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Maybe this is the start of the purge that is needed?


No... Talented engineers/designers come and go in Silicon Valley. Could have gone to a startup or retired with a bunch of very valuable vested AAPL shares.

It’s the way it is in the area. Not a biggie.
 
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Yes, it would be awesome to lose one of the best designers in the world, the one responsible for all Apple products you use and presumably care about because you’re here. The one all other companies try to compete against :p

You mean he's the one responsible for everything being so slim it can't have a decent battery, can't have decent functionality, and has to be under-clocked to avoid overheating?

Apple industrial design has been total crap since Jobs died. The best designed Apple products ever made in terms of looks and function were in 2011 and 2012. It's all been downhill since then. The best thing Steve Jobs ever did was control and direct Ives.

Ive's the genius who keeps pulling out features to leave empty space behind? (the optical drive in the mac mini, the headphone jack in the iPhone). And maybe getting rid of the optical drive was the right choice, but to leave the device the same form factor with a huge empty cavity where the drive belongs is overachieving levels of idiocy.

All the next guy has to do is make every product 10% thicker and fill the volume with more battery and he'll be 10 times the designer Ive is.
 
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We would love to hire them. I doubt they would be interested unless they are bat **** crazy though. Crazy like me with not much concern about pay and enjoying the job/region anyway.

This really seems like a non-story. 3 employees? Seriously? At least get can put Apple on their resumes.
 
I agree. The media subscriptions thing is just sad. I mean, magazines? I sometimes glance at the Tech mags on the shelf at the supermarket and ALL of the content is outdated. Youtube is extremely competitive and anything new is there within 24 hours of announcement - for free.

Yeah the most interesting thing lately is reading predictable comments by people bemoaning the iPhone notch. Sad times indeed.
 
They should all be forced to live in Tiny Homes in Florida with no Aircon
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35 years veterans. That says it all. People need to retire or try their hand at something else after a while. I wish them luck!
 
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Please explain why you believe this. Why would they leave because of the Galaxy Fold?

The Galaxy Fold represents a new paradigm in pocket computer man-machine interface. This isn’t a home run. It’s a whole new sport. And only Samsung could have envisioned, designed, engineered, and ship such a product. Apple on the other hand are incapable of creating such a device. Samsung focuses on novelty. Apple focuses on pragmatic design. Frankly, no one cares for 99% of Apple’s first-party apps. The vast majority of people have crApple folders of all the useless Apple apps: Reminders, News, Podcasts, Books, Stocks, Health, Home, Wallet, Measure, TV, iMovie, GarageBand, Music Memos, Clips, Pages, Keynote, Numbers.

Apple needs to focus on important design aspects: Kill the TrueDepth housing. Kill it. No one cares about FaceID. Kill the camera bump. It is superfluous. You might ask what natural law exists that says “smartphones” need to have a flat back. Well. There is none. But it’s ugly. For example. Look at the safety mechanism on the trigger on a Glock. It’s hideous. Yeah, okay, they claim it’s additional safety. Who cares? It is ugly. A trigger on a gun should be one smooth piece. That is good design. Trust me, I’ve designed a great layout for my Twitch page so you can say that I have an “eye for design."
 
Its Ive that needs to go. I am sure his Steve Jobs mentality of needing to be the center of attention leaves others there feeling pointless.
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35 years veterans. That says it all. People need to retire or try their hand at something else after a while. I wish them luck!

You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Yes, it would be awesome to lose one of the best designers in the world, the one responsible for all Apple products you use and presumably care about because you’re here. The one all other companies try to compete against :p

Well said. I’m starting to believe that MacRumors forums is where internet trolls go to exercise their cynicism and negativity in-between political campaigns. Sheesh.
 
Please explain why you believe this. Why would they leave because of the Galaxy Fold?
They may want to put their talents to the test designing things other than iPhones and left for a company that's going to push new products/form factors which is part of the reason most tech workers in established roles leave for startups but I'm sure he was being sarcastic
 
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wouldnt really say have been designing much lately. more like slight modifications.

For every product that is released, there's probably 50 designs that are rejected. I bet they are very busy trying out different ideas, but at the end of the day, incremental changes can be better for customers, rather than change for change's sake.

I wonder if one reason they are leaving is this very reason... their creativity isn't being exploited by Apple in released products, so they are disgruntled and bored.
 
The keyboards are bad because they were engineered poorly, not because Apple values "form over function." It's possible to have both form and function as is evident in most of Apple's other products.

Or more likely it is a case of the all powerful design team dictating unworkable requirements of the engineering team.
 
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Leaving Apple for greener pastures? No, getting the heck out of the Ive's reality distortion field. Anything is better than having his stain on your resume.
 
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Must've been an awesome time for them at Apple. Riding the iPhone 6 design for 4 years, good job!

If we're being realistic, the same design has been used in 12 different iPhone models now (6/6 Plus, 6S/6S Plus, 7/7 Plus, 8/8 Plus, X, XR, XS/XS Max). The X series is the same exact design, except for the vertical camera and the notch. I don't get why everyone treats it as if it's different.
 
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I think this is positive. Apple obviously has some talented designers, but people move on and it’s time to bring in some new blood. Shake things up and see where it takes them.
Exactly. It was inevitable. Ive, Cook, Schiller and some of the rest will ride this thing into the sunset but most others aren't lifers in the same way.
 
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The Galaxy Fold represents a new paradigm in pocket computer man-machine interface. This isn’t a home run. It’s a whole new sport. And only Samsung could have envisioned, designed, engineered, and ship such a product. Apple on the other hand are incapable of creating such a device. Samsung focuses on novelty. Apple focuses on pragmatic design.

Hardly. Apples original European patent for folding displays was granted in 2014, two years earlier than Samsung’s. Samsung just wanted to beat Apple to the punch with a failing, hideous, and bulky land filler. This product is just experimental eye candy for fools to gawk over... Something that is shiny and new, and guarantees Apple, like usual, will take their time to perfect their work and release it when appropriate. This is no new sport. Apple has always played the long game, and always wins (And I don’t want to hear about keyboards- In my experience it’s only slobs that have issues. Wash your hands and eat over a plate, for Christ’s sake.)


Frankly, no one cares for 99% of Apple’s first-party apps. The vast majority of people have crApple folders of all the useless Apple apps: Reminders, News, Podcasts, Books, Stocks, Health, Home, Wallet, Measure, TV, iMovie, GarageBand, Music Memos, Clips, Pages, Keynote, Numbers.

Lies. You may not, but most do.


Some niche apps, like GarageBand, surely has a smaller audience, but they’re definitely not absent. I know many musicians who use it. A lot.


Apple’s office applications may not be the industry standard, but they’re better than most, and I’ve used iWork since launch. They’re hardly useless. And they’re free.


Apple needs to focus on important design aspects: Kill the TrueDepth housing. Kill it. No one cares about FaceID.

This is an ignorant statement, and something to whine about for no constructive reason. When originally released, the technology behind it was estimated to be two years ahead of its time, and in real life it was about a year and a half before a truly comparable system came to market. Cool.


Focusing on important design aspects was exactly what they did. It isn’t noticeable during normal usage, doesn’t sacrifice water resistance (and in fact improves it), and doesn’t add any moving parts.


Kill the camera bump. It is superfluous. You might ask what natural law exists that says “smartphones” need to have a flat back. Well. There is none. But it’s ugly. For example. Look at the safety mechanism on the trigger on a Glock. It’s hideous. Yeah, okay, they claim it’s additional safety. Who cares? It is ugly. A trigger on a gun should be one smooth piece. That is good design.

No it’s not. The camera lenses purpose, like any camera lense, is to maximise the camera’s view and to minimise disruption from outside influences, and being mobile devices, the cases that we put on our devices to protect them. Having a camera bump is thoughtful and useful in this regard. If you’re too ignorant to not see that connection when you look at an iPhone with a case on it, then good grief. They’re flush with cases.


I own Glocks. A lot of them. They’re close to perfect, and a safety in the trigger is an amazing feature that allows for quick draw and discharge, without missing a beat. That is why they’re popular with law enforcement. This is a ridiculous comparison, especially when both have major usage features for what they’ll be used for in the real world, not a fantasy ideal.


Trust me, I’ve designed a great layout for my Twitch page so you can say that I have an “eye for design."

Lol. Egos are funny. I don’t think I can take anybody seriously that compares a camera bump to a weapon’s safety switch.
 
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