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Google Pixel 2 XL - 6/10
Apple iPhone X - 6/10

Battery Life
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Google Pixel XL 2 - 8h 57m
Apple iPhone X - 8h 41m


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^ My LG phones from last year are laughing at all those "fast charging" speeds. I get 75 minutes, tops. Less than 30 seconds if I want to swap batteries. My S7e was similar to Note8's (90 min).

LG G5 scored 8/10 on iFixit, highest from last year. No bootloops or GPS issues for me! I can use them forever and ever. Not under the mercy with a sealed battery. My Lucky Goldstars. Life's Good!

My next phone is likely Sony. Going to change the design next year. Nomore of that Omnibalance they used since 2013. Hopefully, Sony keeps headphone jack and microSD slot. I want PS4 remote play. They make camera sensors but Sony has some of the worst cameras for flagship phones.

Both Pixel XL and iPhone X are flawed. One won't work with macOS, poor display, and too tall while the other isn't seamless with my work flow because iOS has inferior tethering, Dasher menu, toggles, and notification system than Android's.
 
Thanks for fixing the written review to reflect the battery life observations from the video.

However, you state in the article the the iPhone X does better “in some tests”.

I have yet to see a single test that demonstrates superior battery life from the PIXEL 2XL.

Why hedge? The iPhone X has better battery life than the Pixel 2XL.

There are certainly some tests where the Pixel 2 XL has outlasted the iPhone X. Example: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-pixel-2-xl-vs-iphone-x,review-4728.html
 
Google Docs is multi-platform. Pages, Numbers, Keynote (a joke application, honestly) only live on iOS and Mac. I have a mac at home and I love it, but if I need to work on a document at work, Apple has given me no help.

Apple's had web interfaces for its iWork apps for years. Where have you been?
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On a pro-Apple site, this is a stupid review. He's trying so hard to sound fair and objective, etc. He seems hesitant (or afraid) to simply declare iPhone X as the obvious winner. It's ridiculous. I'll ignore all future iPhone reviews from this site.
 
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Why do we always say this is an Apple Fan site? I thought this is macrumors. Anybody can come here to know about mac/apple news. May be they should change the name to macfan or applefan to make it obvious.

Because if you mention anything other than Apple a lot of posters will consider you an all out enemy and bash everything you say that doesn’t praise Apple. They don’t like to hear other opinions on different tech. They think Apple is the best company that makes no mistakes and makes the perfect product for EVERYONE.

Just like with wireless charging. A lot say it’s just gimmicky and it’s a useless feature. Now that Apple implemented it, it’s the best feature of the decade.

James
 
Google is amazing software company, hardware not yet, but they're trying and Apple better be ready. iOS 11 was and still is the buggiest release to date.
 
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Even I'm surprised at this article.

I mean I get that being well rounded with iPhone and Android is a good thing but I really don't think the Pixel 2XL is on par with the X.

Sure you've got green line issues, cold weather instability, a few quirks with Face ID and typical OLED issues but the Pixel 2XL has had a huge myriad of issues on a larger scale. I mean, they even shipped a few with no OS at all!

I'm not bashing android here, I've got a V30 daily driver. I just think this year wasn't Googles greatest.
 
Do they really? Cause that's news to most. It's known that most low end Android manufacturers are not known for updates.

Is that really a thing? Had smartphones since the Treo 650. Don't remember ever going to a store for support.

Not needed for most.

OP 5 is a joke. It's the "Settle Phone"/

Been digging the Axon 7 since March - $399, very speedy, competent, HiFi DAC, QHD OLED, great speakers, and ZTE has been good with the updates.
- Sounds like you never use Xiaomi. Even on my old cheap Redmi 2, Xiaomi still pushes security updates. Xiaomi is a different breed than other Android OEMs.
- A physical store is great when you need them. At the price Google is charging similar to Apple, I expect the same level of service. Heck, even Samsung has physical stores for support. That justifies premium pricing. Google just wants the profit without actually providing the service.
- Not needed? Says you. At Apple prices, I expect that, since Apple does provide international warranty/support. If Google wants to charge Apple prices but don't want to give the support, then less reason to get a Pixel.
- If OnePlus 5 is a joke for you, then the Pixel is a complete joke. More expensive, less performance. Personally I now prefer Xiaomi, but I'll take OnePlus anytime over Google's overpriced Pixel.
- The fact that you like the Axon 7 means that it's another supporting evidence how the Pixel is a joke, and Google is just trolling its fanboys.
 
I will say that what I am impressed with on the X is the face sensor. I am almost forgetting that it is secure. The swipe gestures at the bottom are also very intuitive.

For me iPhone wins on the ecosystem (and display.) Google has documents and that world but not an entire ecosystem of messaging and task lists.

I agree about the FaceId it's pretty impressive. And, it's easy to forget that it is truly a locked phone... that only unlocks for one person. That is, unless you give someone else your phone code. I just hope that in future revisions, they will allow for more than one face to unlock the phone. But, no complaints from me with how it works now.
 
There’s no logic that I can understand why one would pay such premium for an Android phone.
For the Pixel, you’re paying premium price, but
- you’re still sacrificing your privacy You still believe your privacy is yours and Apple doesn't know everything about you. Cute.
- only 2 year of OS updates and 3 year of security updates from its release date. Even Xiaomi supports their cheap phones longer than that Three versions of Android and security updates after that. So four years.
- no physical store you can go to to get support Google sends post-haste replacements overnight
- no support outside the country you bought it from Not sure if that's true or not
- performs worse than a cheaper OnePlus 5 So why would you buy iPhone? OnePlus is a better phone than iPhone

If Android is a must for you, Xiaomi Mi A1 runs stock Android, has same OS support as Pixel, at less than half the price. Want top performance? OnePlus 5. Want premium? Even a Samsung S8 is better than the Pixel (better screen, IP68, headphone jack).

Google is really trolling the their fanboys with the Pixel, and ask for a lot of money at the same time. Yes, well you run iOS 11, so you're not much of a judge on quality, are you?
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Apple's had web interfaces for its iWork apps for years. Where have you been?
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Have you used them? Are you serious right now? They're terrible.
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Any phone that runs Android is a losing phone IMHO.
You dislike options and superior performance?
 
I will never understand customization on a phone. Why? The only person who will see it at the end of the day is you. All it does is make your phone slower and wastes space.
Good thing Android is lightning fast on the Pixel and no customization is required.

Also all the default services are superior on Pixel.
 
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Other than the camera, the hardware on the Pixel is a turd. Its saving grace is the software.

The A11 trounces the 835. Unfortunately, iOS11 is makes the device slower than an old device running iOS10. Hopefully Apple can address that in an update.
I'm confused. The pixel has a better rear camera, front facing camera, better fast charging, speakers, battery and you state the hardware is a turd? What does the iPhone x have that is better hardware? The screen and that's about it.
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Android battery life is a myth. Only the huge thick Chinese phones are beating the iPhone 8 Plus, and that is only because they have 4,000 mAh batteries, or more.

According to actual quantitative tests as by GSM Arena, iPhones of all vintages are at the top of the heap in terms of battery life.

In the video of this MacRumors review, the author clearly states that he gets 7-8 hours of screen-on time with the iPhone X and 4-5 hours of screen-on with the Pixel 2XL.

I’m getting 8-9 hours of screen-on time with my iPhone X. As I type this on my iPhone X, charge remaining is 16% and screen-on time is 7h20m.
Can you see screen on time now in iOS 11? Pretty sure it has always been usage which includes time the screen is off.
 
I gotta say, phones have been kinda “meh” for a while. FaveID is interesting and the first thing that’s interested me in a while. For what I use my phone for though? I’d be happy with my 5S (have a 6S because my mom needed a new phone).

At this point virtually everything is good enough. For me the iPhones win for a few reasons:
  • I have a lot of Apple gear and it really works very well together.
  • I really like the Watch.
  • I like Apple’s commitment to privacy. Google’s entire business model creeps me out.
Modern flagship phones are mostly awesome at this point though. Calling any of these wonder devices “trash” is... ridiculous.

And for everything I like about Apple they really do certain crap things (e.g. the weaksauce camera on the smaller iPhones. Not everyone who gets smaller phones gets them to be “cheap”. My laptop, phone, tablet, and watch are intentionally smaller form factors and it’s not because they’re less expensive.) It’s less about anything objective at this point and more about preference and circumstance.

Siri sucks? Siri delivers pretty damn well for the tasks I use. There’s also a cost for Google’s superiority in that realm. It’s a price I’m not comfortable paying. If you feel as I do a lot of Google’s services aren’t superior.
 
What’s the point of comparisons, it’s not even close. iPhone X will be remembered as a device far ahead of its time. iOS has always been in a class of its own, but the hardware had a few shortcomings until now. This is victory by landslide for Apple, and I don’t care if any of you think any differently. Men lie, women lie, but numbers don’t. As Jobs said, “people vote with their wallets”. Let’s see if Google’s pathetic attempt at hardware even get close to 1% of Apple’s success.
Every unbiased and objective review out there concludes there are pros and cons for each of these devices. It's not even close to a "landslide." And this 1% thing is just plain laughable. I'd love to make a wager on that.

I'd personally not buy the Pixel. But let's not fool ourselves here. Plenty will be sold.
 
> So which of these devices is better? It's impossible to say.

No it's not.



(to the author, don't take this personally - we just really like our iPhones :) )

I do too but this is a really fair site to compare apple products with...lol
 
I'm confused. The pixel has a better rear camera, front facing camera, better fast charging, speakers, battery and you state the hardware is a turd? What does the iPhone x have that is better hardware? The screen and that's about it.
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Can you see screen on time now in iOS 11? Pretty sure it has always been usage which includes time the screen is off.
You can't, so you can't validate it as a metric. Plus, SOT is a bad metric. Reality is, most users have their phone screens off most of the time.
 
There’s no logic that I can understand why one would pay such premium for an Android phone.
For the Pixel, you’re paying premium price, but
- you’re still sacrificing your privacy You still believe your privacy is yours and Apple doesn't know everything about you. Cute.
- only 2 year of OS updates and 3 year of security updates from its release date. Even Xiaomi supports their cheap phones longer than that Three versions of Android and security updates after that. So four years.
- no physical store you can go to to get support Google sends post-haste replacements overnight
- no support outside the country you bought it from Not sure if that's true or not
- performs worse than a cheaper OnePlus 5 So why would you buy iPhone? OnePlus is a better phone than iPhone

If Android is a must for you, Xiaomi Mi A1 runs stock Android, has same OS support as Pixel, at less than half the price. Want top performance? OnePlus 5. Want premium? Even a Samsung S8 is better than the Pixel (better screen, IP68, headphone jack).

Google is really trolling the their fanboys with the Pixel, and ask for a lot of money at the same time. Yes, well you run iOS 11, so you're not much of a judge on quality, are you?
- I'll trust Apple anytime more than Google. I don't mind Google mining my data if I get some benefit (discounted handset ala Nexus). But paying premium for an Android phone? Only fools would do that.
- You're partially correct. Google updated their policy to provide 3 years of updates for the Pixel 2 (Pixel 1 users still only get 2 years from release date). But no guarantees on even security updates after that. But you expect that for the premium pricing. Yet at the same time I can get a Xiaomi Mi A1 for less than half the price of the Pixel, and still enjoy the stock Android and update experience.
- Good to know, but availability of physical stores to go to as an additional channel of support is better than none, especially at the premium price Google is charging.
- Sounds like you never step out of the country?
- iPhone runs iOS. I cannot buy OnePlus 5 and run iOS apps. But I can buy OnePlus 5 and run the same apps as the overpriced Pixel 2. Heck, I can buy a Xiaomi for less than half the price of the Pixel and run the same apps as well.

Even if you are a rich Android fanboy and want to pay premium prices, why would you want to pay for a Pixel 2 when a Galaxy S8/Note 8 has a much better screen, headphone jack, and better IP68? Sounds like you like being trolled by Google. You attacking iOS11 doesn't have any relevance here, other than you are running out of arguments.
 
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