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Apple's Jonathan Ive Considering Moving Back to England?
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If he leaves, sell everything within an hour. Otherwise, no biggie.
Yes - sell all of your Apple shares now - do it.
That way - all of the other spastic panic mongers will drive the price down for a brief period - I'll purchase another $100k worth at a favorable cost basis and ride them all up again
Panic Panic Panic - sell now fast.....
They should let him spend more time in UK if he wants to, move the R&D he needs there if needed.
Letting him go though? out of question.
I wonder if this question would be any different if Steve Jobs was on the helm, they seem to confuse their priorities.
Letting him go though? out of question.
I wonder if this question would be any different if Steve Jobs was on the helm, they seem to confuse their priorities.
Don't laugh - remember the Scully years? (Macs that looked like business machines...
and we watch Apple stock tank even further starting tomorrow...
That was just the industry at the time. Apple, even in the early 1980's, pre Scully, was trying to make "business" computers. (i.e. Apple Lisa, Apple ///)
+1 ... sometimes when corporations like Apple grow to this size ... certain people can hold the company back.
Let the new talent rise
Are you guys trying to compare sports, or automobile designers, to Jonathan Ive's importance to Apple.
I don't care what you say, but without Ive, Apple would not be where they are today. Period. He's as irreplaceable as Steve Jobs. You can try to find others to "think" like him or to have similar design principles, but they will NEVER be "him." He has a great team there, no doubt, and I'm sure they've learned much of Ive's philosophy, but their track will never be the same without him steering the wheel.
Apple knows this. And it would be downright devastating if they angered him enough to have him leave or resent the company. Because then he would be a free agent. Losing him would be bad enough, but losing him to another competitor would be even worse. Its not like Apple would capsize overnight, but they'd lose one of their biggest assets to another company.
Jesus, let the man enjoy life and spend time at home for a little bit. Have the rest of his design team join him in England. Or pay him more money to keep him here. I think Jony loves Apple and everything the company stands for possibly more than any other senior executive, so I doubt he'll just up and leave one day out of nowhere. I'm sure they'll both come to terms.
Also, Jony and Steve are probably the closest of friends of all the senior executives, so I think they'll figure something out.
I don't care what you say, but without Ive, Apple would not be where they are today. Period. He's as irreplaceable as Steve Jobs. You can try to find others to "think" like him or to have similar design principles, but they will NEVER be "him." He has a great team there, no doubt, and I'm sure they've learned much of Ive's philosophy, but their track will never be the same without him steering the wheel.
Apple knows this. And it would be downright devastating if they angered him enough to have him leave or resent the company. Because then he would be a free agent. Losing him would be bad enough, but losing him to another competitor would be even worse. Its not like Apple would capsize overnight, but they'd lose one of their biggest assets to another company.
Jesus, let the man enjoy life and spend time at home for a little bit. Have the rest of his design team join him in England. Or pay him more money to keep him here. I think Jony loves Apple and everything the company stands for possibly more than any other senior executive, so I doubt he'll just up and leave one day out of nowhere. I'm sure they'll both come to terms.
Also, Jony and Steve are probably the closest of friends of all the senior executives, so I think they'll figure something out.
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Funded by Apple in the US
Made in China
Has a catch to it...
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You've gotta do things in life that make you happy, and if going back to the UK is what Ive needs right now, then that's what he should do. He'll always be able to find work.
You've gotta do things in life that make you happy, and if going back to the UK is what Ive needs right now, then that's what he should do. He'll always be able to find work.
a shallow comment
You've obviously never arranged tele-conferences for a team that's in Reading, DC, Salt Lake City, Silicon Valley, Sydney, Hong Kong and Bangalore. You have to rotate the times, since whatever hour you choose someone should be at home with family or asleep.
You've obviously never arranged tele-conferences for a team that's in Reading, DC, Salt Lake City, Silicon Valley, Sydney, Hong Kong and Bangalore. You have to rotate the times, since whatever hour you choose someone should be at home with family or asleep.
HE has created most likely what you use to make calls, type on, listen to music on, millions and millions use HIS design every day, he is responsible for Saving Apple because HIS designs have brought Apple masses of sales.
Yeah, get rid of him, he's replacable sure
And as to the complete and utter tool of an idiot who posted complaining about where the DC converter is placed in the MB
Again, where do you get your information from? Your knee jerk reactions are not based on any facts.
Of course Ive is important, as are many Apple employees. You have no idea whose designs we are using. For all we know, some non-paid dweeb intern designed the iPhone. Ive leads a team, a very capable team.
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so let Ive be ceo. he's young enough to be with the company for a long time and they've obviously been successful with his designs, so why ruin a good thing? why the tough language from apple? that kind of posturing just gets tiring, they're not proving anything
Guys,
The head of Bang & Olufsen's design unit is a Brit and he has his own company and own design centre. Sure he goes over to Denmark, to the B&O HQ from time to time, but most of the design work is done from his own team in his UK office.
Ive could do the same thing. Simply have a design centre in the UK and head over to the States for a few days every month.
There's absolutely no way Apple would allow Ive to leave for a rival company nor lose someone of that talent.
My assumption is exactly what others have been saying, that Jobs is, sadly, on his way out and various people at Apple have jostling, internally, to take the CEO position. Tim Cook is likely to be the natural choice (as he's stood in for Jobs on numerous occasions), but others at Apple, and most likely Ive himself, believe Ive is better positioned to take company forward.
I'd bet Ive spends more time with Jobs than anyone at Apple. Ive probably has more of an insight in to Jobs' mind than anyone else.
The head of Bang & Olufsen's design unit is a Brit and he has his own company and own design centre. Sure he goes over to Denmark, to the B&O HQ from time to time, but most of the design work is done from his own team in his UK office.
Ive could do the same thing. Simply have a design centre in the UK and head over to the States for a few days every month.
There's absolutely no way Apple would allow Ive to leave for a rival company nor lose someone of that talent.
My assumption is exactly what others have been saying, that Jobs is, sadly, on his way out and various people at Apple have jostling, internally, to take the CEO position. Tim Cook is likely to be the natural choice (as he's stood in for Jobs on numerous occasions), but others at Apple, and most likely Ive himself, believe Ive is better positioned to take company forward.
I'd bet Ive spends more time with Jobs than anyone at Apple. Ive probably has more of an insight in to Jobs' mind than anyone else.
(Though I feel hestitant to comment on this article, as it's none of my business, and hasn't happened yet either way.) At any rate, it's interesting you say this. Why wouldn't they do something along those lines? Or compromise somehow. I mean, I know Apple Retail "Geniuses" who were flown to SF/Cupertino for training, who's knowledge is still lacking considerably, for instance.
Industrial secrets are highly classified by corporations. Apple more, much more, than most. Internet use to pass design data daily from London to California......not smart....unacceptable to Apple.
Also, there's an eight hour time difference between the UK and California. That would get old after a day or two.
Nope. Apple pays this guy a King's ransom. For his money, I'd sign on never to go home again!
My friends moved back from the US for the same reason. They didn't want their son to grow up as an American.
Hes a lot more valuable than Steve Jobs, I would think they would offer him anything possible to get him to stay. He was the one who saved Apple, Jobs just made the decision to allow him to save Apple while the rest of the executives thought style and trend was unimportant. Losing Ive would be like losing a founder since he basically created the modern day successful Apple.
Your the F'n idiot mate if you choose to ignore that Ive is part of this magical 'Team'
HE has created most likely what you use to make calls, type on, listen to music on, millions and millions use HIS design every day, he is responsible for Saving Apple because HIS designs have brought Apple masses of sales.
Yeah, get rid of him, he's replacable sure
And as to the complete and utter tool of an idiot who posted complaining about where the DC converter is placed in the MB
Chill Dude ... you are over-reacting
And may I add rdowns Rocks
Apple already has a decent sized presence in the UK, plus a number of retail stores.
If Jobs does bow out, for whatever reason, one thing will happen for sure: gone will be the one-man obsessed nature of the Apple design team. Perhaps Ive knows this and knows that without Jobs, Apple's culture will be very different and he's trying to take advantage of this, early on?