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Apple's iPhone XS, XS Max and XR Won't Ship With Lightning to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

PlayUltimate said:
It is not as if workable and useable headphones were not included in the box.
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You mean the Lightning EarPods that literally can’t be used on any other device?

Even if I wanted to use them with my iPhone, I’d have to have another pair of headphones to use with any other device, because there is literally NO adapter to use the included Lightning headphones with anything else, not even with a Mac!

And of course if anyone wants decent quality headphones, they’ll need to buy a new pair, or an adapter.

So while you’re correct, a customer can use headphones immediately out of the box with no additional purchases; unless they’re happy with lower quality, single device use, they will have to spend more money. The adapter was far more useful in that regard, since anyone buying an iPhone, almost certainly already has a pair of headphones. Fortunately it’s only $9.
 
WatchFromAfar said:
Why was it unnecessary? Perhaps you want the earphones of your choice?

Oh you "have etc etc", that makes it OK for Apple to do this, because you have a certain type of earphones? how about those that don't?
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Because there are plenty of alternatives at all price points, including high-end headphones for audiophiles.

But regardless the adapter is still available for $9 and they include Lightning EarPods for those that don’t really care about what they listen with.
 
MICHAELSD said:
Because there are plenty of alternatives at all price points, including high-end headphones for audiophiles.

But regardless the adapter is still available for $9 and they include Lightning EarPods for those that don’t really care about what they listen with.
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You're missing the point. Lets say you have great, fantastic ear phones that will last you the rest of your life. Apple doesn't support them anymore; there a great company yes? (or no)
 
WatchFromAfar said:
You're missing the point. Lets say you have great, fantastic ear phones that will last you the rest of your life. Apple doesn't support them anymore; there a great company yes? (or no)
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Let's say you had a great 8-track player in your car. Let's say you had a great cassette player. Let's say you had a great VHS player. Let's say you had great apps that ran in OS9 (Apple Works) that are no longer supported. . . technology changes.
 
citysnaps said:
Nope. Not defending Apple at all. See my above posts about giving your business to companies who provide what you want. Don't like Apple's value proposition, pick another company that does.
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Classic American exceptionalism vis a vis capitalism. You ignore the point and then gesture to the free market, meanwhile betraying your understanding as facile and glib.
 
PlayUltimate said:
Let's say you had a great 8-track player in your car. Let's say you had a great cassette player. Let's say you had a great VHS player. Let's say you had great apps that ran in OS9 (Apple Works) that are no longer supported. . . technology changes.
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The thing is the 3.5mm jack has lasted close to hundred years, and guessing a hundred more after we die. None of those things you mentioed lasted after a decade or so.

Here's the thing you say "technology changes" no it doesn't that 3.5mm jack was fine then and it's fine for evermore. You can be dumb and convince yourself you're living in the future by other options. That's up to you
 
212rikanmofo said:
Most greediest company ever. I wish Steve Jobs was still here. :( Apple isn't the same anymore. It was once unique and stood out, but now they're like any other tech companies. Money has taken over as their top priority. Such a shame.
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You do recall how expensive Apple products were under Jobs right?
 
7 years its been and still people here bang on about SJ and what he would or wouldn't have done product or apple wise - you knew him that well did you ? Get a Christmas card and invites for tea ? Jeez, roll on young blood here who will have no idea who he was.
 
MICHAELSD said:
Fast chargers are cool but degrade the battery faster, and the majority of people aren’t using USB-C yet. They’ll make the transition eventually.
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The majority of people aren’t using Bluetooth headphones yet either.
 
I love the inane thought of Cook & the Cookettes dancing wild in the Boardroom - as they saved another $5.
That idea alone I'd value at $50
 
That kind of sucks. I used bluetooth for years at this point, but many people still use 3.5mm.
 
s15119 said:
Good. If I need one, I can buy one.
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Ya I mean who doesn’t like to pay more for less and if we need one we’ll just pay extra on top of that lol. How anyone can say “good” is beyond me. Even if you don’t use it you can surely see why some do.
 
s15119 said:
I won't be paying a cent extra. It's unneeded. It comes with headphones that work perfectly and I have several wireless models I can also use. Why would I want to legacy dongle? it's waste for most people. But it gives the negative nellies and apple haters something to crow about
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Actually you are paying more because they are saving mo way off of you. Also, too bad those lightning headphones won’t work in any other Apple product besides the iPad. Guess you’d need some sort of single afterall to use headphones on the Macs
 
twlemons said:
I have never used the adapter to begin with. I use bluetooth headphones and audio connections in my vehicle. Apple is not being greedy. They know a large number of people don't use the adapter and end up throwing them away or they get lost. It is being environmentally responsible by reducing plastic. The pice for the adapter is well below any of their other accessories. More and more phone manufacturers are doing this now. We did it to ourselves by wanting thinner phones and more battery life. Realestate on the phone is extremely limited....you have to give up something to get something. I would take stereo speakers on my phone any day like they have then have a silly outdated jack.
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Since when is the jack outdated? Since Apple removed it? The jack is a worldwide accepted connector.
 
eyeless said:
An iPhone is not a good listening device either way, but I use my iPhone SE as a backup when my iPod Nano goes out of power and surely I won't carry around an adapter just for that. Usually only attach earbuds to the iPhone when having a long talk (typically at work). Also Apple doesn't produce any good hearing devices anyway (for music). There are other solutions however, but believe my old equipment are superior to any bluetooth or lightening devices yet out there, so iPod Nano for me. I buy a new iPhone any day they have a new one lighter than 150 grams, no bigger than iPhone SE, no slippery rounded edges, and a better camera, with an old headphone jak, but until then cannot see why one should spend money for mostly useless features added.
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What?
 
Skoal said:
You have no use so it’s stupid? Great logic. I love self obsessed people. Lol
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My point was that a large portion of iPhone customers don't use them. They end up in landfills. Rather than include them in every box, why not make those that need them buy them and spare everyone else (and the environment) the expense.
 
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Skoal said:
Ya I mean who doesn’t like to pay more for less and if we need one we’ll just pay extra on top of that lol. How anyone can say “good” is beyond me. Even if you don’t use it you can surely see why some do.
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After reading a few of your replies, I would have to suggest that you buy other products. There are many fine Android phones that might meet your needs. And they even have their own forums. Bye.
 
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