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I can't imagine very many opportunities to see the full resolution for most people for quite some time.

What do you mean by that?

In terms of developers integrating with the API? (Facebook have already said it will be functional before the end of the year)

Apple, have it turned OFF by default please. There's millions of ordinary non-tech-nerds who will be confused as to why they are suddenly losing iPhone space so quickly.

It's as simple to turn off as HDR. Easy to switch on and off when needed...
 
No one really cares how its being achieved. The fact is result is the same.

Wrong! The 'result' of going from New York to Los Angeles is the same via car, train or plane. The mode of transportation really matters, and you're saying it doesn't?

I really care HOW something is done. I guess that's why I'm an Apple fan. Apple is the master of taking something technical and making it easier.

For example, Living Images are NOT the same in ease-of-use. In your camera, same concept, but when you move it to a Windows PC, you need to rename the file to .mp4 to see the video portion. Who's going to do this? Very few people.

You shouldn't treat it like a video - it's not meant to be! It SHOULD work the same as on the camera, but it doesn't. This is why Apple's technologies catch on, and are more fully implemented than competitors.
 
Surely someone is going to chime in that the new processor will help with more space or maybe the new 3d touch?
 
Microsoft: I thing I already saw this thing before...

This video of HTC Zoe on the HTC One probably gives a better idea of how this will work. They are quite fun - initially they were a pain to share though (as only the dedicated player knew what to do with them) but I think they fixed that problem in later versions.

 
Wrong! The 'result' of going from New York to Los Angeles is the same via car, train or plane. The mode of transportation really matters, and you're saying it doesn't?

I really care HOW something is done. I guess that's why I'm an Apple fan. Apple is the master of taking something technical and making it easier.

For example, Living Images are NOT the same in ease-of-use. In your camera, same concept, but when you move it to a Windows PC, you need to rename the file to .mp4 to see the video portion. Who's going to do this? Very few people.

You shouldn't treat it like a video - it's not meant to be! It SHOULD work the same as on the camera, but it doesn't. This is why Apple's technologies catch on, and are more fully implemented than competitors.

Apples and oranges.
 
Anybody still dumb enough to defend 16gb base storage?
Me!! why would Apple forgo the extra 100$ of profit. As long as people are buying iPhone in record numbers, I support their decision. Just think of it as a price hike of 100$
 
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One of the novel new features coming in the iPhone 6s is the new Live Photos feature which captures an additional 3 seconds of video surrounding photos on the new iPhones. The new feature is on by default and allows you to take photos as usual. Apple describes it:Live Photos will be viewable on existing iPhones, iPads, Macs and Apple Watch devices with the latest operating systems. Apple is also opening up the API for developers to support the new format in their own apps. Facebook has already committed to supporting Live Photos in their iOS app later this year.


While few details about the new image format has been released, TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino reveals in a video that the new format will take up approximate twice the space of a normal 12MP photo. Panzarino describes that even the current iPhones start taking photos the moment the Camera app is launched, and that traditionally, only the last photo the moment the shutter is pressed is stored. The new system will simply take the surrounding photos and compress them into this new format.

Meanwhile, @DanMatte reveals that the new Live Photos format is a bundle of images based on the JPEG file format, allowing them to be easily sent as a still image to devices that don't support Live Photo. Apple's developer documents indicate that you can share the image as a regular JPEG if desired.

More details should come out as the new iPhones begin shipping on September 25th.

Article Link: Apple's Live Photos Take Up About 2x Space of Normal Images

In the fluffy pink bunny that is Appleland photographs are now "unforgettable living memories."
They have lost the ability to treat customers as adults and equals. This reeks of cynical commercial exploitation by a condescending conglomerate.
For terminally bewildered Aapplefans: they are talking down to us....again.
 
With 16 GB, my guess you'll have up to 1 4K video (5 minutes)*, 4 pano shots* and couple of Live Shot*.

* Only one, not all. :p
 
Cool...but please do not make it as GIF replacement, cos GIF animation sucks. It forces user to download whole megabytes of AN image even most of the time they don't want it.
 
Seems like no one is happy having 128GB upgrade at 64GB price... or 64GB upgrade at 32GB price.

If you think Apple is making money at 16GB... Have you wonder how much Apple lost giving double space on upgrader?
 
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Anybody still dumb enough to defend 16gb base storage?

Well, let me take a stab at it :)
I use my camera to take images and transfer them to my "local cloud" where I can look at them on a decent size screen....
In my opinion it is "Dumb" to store thousands of images on a device with a tiny screen
 
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Seems like no one is happy having 128GB upgrade at 64GB price... or 64GB upgrade at 32GB price.

If you think Apple is making money at 16GB... Have you wonder how much Apple lost giving double space on upgrader?

I know how much i lost. Anyway Apple talks a lot about doing the right thing and then we get this. Apple is just as full of **** as any other company. 32 GB still cost pennies for Apple and when you deal in tens of millions of units of course 10 cents per unit will get you millions in revenue or expenses. So what? Thats what you get when you deal with large numbers. Ultimately Apple would still be selling tens of millions of iPhones earning ridiculous profit on it.
 
What do you mean by that?

In terms of developers integrating with the API? (Facebook have already said it will be functional before the end of the year)
I mean that few people will have displays capable of showing 12 megapixel images any time soon, that's all. And especially not on Facebook (where the resolution *will* be greatly reduced of course).
 
Don't forget apple care price increase.
Even better idea since my last iPhone was the 4s. With the way plans work in Canada, I would pay an extra 2000$ over 2 year for the privilege of having an iPhone. I pay 35$ a month an got a LG g3 for free versus 500$ upfront and 85$ a month if I went for an iPhone. No phone is worth 2000$ to me. I could have paid over 1000$ upfront and got the 35$ plan but I can't justify paying that when I can get a free phone.
 
16GB wouldn't be a problem if it was a real 16GB (unless you need your entire music library all the time). In real life its more like 12GB, and this is before installing iOS, all the apps and data.
That leaves you with 5-9GB if you're lucky to storage your pics, videos, music & docs...

PS- it would be nice if we could erase build-in apps we dont need... i got 12 like these...
 
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I don't get how Apple manages to have such a loyal fan base.
Despite being consumers and thinking of what's best for ourselves, many here are literally defending Apple - a Giant Corporation, as they stand to lose chunk of additional profit off of us. o_O
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Kudus to Apple though, that's probably every corporations wet dream.
 
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so that's why they stuck with 16gb

easy: DON'T BUY A 16GB PHONE, THEN!

seriously.... it gets old hearing people complain about the 16 GB phone when it's a CHOICE to even buy it. they offer other phones! i would NEVER buy a 16GB phone. i've never bought the entry level. i know i'm an app and photo hoarder... i have always bought the largest capacity phone they offer.
 
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