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The pixel doesn’t run iOS and so isn't comparable. Most of us and our families have invested in one eco system or the other so this sort of article is always completely pointless. It answers all of the wrong questions.

Can the Pixel run all of my family’s iOS apps?
Can the Pixel iMessage me?
Can the Pixel FaceTime me?
Does the Pixel allow me to track it via Find My Friends?
Can the Pixel use our family shared iCloud space?


And you are an Apple user :) That's probably the huge grab of all these points.
 
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The pixel doesn’t run iOS and so isn't comparable. Most of us and our families have invested in one eco system or the other so this sort of article is always completely pointless. It answers all of the wrong questions.

Can the Pixel run all of my family’s iOS apps?
Can the Pixel iMessage me?
Can the Pixel FaceTime me?
Does the Pixel allow me to track it via Find My Friends?
Can the Pixel use our family shared iCloud space?

Why do you think anyone here is talking about YOU?

Sorry to break it to you, I think nobody is interested in what you want. Be happy with your iPhone.
 
Why do you think anyone here is talking about YOU?

Sorry to break it to you, I think nobody is interested in what you want. Be happy with your iPhone.
Sorry, was I being too erudite for you? I wasn't talking about ME specifically. For many an iPhone or Android phone isn't a singular thing to be taken in isolation. It's an eco-system. That decision has already been taken to a greater or lesser degree, depending on your circumstances.

Let's keep the discussion friendly shall we? It's so much more enjoyable that way.
 
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I really don't like Chinese brands. South Korea tries to innovate. Japan tried to innovate. Chinese just copies others because they are made in China and then sell it for cheap. I don't like the PC Suites that Xiaomi and Huawei uses.

Next in line -
Sony
Nokia
Motorola

Any phone with microSD slot so I can transfer files with my MBA. I may never buy a Pixel again because of its Mac incompatibility. I will buy another iPhone if Apple can improve iOS more.
Motorola is now Lenovo, a Chinese company, and it shows. Motorola doesn’t seem to have any focus now. It is making more models than it should (Moto C, Moto M, etc, and they overlap each other, using the same internals). Even though it still uses a very close to stock Android, Lenovo’s track record is not something you can rely on.

If you don’t bother too much with spec for the dollar, Nokia seems to be promising.

Personally, IMO although the Chinese copies, Android phones all run the same apps that I don’t really care if the OEMs copying each other. If I can get a great Android phone for less, why not. Sure, there’s the notorious copiers like Oppo/Vivo, but companies like Xiaomi and Huawei are trying to separate themselves. If I was looking for an Android phone today, my vote is for the XIaomi Mi A1. Android One, stock Android, dual camera, at less than half the price of the Pixel. The Pixel sure looks nicer, but I’m not paying double just to be able to squeeze my phone.
 
I'm sorry, but let's recap Pixel 2/XL issues:

  • Grainy LED panel provided by LG, check
  • Burn-in on 2-week old LED green, check
  • Ships with missing accessories in the box, check
  • Ships with NO OPERATING SYSTEM, check
Who's the tester???

I hate trolls...

I agree. Horrible and biased review.

How the hell do you conclude that the tech for camera is better than the iPhone? Let’s assume they’re pretty close for regular shots and studio shots, but the glaring omission of a 2X optical zoom On the pixel is humongous for real users. Also a 70% increase in battery life, a processor that obliterates the snap dragon, oh yea and a display that’s not warmed over crap are treated like no big deal. Oh, and the ever present lack of security updates on Android (the Krack WiFi flaw won’t be updated in any reasonable amount of time) makes this review particularly more imbecilic than that of the average Android partisan.

I want my 5 minutes back. I expected way better from macrumors.
 
iPhone X is cheaper when you consider it has 5 years of guaranteed updates vs. 2 years for the Pixel :)

Yeah 4-5 updates slowing your device down :p

While a valid point, I think most update within 2 years. For ones that want value for their money, it's good
 
I’d like to make a suggestion to the reviewer. Change up the way you speak. Your voice is fine but your tone is far too repetitive.

Also, I’d like to see some real innovation in the smart phone industry. How about an app that makes the sound of a light saber when you swoosh it around like a Jedi. That’s got all kinds of uses. Well just the one use and not that useful in terms of productivity but still. Get on it geniuses.
 
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These phones aren't even on the same planet, for me personally.

The Pixel has an excellent camera but:
  • Mostly Plastic
  • Has Huge Bezels
  • An inferior OLED from LG. Color shift. Burn in.
  • Less premium build quality
  • Generally Ugly
  • No wireless charging.
  • Removed headphone jack after making fun of Apple...loses all credibility
Apple and Tim Crook (oops, Crook? I meant Cook) "lost all credibility" when they said last year they pay all their taxes and don't hide overseas money, yet we find out through the Paradise Papers that was all BS. They hide their money in the English Channel and pay minimum tax while hoarding $265B overseas.

That's totally unAmerican wouldn't you say? Of course not. Because they made a shiny new toy to distract you.
 
I agree. Horrible and biased review.

How the hell do you conclude that the tech for camera is better than the iPhone? Let’s assume they’re pretty close for regular shots and studio shots, but the glaring omission of a 2X optical zoom On the pixel is humongous for real users. Also a 70% increase in battery life, a processor that obliterates the snap dragon, oh yea and a display that’s not warmed over crap are treated like no big deal. Oh, and the ever present lack of security updates on Android (the Krack WiFi flaw won’t be updated in any reasonable amount of time) makes this review particularly more imbecilic than that of the average Android partisan.

I want my 5 minutes back. I expected way better from macrumors.

Let me guess, you have not touched or seen a pixel 2, but want to discredit the reviewer for his opinions ..... biased much? That's a rhetorical question.

Two nice phones, pros / cons . We got both at work, the X is not better than the pixel at everything....... to say that is being biased
. Each to their own
 
iPhone X is cheaper when you consider it has 5 years of guaranteed updates vs. 2 years for the Pixel :)

The Pixel is actually guaranteed 3 years of updates and then you could easily root and install a custom ROM to keep up to date by unlocking the bootloader and installing new firmware. Very easy on a Pixel, but you wouldn't know about that because all you see on an iPhone are a whole grid of ugly icons and Apple won't let you do anything even remotely cool with the phone. Apple owns you. I own my phone.
 
Nobody should be voting with his money for a product that calls him stupid. And that's exactly what a phone without a headphone jack does.

Apple doubles down on the insult by peddling an idiotic glass phone with ever-more-pathetic battery life.

Google deserves everyone's scorn for fielding an inept mess of an OS that can't be updated by users themselves on the day of its release. Who releases a new OS in the 2000s that lacks a proper hardware abstraction layer or driver model, which would have enabled the OS to be updated without breaking all the crapware that's ladled on by telcos?

Android was supposed to be the great "open-source" OS that would free us all from vendor and telco tyranny. It has spectacularly failed to do so.
 
No need to compare from where I’m sitting. Google doesn’t sell nor support any of their pixel products in my country and it’s not available from any carriers here either. I guess 5.7 million people isn’t enough. Meanwhile, Apple happily includes my country in the first wave. Needless to say, I find it hard to be loyal to a company that doesn’t even want to do business with me.
 
iPhone X is cheaper when you consider it has 5 years of guaranteed updates vs. 2 years for the Pixel :)
Don't now about the five years of upgrades but it is not relevant when you consider your iPhone will run like sh|t within two years because of battery degradation and updates on IOS which will slow it down significantly.
 
Superior camera

Superior front facing camera, I'll give the Pixel 2 XL that. The details in the shadows in the outdoor shots are of more value to me overall and the iPhone X seemed to do a better job there according to the SuperSafTV video. Plus 2x optical zoom on the iPhone X. Strengths and weaknesses with both, but which camera is best depends on in which (light) situation you mostly shoot, I think.
 
One thing that really puts me off this phone is the fact that Google does everything in their power to havest your personal data and on top of this they still charge you top dollar.
 
Google Home is an actual vessel for Google Assistant, a superior AI effort to Apple. HomePod is a music curator for $350. Once Google Home integrates with Sonos (2018), the only thing keeping the HomePod afloat will be iSheep.

Google Play music and Apple Music are essentially the same. GPM has a much better interface (Apple playing major catchup with Apple Music because the first version was a mess).

Google Docs is multi-platform. Pages, Numbers, Keynote (a joke application, honestly) only live on iOS and Mac. I have a mac at home and I love it, but if I need to work on a document at work, Apple has given me no help.

Google Photos is significantly better than Apple's iteration. Apple has done a lot to catch up, but even on iOS, Google Photos is a better photos application than Photos.App.

He's not wrong. The reason to go Pixel is all software and services. For the longest time, the Android benefit was "Hey, you get the best services, but if you don't like ours, make someone else's the default". Now, Android has leapfrogged iOS 11, the services are still better, and Apple has neglected Siri beyond usefulness.
You have a VERY strong persuasive opinion. It is that strong, that exchanging point of views makes no sense anymore. You could improve a lot on this to make you a trustworthy source.
 
Having a bad display and a great camera is akin to smearing the viewfinder of your Hasselblad/Leica/Nikon with strawberry jam before each photo session.
 
People get way too emotional over a damn phone. If you prefer a hardware experience buy an iPhone, if you want a more fluid software experience buy a Pixel. Why is this so hard? iOS has been garbage for years now. Anyone stating otherwise is just being disingenuous.

Android is in another league right now. Don't believe me? Try a Pixel and take a picture. That's all software!


Garbage? I think things aren't that black-or-white: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

Even if Android perhaps is better overall (though I think that depends on the user) but does that mean iOS is ”garbage” and that it has zero advantages over Android? I think not.

As for the photos: In this test (also linked to in a post by @KingslayerG5 above) the back camera on the iPhone X overall fares better in my opinion (2x optical zoom and more detail in the shadows) while the front camera on the Pixel does a better job overall: iPhone X vs Pixel 2 XL Camera Test Comparison
 
Let me guess, you have not touched or seen a pixel 2, but want to discredit the reviewer for his opinions ..... biased much? That's a rhetorical question.

Two nice phones, pros / cons . We got both at work, the X is not better than the pixel at everything....... to say that is being biased
. Each to their own

I have and also owned the last few nexus phones as well—warmed Over crap.

As for bias, Not nearly as much as you or the reviewer. Thanks for conceding the points with your ad hominem admission. Enjoy losing arguments much? That’s a rhetorical question.
 
I believe the Pixel2 XL has a significantly larger image sensor so it's low light performance destroys the iPhone's. It it also captures more detail IIRC from doing A/B comparisons of photos from iPhone 8+ and Pixel2XL.

For the price range of iPhones Apple uses the smallest image sensors in the industry.

Still there are a lot more details in the shadows of the iPhone X when using the back camera in the tests done here: iPhone X vs Pixel 2 XL Camera Test Comparison and it has 2x optical zoom.


Now that's interesting! Wonder if Apple uses (or will use) the ”bionic” part of the A11 for something similar. :)
 
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