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boring

yawn.

Luckily I broke my contract and now enjoy the freedom of Net10 prepaid, so I can hold on to my 4s a year longer for the 6.
 
I was watching the Samsung event yesterday and it makes me wonder why Apple never considered waterproofing or at least splash-proofing their phones. Apple is a huge company, there should be no excuse for slow rate of improvements and the apparent lack of innovation.
 
How can complain when you do not know what the updates are to this model? Yes, it looks the same - this is to be expected since it is an S update. Given the history of iPhone updates, it will have features the model before did not. I am just saying to the moaners to stop moaning until it is known what they are, then decide if you wish to update.
As for your nicks - you are to blame, not Apple. Look after your device and it will not nick.

Who was to blame when people received their iphone scratched right out of the box?
 
I think that peoples expectations are way out of kilter these days. I'm not sure if it's a generation thing but I'm seeing it in all areas of life now. The general public (not sure what the age group is but I could probably make an educated guess) are so much more demanding these days.

It wasn't so long ago that we didn't even have internet (for the masses before anyone picks up on that) let alone the type of incredibly fast moving technology we have now.

You can see that expectations are ridiculously out of kilter just by looking at reviews on the App Store. People seem to constantly be complaining even if something is offered free.

I think that most of it has to do with people who have grown up with this fast paced technology world we now live in and they've not known anything different...it's a strange old world!
 
Bad Photography

This photo description makes no sense. It's a blurred photograph of the an iPhone 5. If you look closely it's obvious. So I guess there are two ambient noise sensors too? This is bogus. Everyone calm down and wait for a legitimate photo.
 
Geez Louise. All these people who reach back to Apple's old ad campaigns and either were too young to remember, have selective memory, or outright amnesia.

Back in the "Think Different" era (and before in some cases) the new iMac model was... a different color, or colors, or dots or flowers. The 7xxx and 8xxx series Power Macs models existed for at least a year, often two, without any update at all, even a speed bump. And how many ship dates did Apple miss. Oh boy. The new polycarb G4/G4 PM cases went from blue to gray to mirrored to aluminum, and up until the recent update, the PM/MP case has been virtually unchanged for 10 years. And the PB/MBP is also pretty much the same shell, moderinzed, much like a Porsche 911.

So please don't delve back to the "good old days" of Apple to make a point that doesn't bolster your argument. You need to know history, not just slogans.

All of your examples prove the OP's point. Did we know when the G4 PM would be updated? When it might be a minor spec bump or a larger leap? No. Did we know when / if the iMac would come out with new colors or spec bumps? No. How the form factor would change, if at all? No. Now with the iPhone, unless Apple shakes things up, "innovation" only happens on a very predictable two-year schedule. We know that in even-numbered years, we will have a new form factor for iPhone. In odd-numbered years, there will be the same form factor with a model ending in -S. We may not know the exact month the phone will come out, but we know the pattern.

It is an artificial schedule not based on innovation, but on when Apple thinks the best time to sell a new form factor will be. Or do you think that Apple just coincidentally has a new viable idea for a new phone every two years? And ideas to improve the internal specs the following year? Apple is a business and I'm not saying that they shouldn't do things according to a set schedule, but it seems obvious their releases at least for the iPhone are less based on innovation and more based on "it is time to release a new product".
 
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Don't think you appreciate the effort that goes in to designing something. I guess you want new iMacs and MacBook re designs every year too?
Nope. I want new designs when they are created, not hampered by an artificial product release cycle. ;)


It also wasn't "Think Different in 12 month predictable increments."!
I didn't say 12 months, I said it's possible to break the mold of 2 year product cycles. But apparently that's too much for fanboys to handle, we all saw how butthurt they were when iPad 4 was released. :rolleyes:

Geez Louise. All these people who reach back to Apple's old ad campaigns and either were too young to remember, have selective memory, or outright amnesia.

Back in the "Think Different" era (and before in some cases) the new iMac model was... a different color, or colors, or dots or flowers. The 7xxx and 8xxx series Power Macs models existed for at least a year, often two, without any update at all, even a speed bump. And how many ship dates did Apple miss. Oh boy. The new polycarb G4/G4 PM cases went from blue to gray to mirrored to aluminum, and up until the recent update, the PM/MP case has been virtually unchanged for 10 years. And the PB/MBP is also pretty much the same shell, moderinzed, much like a Porsche 911.

So please don't delve back to the "good old days" of Apple to make a point that doesn't bolster your argument. You need to know history, not just slogans.
Your reply has far too much logic for me to fathom. What do you think this is, a serious conversation? ;)
 
I didn't say 12 months, I said it's possible to break the mold of 2 year product cycles. But apparently that's too much for fanboys to handle, we all saw how butthurt they were when iPad 4 was released. :rolleyes:

You've missed the entire point, I wasn't expecting you to understand my comment...:rolleyes:
 
Or conversely, "my iPhone 5 is scratched" <-- so this is a problem for everyone. Nice logic there :rolleyes:
You keep on thinking that. ;)

Or conversely, I'm gonna keep buying this phone even though I hate it :rolleyes:
That's essentially what users are pushed into doing when their phones get old and there's only one product with the iOS ecosystem. You gonna re-buy all my apps for me Mr. Moneybags? :cool:

Name some innovations you're looking for?
Not my job. I know you don't like hearing that, but it's true. :cool:

Did I miss something where it was written that you have to buy the new iPhone? If you don't like it don't buy it, or switch to another phone. Not sure why this is such a hard concept to grasp for some.
No one is forced to buy the new iPhone, but that's the way the world works. :apple:
 
Yeah...

I'm in kind of a frustrating spot myself. I have a 16GB iPhone 5 but it was company issued. Now they've decided to switch to a "bring your own device" model where they pay us a monthly stipend and we pay our own phone bills.

As a concession, they said they'd pay any early termination fees on the existing contracts and let us keep our phones we have now, which is pretty cool. But this one is with AT&T right now and I don't want to stick with them.

Unfortunately, I'm told that even if I get AT&T to unlock this one (which means a couple weeks or so of no functional phone, since they won't do the unlock until my work pays the final bill for it after I call to disconnect service), it's not a model that does one of the frequencies T-Mobile uses for high-speed data. So switching to them by swapping SIM cards means a phone that can't take full advantage of their network, if I go with them.

I could just sell my 5 on eBay as an unlocked unit and get a new 5 with T-Mobile, I guess. But then I'm stuck making monthly payments on it for up to 2 years and definitely missing the chance to get a 5s.

I think I may just get a new 5 for T-Mobile, sell the existing 5 after waiting for the unlock to get done, and try to pay the thing off early.... but forego the 5s. I don't think the fingerprint sensor stuff will be something I miss anyway. And dual flash? Eh... best photos I get with my iPhone are always with the flash OFF.


Nice, but i will pass because i love my iPhone 5, 5s wont have any big improvemets comparing with 5, also fifth iPhone will get all iOS7 features, works superb fast... so not worth for iPhone 5 owners upgrading to 5s
 
I’m still using an iPhone 4S because quite frankly I was unenthused by the iPhone 5 when it was first released. It seemed to be a fairly ‘dilute’ product, and I saw no particular need to upgrade.

Now, if they consolidate the design and review the specs a little, I’ll be quite willing to jump ship, mainly because my trusty 4S is really starting to show it’s age and because there’s a plentiful number of apps out there that take advantage of the 5’s enlarged screen format.

Still, it seems to me that from the 5 onwards Apple has lost it’s way a little, erring on the side of conservative caution. Which is quite understandable, but a little sad, too.

I’m still hoping that the front bezel of this thing might reveal something interesting, ‘unexpected’ and useful such as a fingerprint sensor and NFC communications to argument credit cards at POS, but I think the chances are slim.

Lol come on now. iPhone 5 ' dilute' (makes no sense). "Useful" things such as fingerprint sensors and NFC?

Please tell me, what is so useful about a fingerprint sensor? Besides being something annoying that will not be secure, not be reliable, and otherwise get old after 24 hours ( aka GIMMICK, see:"Samsung" ).

NFC has you confused. There is no real world use for it at this time, and it is not WORTH using because it is already old technology that has gotten passed over because of how terribly insecure it is. Truly, it is dangerous tech. Very low tech, not sophisticated at all. Easily, easily hacked from a distance, with nothing more than some cheap hardware in a thief's pocket.

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I was watching the Samsung event yesterday and it makes me wonder why Apple never considered waterproofing or at least splash-proofing their phones. Apple is a huge company, there should be no excuse for slow rate of improvements and the apparent lack of innovation.

iPhones already do well with brief exposure to water. But honestly, is it a good business plan to make your products indestructible? Lots of money in replacements. Even under warranty.
 
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