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Again with those cases. Square case after square case after square case. And why do we assume it's gonna be the nano. It could be a shuffle. People.

They wouldn't make the new Shuffle bigger than the previous model. And it wouldn't be a Shuffle if it had a display.

If Nano gets any cheaper they might even discontinue Shuffle.
 
i really could see the shuffle reverting back to the square-clip-button form again. when the third Gen was released, the 2nd gen still sold quite well.

If I recall Apple still sold their 2ed gen for a while too. It was even annouced at last years event that the 2ed gen will still sell. My guess is they knew many wont like the new design.

I bet it is related to Scott Pilgrim.

Please that guy sounds like a girl not to menton stars in the most crappy movies. I do wonder why no one has picked him up to play in a movie thats actully worth watching.
 
Thinking about it, the nano redesign makes more sense... Once an iPod touch gains a camera, there's no point in keeping a product so closely priced to the touch which does not include nearly as much features as an iPod touch. This past year, the iPod nano had a camera to differentiate it, but in this coming year, a lower featured iPod nano would make more sense. Anyone who wanted all the capabilities this past year's nano offered could get the iPod touch since it almost definitely will include all of the nano's features (video recording, possibly fm radio and live pause) and more (except the clickwheel).

But still sad to see the traditional nano design go away...:(
 
To all the nay-sayers about the 2.8" iPod Touch, I'll play devil's advocate:

Isn't there a possibility that it'll be a smaller screen with a resolution similar to the current iPod Touch (i.e. 480x320)? This would result in a much higher pixel density approaching that of the "Retina Display" which everybody is assuming is coming to the new 3.5" iPod Touch.

Of course, that still wouldn't change the fact that it'd be a b*tch to type on :rolleyes:
 
iLife Mystery App - HTML5 App Maker?

Surely with all the talk of HTML5 from Mr. Jobs they are pushing hard to fill the HTML WYSIWYG space? A simple, iWeb/iDVD combo should fill that gap allowing people to make rich touch capabable HTML5 apps to deploy as apps or even WebApps?
 
My money is on October for an Apple TV announcement.

Well if the idea is to redefine the AppleTV as an iOS device, it would make sense to announce it with the iPod line. Especially if they're gearing up to give us OTA/WiFi iTunes library access.

(In fact, if you look at the Apple site right now, the Apple TV is lumped in under iPods already.)

As to these little screens and little cases, I don't think it's a nano - I think we're looking at the new shuffle with a pared-down, locked iOS distribution - or perhaps a 'Shuffle Store' you can get apps from and upload via iTunes. I really doubt they'll cut back on established Nano features to fit a form factor. If anything, I forsee the Nano ending up like a smaller iPod Touch.

(Edit - although, someone mentioned above the iTouch is really a better option for not much more money. Maybe broader storage options for the iTouch and do away with the current Nano form factor? That would leave this new square shuffle as the entry level. Hmm.)

When you look at things from Apple's perspective, right now they've got a bunch of OS's running concurrently that can easily be pared down to just two - OSX for your computer, and iOS for your consumer devices. I'd be surprised if the current iPod OS survives past this event; the total lack of any work done recently with the Apple TV OS suggests that's on the way out as well. It makes perfect sense for them to consolidate and present a unified experience across their CE devices.

Along with this, I think once 4.0 hits the iPad we'll see less fragmentation amongst iOS devices - the major revisions can easily hit this hypothetical iOS range at the same time, with functionality being the only real difference (ie, you're not likely to see an app store on a 3" square touch screen, AppleTV will be remote-controlled). If they're all working from the same code base, it's not going to be difficult for developers to create apps targeting a specific functionality either (Netflix or Hulu Plus for Apple TV, Nike+ integration on a shuffle/nano, etc).

tl;dr Apple will streamline CE devices to all run iOS, differentiation will be in functionality and input methods alone.
 
Please that guy sounds like a girl not to menton stars in the most crappy movies. I do wonder why no one has picked him up to play in a movie thats actully worth watching.

The actor that played Ramona was a dude? That is wrong. That is very very wrong.

PS. the previews of the movie were bad. The movie itself was one of the best. You will hate the first part, once you get into it, it's quite good.
 
They are going to merge the Nano and the Shuffle and call it the Naffle. It'll be like a clip Shuffle with a touch screen, no wifi, camera or 3G. Simple and cheap for the kids, grannies, running etc. Everyone else will buy an itouch or iphone if they want to connect to the web, play games etc (although the Naffle will have limited games/apps pre-loaded).
 
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Well if the idea is to redefine the AppleTV as an iOS device, it would make sense to announce it with the iPod line. Especially if they're gearing up to give us OTA/WiFi iTunes library access...

The Apple TV has had the ability to connect to your iTunes library and play content from it for quite some time. The question is, can it connect to a network hard drive not connected to a computer?

I am hoping the answer is "Yes."
 
The Apple TV has had the ability to connect to your iTunes library and play content from it for quite some time. The question is, can it connect to a network hard drive not connected to a computer?

I am hoping the answer is "Yes."

You're right, and I should have been clearer :)

I would be very surprised if an iOS-driven Apple TV remains the only device to at a minimum stream your content over your home network, since all the backend stuff has already been done at that point. WiFi sync n' stream to your iPhone/iPad/iWhatever would be easy.

The next step would be Time Capsule/NAS streamed content to whatever device from wherever you are. Even to notebooks, which would be awesome. The only real roadblock there would be carriers and content producers, both of which Apple has proven they will negotiate hard with in the past.

I hope the answer is "Yes" as well.
 
Ilife

Creating your own apps would be cool, but can't that be a download from apple? iLife should be apps we all use, don't get me wrong it's a cool idea but from a normal consumer POV, from newbies to your simple computer buyer I think it's not a "great idea". iLife is supposed to be simple and user friendly. Again I don't see that as a selling point. Now for me and many of you I see how it would be cool, though to be honest we all know it would be dumbed down, so I would expect a really cool app designer, unless they really make it awesome like GarageBand, where people can just play around or take it to another level. Hopefully the new App is something that can really do some cool sttuff.
 
I've been banging on the iPod touch "mini" concept for the last few weeks now - although I think it will come with a 3" or more screen with most of the miniturisation coming from the reduction in bezel size and thickness.

Prediction:

3cm x 3 cm device is a merging of the the shuffle and nano lines. Available in 4gb model.

Ipod touch with retina, gyro, hd camera and optional 3G model, avaiable at 32 & 64 GB, with a 128 GB available at a later date.

iPod touch "mini" replaces the low end iPod touch 8GB model, wifi only, smaller form factor with same res screen as current iPod, 8gb & 16gb models, lower res camera. Possible move to the back/side for the home button or reshaping of the home button to a rectangle or raised dimple to allow for an almost all screen front of device.

One more thing is appleTV update as rumored, be able to be controlled with traditional apple style remote, but more features available when being controlled by another iOS device (games being the prime addition with iPods/ ipads/iPhones being the controllers)

Bring on Wednesday!
 
I still think the rumored iPod Nano is an
iPod Shuffle, (a swipe to shuffle), is the iPod Nano really going to lose it's camera, mic, radio! The screen is to small to watch movies

THE MYSTERY ILIFE THING IS DEFINITELY AN IPHONE/IPAD APP MAKER (iApp)!!!
 
I'd be happy with a 4.3" touch. The EVO has one big ass screen and I'm pretty fond of it my self. But I do agree theres no need for a 2.8" touch unless its the nano and has no wifi and such, other wise there would be too many ipod touch/ipad like devices around that all serve the same purpose.

The cases are for the shuffle and I'll laugh if the new shuffle colors are those same colors.


Touch

  • A4 chip
  • 512MB of ram
  • Retna display
  • possible 3G option (50/50 on this)
  • Gyroscope
  • HD radio with tagging
  • Back and front camera.Both 3.2 mp. No flash (Flash will come next year)
  • iphone like design, but with a sliver backing like the ipad. Wifi antenna eirther on the side or better yet on the apple logo (meaning good bye to the sliver coating!)
  • Wifi music sharing. (Share music purchased at the itunes store over wifi with a tap or even a bump)
  • 16GB 3rd gen $99
  • 32GB -$199
  • 64GB - $299
  • Possible 128GB for $399
  • If 3G does come true, expect to add on additional $130
  • iOS 4.1
Shuffle

  • Screen
  • Striped down and tweaked iOS to fir the small screen
  • no wifi
  • Tacktile screen (press the screen. Like the BB storm)
  • 8GB - $99
  • 16GB -$149
  • Red, Blue, Green, black, sliver and pink
Nano

  • 2.5" touch screen
  • iOS stripped down with no wifi
  • 16GB - 149
  • 32GB - 199
  • 64GB - 299
  • Same colors as last year
Classic

  • 64Gb Flash -$299
  • 128GB flash - $399
  • iPad like design
  • click Wheel
  • 3" Screen
  • iOS tweaked (no wifi)
itunes

  • Streaming
  • iTunes store moves to the web
  • iTunes X - Rewriten and full 64bit.
  • iTunes on OSX will intergrate much like Quicktime X did.
  • iTunes X on Windows will intergrate with the new Quicktime X that also will be annouced.
  • All ipods can now wirelessly sync to the new itunes.
Apple TV

  • What was said in the rumors
  • Will be shown, but wont launch till January (Give time for developers to make apps to fit large screen TVs)
  • $99 for base model. $199 for a 64GB of storage.
iOs 4.1

  • bug fixes
  • iPad in october

I don't think the new and improved iPod touch will sell for any less than $199 - and that's only if they have a 16gb model. infact I think it will be 32gb at $279 at a minimum. New 8gb & 16gb lower specced iPod touch "mini" at $149 & $199 will fill the gap.
 
They wouldn't make the new Shuffle bigger than the previous model. And it wouldn't be a Shuffle if it had a display.

If Nano gets any cheaper they might even discontinue Shuffle.

A touchscreen iPod for $50?? And why would they discontinue the current Shuffle, which is perfectly formed for its purpose?
 
There are signs that an apple tv is coming. I saw a dish commercial about how people would like to see shows whenever they want and not wanting channels they never will watch. Plus, Xbox live is raising membership fee by $10 per year. Could Microsoft making a deal with Hulu or what? Nintendo is lowering prices on its mobile devices. Well, they are responding to the new iPod there. I suspect the apple tv will come out before the end of the year. maybe sept. 1.

WOULD BE NICE NANO iPad 4 inch, Mini-iPad 7 in, iPad Pro 13".
 
To all the nay-sayers about the 2.8" iPod Touch, I'll play devil's advocate:

Isn't there a possibility that it'll be a smaller screen with a resolution similar to the current iPod Touch (i.e. 480x320)? This would result in a much higher pixel density approaching that of the "Retina Display" which everybody is assuming is coming to the new 3.5" iPod Touch.

Of course, that still wouldn't change the fact that it'd be a b*tch to type on :rolleyes:

Well if the they go for 2.8inch the smallest control elements of the GUI will move from 7mm square to 5mm square still pretty workable if they with the improvements in the touch detection since the first model. 2.8inch is about the smallest they could go and it would shrink the size just enough that is fit in even a snug pocket. Add a video camera and it makes a fine nano replacement.

Then the 3.5 inch model can be a little thicker to have the same cameras as the IPhone and more more for battery and flash chips to do classic range capacity on the cheap.
 
I'd be happy with a 4.3" touch. The EVO has one big ass screen and I'm pretty fond of it my self. But I do agree theres no need for a 2.8" touch unless its the nano and has no wifi and such, other wise there would be too many ipod touch/ipad like devices around that all serve the same purpose.

The cases are for the shuffle and I'll laugh if the new shuffle colors are those same colors.


Touch

  • A4 chip
  • 512MB of ram
  • Retna display
  • possible 3G option (50/50 on this)
  • Gyroscope
  • HD radio with tagging
  • Back and front camera.Both 3.2 mp. No flash (Flash will come next year)
  • iphone like design, but with a sliver backing like the ipad. Wifi antenna eirther on the side or better yet on the apple logo (meaning good bye to the sliver coating!)
  • Wifi music sharing. (Share music purchased at the itunes store over wifi with a tap or even a bump)
  • 16GB 3rd gen $99
  • 32GB -$199
  • 64GB - $299
  • Possible 128GB for $399
  • If 3G does come true, expect to add on additional $130
  • iOS 4.1
Shuffle

  • Screen
  • Striped down and tweaked iOS to fir the small screen
  • no wifi
  • Tacktile screen (press the screen. Like the BB storm)
  • 8GB - $99
  • 16GB -$149
  • Red, Blue, Green, black, sliver and pink
Nano

  • 2.5" touch screen
  • iOS stripped down with no wifi
  • 16GB - 149
  • 32GB - 199
  • 64GB - 299
  • Same colors as last year
Classic

  • 64Gb Flash -$299
  • 128GB flash - $399
  • iPad like design
  • click Wheel
  • 3" Screen
  • iOS tweaked (no wifi)
itunes

  • Streaming
  • iTunes store moves to the web
  • iTunes X - Rewriten and full 64bit.
  • iTunes on OSX will intergrate much like Quicktime X did.
  • iTunes X on Windows will intergrate with the new Quicktime X that also will be annouced.
  • All ipods can now wirelessly sync to the new itunes.
Apple TV

  • What was said in the rumors
  • Will be shown, but wont launch till January (Give time for developers to make apps to fit large screen TVs)
  • $99 for base model. $199 for a 64GB of storage.
iOs 4.1

  • bug fixes
  • iPad in october

How ALL ipods would sync wirelessy if you suggest the nano, the shuffle and the classic has no wifi?
 
I'd be happy with a 4.3" touch. The EVO has one big ass screen and I'm pretty fond of it my self. But I do agree theres no need for a 2.8" touch unless its the nano and has no wifi and such, other wise there would be too many ipod touch/ipad like devices around that all serve the same purpose.

The cases are for the shuffle and I'll laugh if the new shuffle colors are those same colors.


Touch

  • A4 chip
  • 512MB of ram
  • Retna display
  • possible 3G option (50/50 on this)
  • Gyroscope
  • HD radio with tagging
  • Back and front camera.Both 3.2 mp. No flash (Flash will come next year)
  • iphone like design, but with a sliver backing like the ipad. Wifi antenna eirther on the side or better yet on the apple logo (meaning good bye to the sliver coating!)
  • Wifi music sharing. (Share music purchased at the itunes store over wifi with a tap or even a bump)
  • 16GB 3rd gen $99
  • 32GB -$199
  • 64GB - $299
  • Possible 128GB for $399
  • If 3G does come true, expect to add on additional $130
  • iOS 4.1
Shuffle

Those ipod touch prices are not realistic at all. The most unrealistic one is $99 for an 16GB ipod touch. I'd say thy decrease the price to maybe $179 or so.

My guesses:

  • 16GB 3rd gen $179
  • 32GB -$279
  • 64GB - $379

No 128GB ipod touch since it would be too expensive. If you haven't noticed .. flash memory prices have not come down since last year.
 

Completely off topic, but wrong. Cera funnily enough played Scott Pilgrim. Ramona was played by Mary Elizabeth Winstead, who is most definitely, female. And I've liked all of Edgar Wrights films to date, including Pilgrim.

Back on topic!

I don't need a new iPod. I've got an iPhone 4, a 3rd Gen Shuffle (which was an impulse purchase on release and see no use) and an iPad.

But I'm massively intrigued by the potential for a square form factor touch screen Shuffle/nano.... and will probably buy it as well as the new Apple TV - if it actually lives up to expectations. I'll justify (once again!) the shuffle/nano as a gym friendly iPod, especially as it'll have actual controls and not need an inline remote. I've yet to find some good workout headphones which have an inline remote.

iPad iOS upgrade news would be really welcome too.
 
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