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I doubt the battery would loose charge that quickly, if Apple is taking the same care with the iPad as they do with their notebooks. My MBP is over a year old now and still holds a "100%" charge, although the battery indicator programs are not very accurate.

I just have to laugh at people joking about paying $99, and sending in their iPad expecting a new one. You know they really mean what they say in the back of their minds, why else take the time to post?



I'll enjoy sitting back and waiting for the second revision, hopefully it will garner some more features that differentiate it from an iPod touch XL ;)
 
There haven't been problems with iPod Touches or iPhones for years now, or with any other non-user-replaceable battery in their notebook lineup, but now, THIS, the iPad will be the one.

This replacement policy that has already been in place for the iPhone and iPod Touch has been an integral part of the incredibly highly rated customer service. People that have been actually effected have been happy with how it worked out. I fully expect that to continue.
 
Sorry, did not mean to offend - I might have incorrectly interpreted portions of your previous posts. I do agree with your current points but I guess that I am focusing on what the iPad CAN do (even in its infancy as a first gen) and less on what it CAN'T do and that is why I am excited. But, as you mentioned, many professionals in different fields will not see the iPad as a productive product.

No it's ok and I definitely wasn't barking at you. That was a just a dispute that someone started with me for no apparent reason, I brushed it off. The fact is that I agree with you, as well as many other posters here. I think the ipad is great, but I also don't think it's for me and many others, BUT for the reasons I stated. It's just that at this time I really want something more powerful but just as compact, lightweight and cool looking. I guess Apple has to also look at the business side of things from time to time and some of us forget that lol. Revenue is important as well. So for those that want this, I understand. :D
 
The idea of using the iPad in your practice is REALLY freakin cool. I just felt like saying that. Before going into the arts, I wanted to be a physician, and I still have a massive amount of respect and admiration for doctors. Seeing one that's using technology to society's benefit in such a unique way is really inspiring :D

Thanks. I get many positive comments from patients regarding my desire for patient education. I see the practice of medicine less from a paternalistic view (which is the historical norm) and more of empowering the patient with the knowledge behind my recommendations - thus creating a treatment plan that the patient both understands and desires. I use google daily in the exam room to find over the counter product info, images to explain anatomical concepts, applications for patient assistance on medications that are expensive (if there is not a $4 med list alternative), etc.

There were several rumor articles months back about "Apple's new tablet" being in talks with different medical institutions. After testing a few traditional Windows tablets over the past few years, the big hangup is data entry for anything more than touch commands and so I am not sure how well the iPad (in its current state of hardware and software) would be able to be used in that type of medical professional environment. Besides, there also are specific regulations behind patient data privacy (HIPPA). I guess time will tell...
 
Thanks. I get many positive comments from patients regarding my desire for patient education. I see the practice of medicine less from a paternalistic view (which is the historical norm) and more of empowering the patient with the knowledge behind my recommendations - thus creating a treatment plan that the patient both understands and desires. I use google daily in the exam room to find over the counter product info, images to explain anatomical concepts, applications for patient assistance on medications that are expensive (if there is not a $4 med list alternative), etc.

There were several rumor articles months back about "Apple's new tablet" being in talks with different medical institutions. After testing a few traditional Windows tablets over the past few years, the big hangup is data entry for anything more than touch commands and so I am not sure how well the iPad (in its current state of hardware and software) would be able to be used in that type of medical professional environment. Besides, there also are specific regulations behind patient data privacy (HIPPA). I guess time will tell...

Well, the keyboard dock already exists (or will when the iPad goes on sale). I'm sure one could be adapted for a medical professional's needs. As for the patient data privacy, who knows.
 
The list

This is one more item to add to the reasons not to buy an ipad:
1. can't expand memory
2. can't replace battery
3. No flash support (now we know why! so they don't have to replace
your ipad as frequently).
4. No multitasking
5.no random access to apps
6. very tedious to rearrange app icons
7. No file system
8. No scripting or macros
9. Virtually no options for customizing the iphone OS
10.Not practical to have more than about 150 apps
11. Does not run snow leopard.
12. Cannot tether to an iphone, or tether it to a macbook, for instance
13. Still ramming AT&T down our throats
 
They have a battery replacement program for several of their products and have for sometime.

+1

In fact I think they are making this announcement now in order to preempt all of the questions people may have about the "permanent" battery. Whenever a new iDevice comes out there are people who complain that the battery won't come off easily. Apple doesn't want people to think that the iPad will be useless when the battery wears out.

Personally I have had several iPods and iPhones over the years, and I have never replaced the battery in one. One died, but I was happy to buy a new (higher capacity model) rather than replacing the battery. I understand that sometimes a battery replacement makes sense, and I see that Apple is offering this service for those occasions.
 
This is one more item to add to the reasons not to buy an ipad:
1. can't expand memory
2. can't replace battery
3. No flash support (now we know why! so they don't have to replace
your ipad as frequently).
4. No multitasking
5.no random access to apps
6. very tedious to rearrange app icons
7. No file system
8. No scripting or macros
9. Virtually no options for customizing the iphone OS
10.Not practical to have more than about 150 apps
11. Does not run snow leopard.
12. Cannot tether to an iphone, or tether it to a macbook, for instance
13. Still ramming AT&T down our throats

If having a list makes you feel better for not owning an iPad, then that's great but I honestly am not negatively affected by any of your points that you mentioned except maybe flash (although i don't miss flash at all on my iphone). Are you serious about all of those because some seem like a joke - for instance, does anyone actually have more than 150 apps or software packages on any computer they own?
 
If having a list makes you feel better for not owning an iPad, then that's great but I honestly am not negatively affected by any of your points that you mentioned except maybe flash (although i don't miss flash at all on my iphone). Are you serious about all of those because some seem like a joke - for instance, does anyone actually have more than 150 apps or software packages on any computer they own?

There is a file system.
 
This is one more item to add to the reasons not to buy an ipad:

12. Cannot tether to an iphone, or tether it to a macbook, for instance
13. Still ramming AT&T down our throats

12. You could tether it to a macbook if you mean have the iPad share the Macbook's internet connection provided the MacBook has a free WIFI interface (meaning one that's not being used to connect the MacBook to the internet). Couldn't do the other way around though if thats what you meant.

13. Sure, having a wifi only model (and not even requiring a contract if you get the 3G) is "ramming AT&T down your throat" :rolleyes:
 
We both use English, you just butcher it on occasion. :D Oh, I suppose I have spelt humour wrong as well? Doh! ;)

The English generally have about ten different pronunciations for any word, depending on region. And pretty much anywhere in England, there is at least one place name pronounced nothing like the way it is spelled.
 
Oh man . . why do you people keep talking this angry stuff? Who on earth said I was angry about it. I made a comment, that's it . . MOST professionals are not going to be able to use the ipad as a main device for what they do in their careers.

Most landscapers can't use a bicycle to tow their lawnmowers and tools. Does that mean bicycles are useless?

Pay attention: the iPad is not designed as a professional's main computing device. All your arguments along that line are irrelevant. No one has suggested it except you - as a strawman argument.

Right. Because Apple designs its products to fail prematurely requiring a replacement for an outrageous fee, and Apple expects everyone will be fine with that. So Apple's getting ready to make a ton of money off replacement iPads.

There haven't been problems with iPod Touches or iPhones for years now, or with any other non-user-replaceable battery in their notebook lineup, but now, THIS, the iPad will be the one.

:rolleyes:

iPad batteries are rated for 1,000 recharge cycles, and after that they still hold 80% charge. That's around 5 years. And you can plug it in whenever you like. Same as battery recharge cycle in current Macbook Pros.

Glad someone understands. The entire point is that in an ideal world, the batteries would last the life of the device. Apple appears to be closer to that than anyone else and that's why they can get away with non-user-replaceable batteries. As it is, I haven't had a battery failure in any of the 6 or 8 Apple mobile devices I've owned in the past decade-even with some of them well past 5 years of heavy use.

Quite a few retail products are sporting some rather lengthy warranty terms. I've noticed that European nations tend to legislate toward longer product warranties. It's something I do look for when buying a product and more so for a premium one.

That's nice. How many of them cover batteries?

This has got to be one for the record books. The negativity is Outstanding !

What is going on with this site that everybody is so up in arms about something so silly?

You must be new here. There's an army of people who spend their whole lives trolling Mac forums to simply spew their hatred and venom about anything with an Apple logo on it. I haven't decided if they're jealous, bitter about having to use inferior products, or simply being paid by Apple's competitors. Regardless, it doesn't take long reading these forums to see the endless streams of anti-Apple FUD.

The fact is that Apple is marketing this as an alternative to a laptop rather than what it truly is, a giant iPhone minus the ability to make calls plus a few cool features.

When did Apple do that? Steve Jobs was very clear that this neither a laptop nor a netbook. The argument that it's marketed as a laptop is pure fabrication.
 
The iPad is too small to include a battery door (don't argue) so that's why they are charging the 1/6 the price of the device to replace a $10 rechargeable battery! It makes perfect sense. Design the device to screw the customer. Design the device to screw the software developers. Screw everyone. Send all $$$ to Steve Jobs for his next body replacement part. Everyone is happy.
 
You know guys, a little off topic here, but I literally just realized how the iPad could basically revolutionize the way I use computers. Even for how limited it is, it still does about 95% of what I do on my MBP. I could bring it to school, use it when commuting... hell, use it anywhere. It could honestly take the place of my laptop in my backpack almost all the time. I think Apple really is going to have a major hit on their hands here.

When they say this is their vision of the future, I think they really mean it.
 
You know guys, a little off topic here, but I literally just realized how the iPad could basically revolutionize the way I use computers. Even for how limited it is, it still does about 95% of what I do on my MBP. I could bring it to school, use it when commuting... hell, use it anywhere. It could honestly take the place of my laptop in my backpack almost all the time. I think Apple really is going to have a major hit on their hands here.

When they say this is their vision of the future, I think they really mean it.

Good Observation. Wait till the iSlate hits in 2011 !
 
Yea, but what about all the stickers I was planning to put on my iPad! ;)
 
Pretty cool, assuming there is no catch (which I doubt because Apple customer support has helped me out greatly in the past without a catch).

The fact that I saw a ton of negative votes about this is pretty sad. I mean what the hell guys? Are you stupid or just an extreme fanboy to the point where you'll flame Apple for being taken care of? It's like being a genius to the point where you're on the brink of insanity. The fanboyism that is (sometimes) displayed on this forum makes me sick, which is probably why I've been a member so long and still have yet to been privileged an icon (or avatar for you nitpicky ones). :p

Come on, $99 for a new (or like new for the nitpicky ones [again...]) iPad with a BRAND NEW battery? That deserves a positive vote (or maybe I'm just insane).
 
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