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I also think car designers are lazy. I picked up a 2016 Mazda6 a month ago and I do enjoy it. However, look at the rear ends of some cars and SUVs. They all look very similar. Just lazy. I don't know what's wrong with Toyota to add a big plastic open mouth at the bottom of their Corolla and Camry.

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It must be hard given the massive number of laws and safety issues. For example, lights must be at least a certain size, a certain height off the ground but no more than another height etc etc etc. It's not like tech where there aren't any laws so to speak.
 
I have one:


And as for car's.

This is a cool futuristic design:

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but is totally illegal for the road! It's a racetrack car only.

But then we have a futuristic looking Ferrari that is fully road legal:

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Modern day car design is anything but in a trough......

Have you ever driven a car like these? They're fairly hideous to drive, actually. And to use it every day would be quite awful and very impractical.
 
Wait a minute, I'm trying to figure out why so many come here just to crack wise and say stupid things... oh, wait. Seventeen. I was that age once. Some people stay that age forever.

That being said, I hope it's not all these elite sports wagons, and gold sedans. It sure would be nice to just have a little commute car that was electric, had a mapping system built in, that you started with Apple ID, was safe, nice-looking and Apple-y.
 
Well yeah I take it all with a grain of salt....especially considering the analyst it came from. But I do think there's too much smoke for there not to be fire at this point.

You should follow the car news more mate, it could be EXACTLY what they are working on, because it is one of the possible directions the car industry is going, Jaguar want this kind of tech in their cabins, and Apple have worked with Jaguar before on design.

Take a look, it's all about safety and the idea could work very well:

 
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Boom. Beauty and brawn. Every nanometer is accounted for in this remarkable work of man-made design. The materials and the way they are carefully crafted and sculpted into sensuous yet masculine lines suggests a profound level of power and boldness. Which also allows me to experience great works of art like Diablo, Mass Effect, GTA V.

I know its an opinion thing, but I would think most people would thing that is ugly. Look at the gap on between the screen and keyboard. The track pad isn't even centered(i know its for gaming, but were talking pure esthetics here). And its really thick.
 
And that's why I still have a Pontiac Solstice; one of the most refreshing and beautiful car designs a US automaker has put out in decades, especially considering the affordable pricing. It's a shame they shuttered Pontiac. They were one of the few car brands that was getting exciting.

My ride on the left, with a buddy's Thunderbird on the right (a neat design in its own right, but not for everyone, and not a particularly great car... but at least they tried something different!):
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Show me a laptop with more than one USB slot. Oh wait...

Going by this philosophy the Apple Car will only have one door, but it will be conveniently mounted underneath the car not to ruin the beautiful, beautiful curves.

All other lap tops from Apple have more then one USB port. A better analogy would be the Apple Car would have no door handles (Tesla is almost there).
 
There's a difference between a phone and a car. They serve two different purposes. Do you think Apple will introduce a flying car in a few years? I don't... Aside from that, I'm thinking that Apple's car wouldn't differ much (touch screen windows? lol) from what ever is available between now and the time Apple (if they do) releases their car.

I guess you missed the entire point of my post. Re-read it again. LOL!
 
Totally disagree, it sounds like that person needs a flip phone, why pay for a smartphone and & 30.00 a month and not take photos, use some apps, take some videos, download some songs because if you do that your almost maxed out of your 16 gb which in reality is not even 16 it's much less when you power up for the first time.

I had a 16 GB for 4 years, and took photos on vacation and special occasions, with a couple videos. It was my main email, calendar, contact and notes device. Regularly communicated with facebook, skype, whatsapp, etc. Good for youtube, online banking, listening to podcasts, streaming radio stations, light web browsing, with tonnes of map and dictionary use, having over 50 apps installed.

Basically, I couldn't imaging going back to a non-smartphone, after just a couple months of use. And really all I had to do to make 16 GB work was not store TV shows or full movies on it, and make music synch'ing choose only a couple days at a time.

I traveled around the world, and managed work, play, and many life necessities from my pocket, with whatever WiFi I could find or pay-as-you-go cellular plan I could get for a week or month at a time, all in under 16 GB.

I know others still on 16 GB iPhones, and yes it takes work, but no, a non-smartphone would not cut it at all for them either.


So when a company designs a product, does some research that shows a certain feature/size is just right for the market at that time and says so, then that company must, in perpetuity, stay with that feature or size? If they don't then they are in your opinion failing in some manner? So when market research shows them that the original feature/size is no longer what fits the market, they are not allowed to change because why, they once said the feature/size was just right? What are you a Republican or something, who runs around screaming "flip flopper" any time an opponent changes their mind? The world is a wiggly place and change is welcome.

Exactly. I found, with my old 3.5" iPhone 4, that really everything was great, except desktop-sized web sites oriented to selling tickets or complex form entry. Most anything else was fine. Until 4" phones became the norm, and apps were changed to make use of the additional space, and added more toolbars, leaving less content area for me on 3.5". Luckily, iOS 7 actually helped with that, as it gave back some noticeable content area, with toolbars and scrollbars getting smaller or disappearing when not in use. Eventually I got the iPhone 6, after making sure it could actually fit in my pockets and hand. It's so much better having a larger screen. But, it feels much less secure in my hand than others' 4" iPhones. I definitely prefer the feel of the smaller screen, but in the end held out to buy a larger one to see more content.

So, I think all their holding usability studies for 4" were right, it's just that usability turned out to be a lesser factor overall.
 
Probably been said by now, but that gorgeous Aston Martin is a DBS, not a DB9.

Also given that cars like this and the Model S exist, I have to call ******** on Newsons comments about car design being "at the bottom of a trough"
 
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I have one:

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And as for car's.

This is a cool futuristic design:

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Sorry don't see anything really special about the laptop. Trackpad is in a horribly placed. Three buttons, really. Just a busy looking design. That is one ugly looking car.
 
That vanity fair pic looks pompous. But i guess that is kinda what vanity fair pics look like.

That being said, it would be nice to see fresher designs for cars.

I say this as someone who has fully embraced the Apple ecosystem - iPhone, iPad, mini, air.

I think you were on the right track with the "pompous" line of thought.

The Toyota Echo is no super car by any stretch, but it doesn't cost as much as a super car either. It's reliable and affordable though. It doesn't even cost as much as an Aston Martin DB9 (which is really no super car, either).

I would hope that a designer with as much pedigree and stature as Jony Ive would chose a more worthy target for his ridicule. In many ways the Echo is a marvel of design - particularly when you consider that its designers priorities were to make a dependable, safe automobile that nearly anyone can afford.

Not to disparage Aston Martin, but I don't think any of their cars would fair as well as the Echo when "affordability" is high in the list of design criteria. Come to think of it, Apple's products probably wouldn't score very highly either.
 
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I'd say Tesla is doing it right.

Tesla did a damn good job on their industrial design. About the only criticism I have is the huge one panel LCD display in the center stack. I could see that split into a two screen interface without the need for displaying full road maps while driving. Also add some dedicated knobs for environmental or screen input for tactile feedback. I'm sure this configuration was one of their ID options presented in pre-production.
 
Pedestrian law ruined the modern car designs. Other than higher hood line and upright nose, I think the regulation is responsible for busy front end and bland rear design.

Actually, the EPA did a lot more to wreck the art of automotive design than any modern pedestrian laws. Tesla shipping the Model S without an EPA temper-tantrum over these battery pack they chose is a small miracle.
 
There's a difference between a phone and a car. They serve two different purposes. Do you think Apple will introduce a flying car in a few years? I don't... Aside from that, I'm thinking that Apple's car wouldn't differ much (touch screen windows? lol) from what ever is available between now and the time Apple (if they do) releases their car.

You're an expert at thinking inside the box.

"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses. ---- Henry Ford"
 
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