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Apple should enable unlocking iPhone with Apple Watch, as they already allow for Mac. It’s unlocked, on your wrist, and hasn’t been removed. It’s secure.
Since I don't have experience with a Mac new enough to employ this feature, how far away can you be from the mac and still unlock it? My immediate concern would be that someone could simply be near me (while I am wearing my watch) and thusly unlocked the phone because my watch thinks that I am the one using it.
 
Looking forward to this feature...hope screen protectors won't interfere with its reliability/functionality.
Imo this is why I prefer capacitive TouchID. Just put it on the power button.
Optical ones require light and precise positioning, and ultrasonic ones can get interference from screen protectors. Too many gotchas for consumers.
 
Why do we desperately need the feature? If one can't use Face ID, one can still enter the passcode manually which everyone was doing before Face ID and Touch ID. I think a lot of people have gotten lazy and just can't be bothered to enter the passcode they chose for their phone. If we were assigned a long passcode with our phone, I could understand the numerous posts saying we desperately need .....
I put in a relatively long code for security purposes.

I suppose you can call it lazy, but the entire device exists for our convenience. Making something more convenient just seems like the sort of progression most products in this type of category takes. We could argue we need no biometric security and can forever just rely on a passcode. The existance of both touch id and face id were meant as a quality of life improvement for the user.

My experience has been that the accuracy of face id has been far below the accuracy of touch ID, the trade off of course being removing the chin of the device. I assume we will no longer have that tradeoff if the rumors of this feature addition remain true. I don't think I would use face ID going forward in most cases, especially if my phone is already unlocked by the time it is pulled from my pocket and in front of my face as was most often the case with touch id.
 
It reflects how good Apple did in making the unlocking process seamless on iPhones, that people are complaining about it when there are changes. :D

I myself prefer the Android pattern code than a PIN code, but apparently it's not as secure as recent Android will require PIN code for biometric fallback.
Before fingerprint readers I was actually using no lock on my phones at all, too much of a hassle. I wonder how widespread this was. Apple spearheading easy to use biometrics probably did a lot for the overall acceptance of smartphone security.

Regarding Android, I have a Galaxy phone from last year, and it does allow a pattern code as a fallback. Still, it is no doubt less secure than a PIN or good password.
 
they can leave a hole? Just like iPad cases. Some iPhone cases already leave holes for the volume button and mute switch. That would be a non-issue
To be honest, they don't even need to leave a hole. My youngest son was given a hand me down iphone 8 as just a video viewing device. We put it in an otterbox to make it drop proof and (mostly) spill proof. There is a membrane over the touchid (and screen) that keeps liquids out but doesn't interfere with the sensor in any tangible way.
 
I think the problem is Apple basically designed iPhones to be put in a case, they expect everything except for the screen and cameras to be completely covered. A fingerprint sensor on the side button would be a major inconvenience to making cases.
Apple is moving toward a device with no physical buttons or ports. Adding a sensor to an existing button doesn’t further this design goal.
 
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please keep Face ID.
i find it is faster than using the fingerprint and it has other advantages too. (Hütten messages on the Home Screen, or example. )
 
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Believe me or not, but this is the number 1 feature I keep waiting to get back to an iPhone. Nothing will excite me more
 
What do you mean "people cannot use ApplePay for purchases if wearing masks?" Of course you can. You just need to enter your phone passcode.
Sure you can, how about entering a password similar to mine...c%51#38!22(27F
I had this happen to me several times, typing in such a long password is not that easy if others are waiting in line, I then just get my NFC card out to pay.


I said this before last year, I hope they will bring TouchID back, especially now when wearing masks inside shops is mandatory.
 
Apple should enable unlocking iPhone with Apple Watch, as they already allow for Mac. It’s unlocked, on your wrist, and hasn’t been removed. It’s secure.
Nononono, that's a no go.
That would be very insecure, I bet that most people use their AW to unlock their home based Macs only, not on the mobile ones.
 
As long as folks are wearing masks in stores and Apple's using FaceID only, people can't use ApplePay for purchases. I bet they're wishing they'd put fingerprint in earlier.
errmm... you can just enter your 6-digit pin. Or - if you wear one - double tap the button on your Apple watch.

Having touch-ID on the button works for an iPad because people don't use cases that much and if they do, the there's usually cut-out to access the buttons. On a phone, most people use a case because those devices live in your pocket and there's just way more opportunities for you to drop it since it's always with you. Cases would have to be super thin to allow a fingerprint sensor on the power button to work well with a large cut-out on the case.

An under-the-screen sensor would be best in terms of user experience. It doesn't have to be as accurate as regular touch-ID because you could supplement it with face-ID. Let's say you're wearing a mask in a grocery store. Even when wearing glasses, the op of your cheekbones and your forehead are still peeking through. So the fingerprint sensor gets an 80% confident reading and face-ID adds another 20%.

Personally I'd love the ability to unlock using the Apple watch if I'm holding the phone in the same hand as I'm wearing the watch. Wouldn't mind having to enter a long Pin and turning the auto-unlock-from-the-phone feature off for that. If the phone sees parts of my face and is super close to my unlocked apple watch and I have a heartbeat, go ahead an unlock it.
 
I’d love to have both FaceID and TouchID, my fingers get sweaty so don’t read properly sometimes but equally at the moment face coverings are a problem.
 
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isn’t the purpose people are wearing masks and this gives people an unlock method whilst out and about?

Let’s face it this is coming not just due to the pandemic. This has been in development for years. I also don’t get the whole mask thing I mean where are people going where they need to use their phone when they have their mask on? Shops? Walking in the street?
 
Get a new girlfriend? 🤷‍♂️
Least of which where moister on the fingers


Unless it prevents a nosy GF who's sleeping over take your finger and TouchID into your phone and private life (passwords, bank accounts, notes etc) then it's NOT better. Don't care how many DPI's are there. If it cannot tell I'm NOT intending to unlock then its just the same old Touch ID.
 
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Nononono, that's a no go.
That would be very insecure, I bet that most people use their AW to unlock their home based Macs only, not on the mobile ones.
Maybe the option to use this feature. I would for convenience. A iPhone is the ultimate convenience device
 
Let’s face it this is coming not just due to the pandemic. This has been in development for years. I also don’t get the whole mask thing I mean where are people going where they need to use their phone when they have their mask on? Shops? Walking in the street?
I have to wear my mask at work all day.
 
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I really hope Apple implement Touch ID across all the iphone 13 models, so then i can get the 13 Mini. If they dont, i will have to bite the bullet and fork out the £1000 and get the 13 Pro (i might be able to get it slightly cheaper). If they dont implement Touch ID at all, then ill probably just stick with my 12 mini.
 
I don't think I would use face ID going forward in most cases, especially if my phone is already unlocked by the time it is pulled from my pocket and in front of my face as was most often the case with touch id.
TouchID worked well like that because there was physical feedback as to where the home button was. The convenience of Apple's under screen will be affected by how large of a hit target TouchID-2 has. I think we've already seen an example of under screen Touch-ID with what is on the MacBook keyboards; it doesn't seem to have capacitive/physical aspect to its functionality so the main difference is that its keyboard screen doesn't display anything.
 
Let’s face it this is coming not just due to the pandemic. This has been in development for years. I also don’t get the whole mask thing I mean where are people going where they need to use their phone when they have their mask on? Shops? Walking in the street?
I do not know where you live but here, Spain, Masks are mandatory. You leave your house, you wear a mask. Period. If you walk thru town without, its a 100Euro fine on the spot. Public transport, taxis, shops, supermarkets, everywhere you wear a mask. So every time you like to look at your phone for lets say an e-mail, a Whatsapp, telegram, signal, twitter ect, you need to unlock. You like to send a message? Make a call? Pay? Anything? You need to unlock. With the Mask its very hard with a complicated password.
 
I do not know where you live but here, Spain, Masks are mandatory. You leave your house, you wear a mask. Period. If you walk thru town without, its a 100Euro fine on the spot. Public transport, taxis, shops, supermarkets, everywhere you wear a mask. So every time you like to look at your phone for lets say an e-mail, a Whatsapp, telegram, signal, twitter ect, you need to unlock. You like to send a message? Make a call? Pay? Anything? You need to unlock. With the Mask its very hard with a complicated password.

Really? Think the UK needs to enforce your rules...maybe if they did our country wouldn’t be such a bad mess. Got idiots still having house parties of 30 people
 
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