Apple's iPad Battery Replacement Program Forgoes New Battery, Replaces iPad

Listen, be my guest and get the ipad. I have no problems with people who want it. I merely stated facts that contribute to why professionals are not going to want it. Don't be upset after you get your shiny glossy new toy for $500 and up and then realize after a couple of days that you can't really do anything with it and want to return it.

Why all the anger about the iPad?

The iPad may not be for some professionals, but you surely cannot claim that all professionals are going to want to return their device? Personally, I ordered two iPads - the wifi model for work as I have tons of web and photo content that I plan to use for patient education as I am a physician and the second 3G model for personal use around the home and for travel.

Expect huge developments in the software that will drive the iPad into places that we cannot even imagine at this time - just as the iPhone has evolved since 2007.
 
What if there is no incentive for that user to buy a newer model?

Then that user will simply accept Apple's iPad Battery Replacement Program as mentioned in the original post. This is no different than someone who owns an original iPhone today and still has chosen not to upgrade.
 
What country ? Depending on that important detail, it would not be news for 65-70% of the world. Freedom is not Free

sadly, unfortunately i missed the country, was doing stuff with the radio in the background.
i am aware that mail traffic is monitored in most countries around the world, i was not aware that the technology exists to get police into a café minutes after the mail is sent.

sorry for going off topic

back to batteries and ipads :)
 
rstansby said:
It would be nice if Apple offered an option to send you the replacement before you send in the iPad with a weak battery. That way you wouldn't be without your iPad for a week.

You can do this for a small extra charge. It's called the Advance Replacement option and it is free if you have AppleCare.
 
A properly maintained iPad battery is designed to retain 80 percent or more of its original capacity during a lifespan of up to 1,000 recharge cycles.

This is a non-issue.
 
Why all the anger about the iPad?

The iPad may not be for some professionals, but you surely cannot claim that all professionals are going to want to return their device? Personally, I ordered two iPads - the wifi model for work as I have tons of web and photo content that I plan to use for patient education as I am a physician and the second 3G model for personal use around the home and for travel.

Expect huge developments in the software that will drive the iPad into places that we cannot even imagine at this time - just as the iPhone has evolved since 2007.

Oh man . . why do you people keep talking this angry stuff? Who on earth said I was angry about it. I made a comment, that's it . . MOST professionals are not going to be able to use the ipad as a main device for what they do in their careers. CAN you use it and be happy? Yes, I never said you couldn't. You say to expect huge developments in the software that will take the ipad places we can't imagine right? EXACTLY. I know this and said it about 5 times. However it is not at that place yet and that is all I am trying to say.
 
Why all the anger about the iPad?

The iPad may not be for some professionals, but you surely cannot claim that all professionals are going to want to return their device? Personally, I ordered two iPads - the wifi model for work as I have tons of web and photo content that I plan to use for patient education as I am a physician and the second 3G model for personal use around the home and for travel.

Expect huge developments in the software that will drive the iPad into places that we cannot even imagine at this time - just as the iPhone has evolved since 2007.

The idea of using the iPad in your practice is REALLY freakin cool. I just felt like saying that. Before going into the arts, I wanted to be a physician, and I still have a massive amount of respect and admiration for doctors. Seeing one that's using technology to society's benefit in such a unique way is really inspiring :D
 
The fact is that Apple is marketing this as an alternative to a laptop rather than what it truly is, a giant iPhone minus the ability to make calls plus a few cool features.

I have nothing against the iPad itself, but I do think it's wrong of Apple to promise a tablet computer and then give us this.

i see, maybe that is where many misunderstandings stem from:
1 - the definition of a computer?
2 - what is apple promising?

my iphone is a computer - i do most of my daily office communication from the phone while traveling, mails, calendars, booking flights etc.
my macpro is also a computer - used for rendering complex afterFX sequences.
not comparable, but both are 'computers'.

i don't think apple has actually marketed this as a replacement for a laptop, have they? i think the hype and expectation before the announcement spiraled out of control, and so many hopes were not fulfilled.

and though i have no intention of buying this 1st gen device, i am convinced that this is the way forward in terms of 'computers'.
let's see what the next 5-10 years bring us.
 
The idea of using the iPad in your practice is REALLY freakin cool. I just felt like saying that. Before going into the arts, I wanted to be a physician, and I still have a massive amount of respect and admiration for doctors. Seeing one that's using technology to society's benefit in such a unique way is really inspiring :D

I'm very curious to see how Epocrates will be implemented on the iPad. That would be a PERFECT device for the medical profession, although I'm not certain as to the stance with regards to wireless technology in hospitals.
 
i see, maybe that is where many misunderstandings stem from:
1 - the definition of a computer?
2 - what is apple promising?

my iphone is a computer - i do most of my daily office communication from the phone while traveling, mails, calendars, booking flights etc.
my macpro is also a computer - used for rendering complex afterFX sequences.
not comparable, but both are 'computers'.

i don't think apple has actually marketed this as a replacement for a laptop, have they? i think the hype and expectation before the announcement spiraled out of control, and so many hopes were not fulfilled.

and though i have no intention of buying this 1st gen device, i am convinced that this is the way forward in terms of 'computers'.
let's see what the next 5-10 years bring us.

1- Well, if you want to get that technical, sure, you win, champ. A Nintendo DS is also a computer.

I don't mean a computer in terms of hadware, I mean a computer in terms of productivity. True computers (as in desktops or laptops) are tools, not just toys.

2- Perhaps they've backed off of it now, but the keynote speech was strongly implying that this would function similarly to a tablet PC (which, might not be as fun, but are certainly a fully-functional computer (defined as a tool for productivity)).

I'm not particularly disappointed by the iPad. It serves the purpose it's designed for, but not the purpose it's been marketed for.
 
i don't think apple has actually marketed this as a replacement for a laptop, have they? i think the hype and expectation before the announcement spiraled out of control, and so many hopes were not fulfilled.

I do not believe Apple advertised the iPad as a replacement for any computer as it still requires another computer to utilize 100% of the iPad's features (syncing through iTunes, etc.). Although that doesn't mean other future revisions may not evolve into more powerful tablet-esque device.
 
The battery should last for at least 3 years, and people should not have to pay an additional fee to get it replaced. That's what quality companies do.

Here's something to think about: The Intel CPU, memory and hard drive in your Mac products are all backed by, at least, three years of warranty (for consumers) and yet when they enter your Mac product, it is immediately reduced to one year.

I call that a rip-off.

p.s. The Corsair HX 850W PSU in my PC comes with a warranty period of seven years.

You know, in my country (Norway) there has actually been a huge debate over this, as Norwegian consumer laws (very strict, for companies that is) refuses anybody to give less than 3 years warranty on electronics (for hardware defects it goes to 5 years). This, in theory anyway, makes Apples practice illegal here. Just saying, and I agree with you.

Apple products usually last pretty good, and I never understood why they arent more confident in their own products.

If Apple arent confident it will last more than one year, I shouldnt be either. I still buy it though, and hope for the best. My iPhone has been pretty good to me.
 
Apps will determine that. So far it looks very promising. iWork for it right out of the gate.

For myself, I don't want to have to rely on non-native apps. This is one of the points I made earlier. When it comes to the apps geared toward the medical field, I have seen apps that are of professional quality, meaning can perform accurately and give accurate documented info etc.. But when it comes to other professions, I have yet to see any that really kick the door down. That's why I mentioned Brushes and compared it to Corel. I'm sure it's great and can definitely get the job done. But at this point in time I want Corel because it's industry standard and therefore accepted with no hassle and offers much more. With a lot of non- nativeapps, you are stuck waiting for updates, they are buggy etc.. I personally prefer native apps. But for that we must wait I guess?
 
fail. this shows they are expecting problems. not to mention if the battery is dead how the hell am i going to sync it?

Right. Because Apple designs its products to fail prematurely requiring a replacement for an outrageous fee, and Apple expects everyone will be fine with that. So Apple's getting ready to make a ton of money off replacement iPads.

There haven't been problems with iPod Touches or iPhones for years now, or with any other non-user-replaceable battery in their notebook lineup, but now, THIS, the iPad will be the one.

:rolleyes:

iPad batteries are rated for 1,000 recharge cycles, and after that they still hold 80% charge. That's around 5 years. And you can plug it in whenever you like. Same as battery recharge cycle in current Macbook Pros.
 
1- Well, if you want to get that technical, sure, you win, champ. A Nintendo DS is also a computer.

I don't mean a computer in terms of hadware, I mean a computer in terms of productivity. True computers (as in desktops or laptops) are tools, not just toys.

yes, i know, i was not arguing or disagreeing with you, just raising the point that these definitions are a little fluid, what my mother calls a computer is of little use to me, and my macpro would be too big for her. then again somebody can be very productive on a device that i would until now have called a 'toy'.
i presume one could run a successful ebay business from an ipad, right? or the example a few posts up from
the physician, that's implementing the ipad as a tool too, not just as a toy.

2- Perhaps they've backed off of it now, but the keynote speech was strongly implying that this would function similarly to a tablet PC (which, might not be as fun, but are certainly a fully-functional computer (defined as a tool for productivity)). I'm not particularly disappointed by the iPad. It serves the purpose it's designed for, but not the purpose it's been marketed for.


i see, thanks for clarifying, i checked the specs and some journalists reports, but have not watched the keynote or seen any marketing. (i tend to ignore how devices are marketed, it doesn't help me making a decision to buy or not to buy). thanks again.
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The battery should last for at least 3 years, and people should not have to pay an additional fee to get it replaced. That's what quality companies do.

Here's something to think about: The Intel CPU, memory and hard drive in your Mac products are all backed by, at least, three years of warranty (for consumers) and yet when they enter your Mac product, it is immediately reduced to one year.

I call that a rip-off.

p.s. The Corsair HX 850W PSU in my PC comes with a warranty period of seven years.

You know, in my country (Norway) there has actually been a huge debate over this, as Norwegian consumer laws (very strict, for companies that is) refuses anybody to give less than 3 years warranty on electronics (for hardware defects it goes to 5 years). This, in theory anyway, makes Apples practice illegal here. Just saying, and I agree with you.

Apple products usually last pretty good, and I never understood why they arent more confident in their own products.

If Apple arent confident it will last more than one year, I shouldnt be either. I still buy it though, and hope for the best. My iPhone has been pretty good to me.
Quite a few retail products are sporting some rather lengthy warranty terms. I've noticed that European nations tend to legislate toward longer product warranties. It's something I do look for when buying a product and more so for a premium one.
 
Quite a few retail products are sporting some rather lengthy warranty terms. I've noticed that European nations tend to legislate toward longer product warranties. It's something I do look for when buying a product and more so for a premium one.

And yet Europeans complain when they have to pay more for these products.
 
Oh man . . why do you people keep talking this angry stuff? Who on earth said I was angry about it. I made a comment, that's it . . MOST professionals are not going to be able to use the ipad as a main device for what they do in their careers. CAN you use it and be happy? Yes, I never said you couldn't. You say to expect huge developments in the software that will take the ipad places we can't imagine right? EXACTLY. I know this and said it about 5 times. However it is not at that place yet and that is all I am trying to say.

Sorry, did not mean to offend - I might have incorrectly interpreted portions of your previous posts. I do agree with your current points but I guess that I am focusing on what the iPad CAN do (even in its infancy as a first gen) and less on what it CAN'T do and that is why I am excited. But, as you mentioned, many professionals in different fields will not see the iPad as a productive product.
 
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