about the iPhone into what Joswiak said, he mentioned iPad twice and iPhone not at all:
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There is some hope for the new “SE” because FaceID is expensive, but nothing in this article changes that, that’s been true all along. I expect it to have the original TouchID since that would be the least expensive solution. I’m not sure about the whole under-screen rumor, but who knows.
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JosephAW
macrumors 604
I saw some post about iOS 13 removing 3D Touch. If they did that it would be like Apple telling iPhone SE users iOS 13 will disable the headphone jack and you must use a lightning headphones or telling all devices that have Touch ID that it will be disabled in iOS 13 and you have to use other means for authentication.