I bought a NUC Devil's Canyon last year to replace my 2009 C2D mini that got too slow. I still have a 2012 i7 quad in use which I'll have to replace sooner or later. I'd prefer a mac mini, so I'm still vested in this discussion, but literally every single mini I can buy in 2017 is slower than my 2012. Awesome work there Apple.
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Apple's Mac Mini is Now Three Years Old, No Refresh Date in Sight
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I bought a NUC Devil's Canyon last year to replace my 2009 C2D mini that got too slow. I still have a 2012 i7 quad in use which I'll have to replace sooner or later. I'd prefer a mac mini, so I'm still vested in this discussion, but literally every single mini I can buy in 2017 is slower than my 2012. Awesome work there Apple.
Step 1: decide to kill the product
Step 2: don't update it for years
Step 3: watch sales fall through the floor as you charge premium prices for 3 year old hardware
Step 4: kill the product, claiming the low sales numbers show nobody wanted it
Step 5: jack up iPhone prices again
Step 6: profit!
Yes it does, and it takes me back to what was my all-time favorite phone, the iPhone 4S. Gosh what a great phone that was in its day!!!
I'm in the same boat. I don'
[doublepost=1508201835][/doublepost]I also have a 2012 Mac Mini and am patiently awaiting an improvement over the crippled 2014 model.. When Apple cannot be bothered to improve a 5-year-old technology is it any surprise that Mac shipments are down year-over-year?
I built one of those systems....with Windows on it, because I need to use it for stuff
Like many other late you’d want to upgrade it a current tech spec’d model. Yet Apple is hoping you’d have saved enough over the past 3yrs (recall fist year anniversary is counted 1yr after the product is released) for an IMac.
Damn straight!
Whee the FRAK did you come up with hat BS - Apple’s own Marketinf school?! No such dribble exists in higher education for business.
I think you are correct if you purchase all of the pieces independently, but that's not what most Mac mini customers do. A lot of folks have a Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor from legacy systems. They want to jump into the Apple Eco system and use their Mac in conjunction with an iPhone and/or iPad. The Mac mini is a good option. I purchased my 2012 Mac mini on sale for ~$500 and then added some RAM myself. The little machine has been chugging along for about 5.5 years. Also, as more people make iPad their primary device, the Mac mini is an economical complementary desktop solution.
Finally, there are some people that just do not like all in one computers. They feel vulnerable to a failure in either the screen or the computer. There is something to be said for modular replacement of system components.
Does Apple still make computers? You'd never know. I though they just made phones and headphones that they can't ship on time and chronically screw up the forecasting for so they can't fulfill demand when there actually is any.
God forbid they add a frekin hard disk drive.Touch bar and new colours on the Mac Mini with the same specs
#LighterandThinner
yep and people are buying them. Heck in the refurbished section when they list them they move pretty fast
The Macbook would like to have a word with you.
Fitting the Mini into an Apple TV form factor would be trivial at this point. With what kind of internals is another matter.
Regardless, if Apple is truly keen on training new developers all over the world, they need to be offering a Mac that everyone can afford, that also isn't three years old and crippled by an appalling 5400 rpm hard drive in the base configuration.
Apple has released products in November. A Coffee Lake Mac Mini would be huge, but ai can see them waiting for Icelake and releasing it alongside the new Apple monitor (5K?).
What I don't get is; How difficult is it to update the Mac mini? This is not cutting edge technology. It is an entry level base headless desktop computer.
Don't spend millions of product development dollars to create a sleeker and lighter form factor! It's a desktop for goodness sake! It almost never moves!
- Update the processor.
- Increase standard RAM to 8GB.
- Update the HD and allow an option for SSD (which Apple already does)
- Perhaps, replace one of the standard USB ports with an USB-C port.
Don't spend millions of product development dollars to create a sleeker and lighter form factor! It's a desktop for goodness sake! It almost never moves!
Slightly harder than not updating it and continuing to charge the same price?
The Mini is Apple's only computer I like, once it's gone so am I. Completely gone from the Apple universe that is
I wouldn't say total downgrade as they got far superior GPU's, something that many Mini users could benefit from. However over all the product like got really screwed up with no real high end solution. Beyond that I was under the impression the Mini used 27 watt SoC similar to what is used in the 13" MBP.
Basically they screwed up the product line so badly that we would have to think that it was done on purpose to piss off the user community, curtail sails which would lead to justification for a stop of production. For example the quad core machine was very popular with developers (Xcode loves cores), the current chips are only suitable for very low end development work. Effectively they lost a large number of users that really could benefit from the cores.
Personally I see the Mini as the wrong solution for many desktop user needs. What they really needed was a stripped down Mac Pro with one decent GPU and a mainstream desktop processor. Such a machine would sell by the truck load even into a worn out market. Give the entry machine a decent APU chip and you could make the GPU an option and have a $750 entry level machine worth the price.
2012 Mac Mini owner here. I bought a Samsung 1TB T3 External SSD and use it as my boot drive. The Mini screams via this set-up. The internal 1TB spinning hard drive is now used as a bootable backup using Carbon Copy Cloner. When the Mini dies, I can just disconnect the T3 and use it on my new machine, whatever that may be.
I manage 50+ users & aside from an AD and RDC Server I had to install a couple years ago, still run it all from Mac servers (a combination of MP 5,1s, Xserves, and a couple Minis). Getting harder & harder though without any clear commitment or direction from Cupertino (to say nothing of their bizarre choices of what to move to command-line-only in Server), and probably the only thing stopping me from jumping ship on the server side at this point is how much Windows BYTES (get it? heh heh) and how much I hate managing it.
At some point that won't matter as, it seems, I won't have a choice.
At some point that won't matter as, it seems, I won't have a choice.
It's embarrassing that they still have it for sale... update the damn processor or something, throw your customers a bone. Most mini models STILL have 5400 rpm HDs in them for cripes sake. Plus DDR3 and dinosaur processors; Apple must have commissioned Intel to keep making these processors or something, I surprised they still even have them available.
Only one word describes this: “Courage”
Remember that at Apple, for every “yes” there are a thousand “no”s. Recent “yes” decisions that happened while any Mac Mini update proposal got a “no”:
Remember that at Apple, for every “yes” there are a thousand “no”s. Recent “yes” decisions that happened while any Mac Mini update proposal got a “no”:
- Carpool Karaoke show
- Planet of the Apps show
- Notch on a phone
- Beats headphones updates
- Removal of headphone ports
- Steve Jobs Theater handrails carved into the wall
- Animated Emoji
- CEO getting political
- Removing MagSafe
- Touchbar
- Keep the maximum amount of RAM the same
- “Thin”
At another mac user line Apple has abandoned.
Just like it did the professional users.
Just like it did the professional users.