Ahahaha since 1997!? Wow, and I'm surprised I have yet to see it. Thanks for the laugh
I know.. I´ve been on the "internet" a looong time
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Apple's iCloud and iMessage Services Experiencing Significant Outage [Update: Resolved]
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I know.. I´ve been on the "internet" a looong time
This is the reason Apple suck at online services. You dont see these things happen as much with real clouds. Apple does not run a 'real cloud' as they only have one or two physical locations. They should have datacenters all over the globe, but they dont.
I know.. I´ve been on the "internet" a looong time
Seriously. I remember the days when email was a "new fad" and "Frontpage" and "Netscape" were cutting edge.
In a way, I miss those days, life seemed... simpler
They have successfully demonstrated that they are not a business class or mission critical service and cannot be relied upon.
Seriously. I remember the days when email was a "new fad" and "Frontpage" and "Netscape" were cutting edge.
In a way, I miss those days, life seemed... simpler
yeah good ol´Netscape
can not believe it´s 2012 sometimescan you believe I´ve been a member on Giganews since 1994... crazy
my oldest kid is 16 and she sometimes asks crazy stuff about things she remembered on internet as a child
My entire problem with iWhatever is the single point of failure problem. Apple can solve this VERY easily. Have three distinctly different addresses the services can access through in every app, so if one is down the other two are there for failover. They can further be hardened by having 10-20 subsidiary sites that attach to mirrors dynamically as needed to assure 100% uptime.
The very fact this CAN happen is very bad. The fact this HAS happened is very, very bad. The fact it has happened and persists for more than a few minutes is a corporate emergency since all the iDevices are increasingly dependent on Apple's aspect of the network to function.
I would hate to see the entire world learn a hard lesson and switch to Google, Samsung, Microsoft or Oracle as a matter of basic survival.
Rocketman
The very fact this CAN happen is very bad. The fact this HAS happened is very, very bad. The fact it has happened and persists for more than a few minutes is a corporate emergency since all the iDevices are increasingly dependent on Apple's aspect of the network to function.
I would hate to see the entire world learn a hard lesson and switch to Google, Samsung, Microsoft or Oracle as a matter of basic survival.
Rocketman
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One of the three reasons why I don't trust clouds.
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Real clouds? Like Amazon or like the dedicated business cloud solution I use for our web servers? Get real. Both of those go down. Oh, they have excuses but the reality is there is no 99% uptime never mind 99.99% like they claim.
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Real clouds? Like Amazon or like the dedicated business cloud solution I use for our web servers? Get real. Both of those go down. Oh, they have excuses but the reality is there is no 99% uptime never mind 99.99% like they claim.
Google and Microsoft both have had outages within the past year. So, unfortunately none of these services have been immune to outages.
You obviously haven't used Microsoft Online Services (previously BPOS and currently Office 365). This sort of outage has been common over the past couple years for what Microsoft sells as a business class/mission critical service. Businesses pay for this on a monthly per-seat basis. And Microsoft prefers to hide their online status:
Microsoft Online Services
Office 365 service health
As a long-time MobileMe sufferer, I was hoping the intermittent interruptions and slowness would go away with iCloud. The overall speed is noticeably improved. Today, I noticed the outage when Mail hung up at one point. I refreshed the browser to no avail. The login appeared at some point later. Maybe 10 minutes? Everything seemed normal after logging back in. I didn't know it was a global problem until checking Macrumors later. But then, MobileMe trained me to expect this.
I noticed a huge amount of SPAM coming through, three or four at a time. Oddly I also lost my university Exchange e-mail which I know has nothing to do with iCloud or Apple. So I had no e-mail after the SPAM attack.
Ohhh, well, I think I can just about survive without being able to view a posting to a forum
I'd hardly call typing on a forum (chat) as important data you should back up!
You really dont get it do you.
Apple Cloud (lets call it 'Cloud A') - One datacenter in the US.
Other (e.g Amazon) Cloud ('Cloud B') - 15+ Datacenters (note: as of 2010) located across the globe.
Here's the difference. A network issue or power issue that breaks the backup supply at 'Cloud A' takes out the entire network.
A network or power issue with 'Cloud B' takes out one of many datacenters, meaning everyone who would normally connect to the inaccessible datacenter, get offloaded to another datacenter. The theory here is that it significantly reduces the risk of an outage.
Obviously with ANY cloud from ANY provider there WILL always be outages, but as it stands, Apples cloud is not anywhere near being as reliable or stable as their rivals. While its certainly getting a hell of a lot better, outside the US transfer speeds can still be laggy and poor.
Heh. I sync my data myself. It takes me all of a couple minutes to do, and I don't have to depend on the network and somebody's cloud service, nor worry about my data being compromised.
Heh. This reminds me of 1978 when the cable went out for an hour after two weeks of service. My dad spent 3 hours setting up the rabbit ears antenna. The cable had come back up two hours earlier. I still remember him exclaiming "This is why we should have just stayed with network television!".
Cling to your static data. The rest of us who aren't afraid of change will still be here when you catch up.
Cling to your static data. The rest of us who aren't afraid of change will still be here when you catch up.
Huh?
"Amazon has explained why its cloud service failed on Thursday. Blame the power,"
"Amazon traces cloud outage to faulty breaker"
"Amazon Cloud Outage Caused by 'Cable Fault'"
I think you picked an awkward example.
Cling to your static data. The rest of us who aren't afraid of change will still be here when you catch up.
What static data? My data changes all the time, I just don't depend on a data center thousands of miles away for storage and access, because I carry it with me and keep it backed up myself in the unlikely case it is lost or stolen.
Some reasons cloud storage is a good idea:
- If your Mac/PC fails, you have instant backups in the cloud (for iOS devices)
- iCloud is free
- When you are away from your Mac/PC, you can restore important things from your iCloud account
Cloud computing IS the future. In fact, Nvidia is developing a cloud graphics card that can send graphics data to devices like tablets and computers. (Play Black Ops on an iPad?)
I hate to troll - but...
Wow. "I remember the rolling Siri blackouts of 2012. Thousands of whining self-absorbed 20-somethings roaming the streets unable to see whether it was going to rain or where their next sushi was going to come from. It was hell."